Whatever you do do not vote this man for president.

a reply to: Chadwickus

guess then, if you've looked over his history, that you don't mind his racism (the apple doesn't fall from the tree), his disdain for aiding the disabled and sick and that America is and should be

I've looked into those allegations found them to be unfounded. But if you could supply me some links I might change my mind on that position.

The guy is also a hypocrite, wants to end the war on drugs, but also supported a republican bill to crack down on states that had legalised marijuana.

If that's your opinion that shows your inexperience and political events. There are many motivations behind a vote on a bill including compromise, favors and positioning.

Yet this hypocrite as your calling him over marijuana has also made that part of his platform. Here's something you might like to know about him, I first heard of him when he was attending NORMAL rallies in Kentucky. So despite his lifelong position he makes one vote you don't agree with and you call him a hypocrite?

He stated that the Baltimore riots were due to a lack of fathers and a lack of morals (rather racist),

I hardly see that statement as racist. I see it is an actual presentation of facts despite how uncomfortable the subject matter is. ( in case you didn't know that's called being honest in your opinion)

yet his son crashed his car while drunk not long before the riots, it's also the third time he's been arrested

I see you graduated all the way to the last vestige of political mudslinging. " attacked the man's family if you need to, in order to attack the man". Shame on you for that.

a reply to: Ultralight The US did kill a prominent ISIS leader. I believe it. Though I also believe we are losing control, or have lost control of a situation...we probably created.

originally posted by: introvert
Hard to believe the man when we have become used to politicians saying one thing to get elected and never following through.

Obama promised to end the wars in the Middle East. How'd that work out for us?

I second that.

Anyone other than the scumbag Hillary

a reply to: schuyler

No I was Being sarcastic, I thought you caught that?

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Greathouse

So far, only Paul, Sanders and Johnson have stated that they would get rid of the Patriot Act.

Sanders is a socialist.
Johnson a libertarian.
And Paul a republican, who flip-flops on issues like drones and the Fed.

I think we're pretty much screwed.

Of that group, I still like Sanders the most. I'm not scared of the socialism stigma. I don't know Johnson and neither does anyone else, so he's out. Paul would seem like the ideal candidate but he does waffle on some of those issues like drones and the fed and a few others. Like is he really for smaller government or isn't he or what?

I think Paul will get destroyed in the primaries by Bush and his cronies. They'll make him look like a lunatic...I think Sanders will make it out as long as he can debate. I have never seen him debate. How does he come across?

a reply to: Greathouse

No one would consider him if it wasn't for who he is related to. He is not his father and I don't believe him. He abandoned his father and I can't respect him for that.

Some will say he did it to play the game, but I don't want someone who plays games. I want someone who sticks to their gns and shows some loyalty. That may be a pipe dream for candidates, but I can't imagine ever voting for someone who did what he did when he turned on his pops. That IMO is unforgivable.

originally posted by: lithographyman
Anyone other than the scumbag Hillary

Are you kidding me? Then elect me.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Greathouse

I guess then, if you've looked over his history, that you don't mind his racism (the apple doesn't fall from the tree), his disdain for aiding the disabled and sick and that America is and should be a Christian nation?

The guy is also a hypocrite, wants to end the war on drugs, but also supported a republican bill to crack down on states that had legalised marijuana.

He stated that the Baltimore riots were due to a lack of fathers and a lack of morals (rather racist), yet his son crashed his car while drunk not long before the riots, it's also the third time he's been arrested for drunk driving.

Top guy this Rand Paul

You are going to go after what his son did? Really now. Stay on point.

I don;t like what he said about the riots. Nor what he has said about mariajuana. But...his son??????

Throw your hat in the ring then……..a reply to: reldra

a reply to: Sremmos80


Okay who's what politicians promises do you believe?

a reply to: reldra

To be fair that was only one point in that little mini rant. That one comment doesn't discredit the rest.

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: introvert


For this man I've been over my judgment. I know it doesn't flow with the same old taglines repeated in every political thread for attention. But I've actually looked into his history he keeps his word and carries the same political message from his beginnings." Less taxes, smaller government" the first time he took the position was in 1992 and it hasn't changed yet.

But how would most the people that commented so far know that. They are disillusioned people who have completely given up and assume every person acts exactly the same.

He is very appealing to some people and he has a few positions that I can agree with.

That being said, I would be willing to bet that most people on this site have become very suspicious and less-likely to believe a politician will keep their word once elected president. Regardless of their record to date.

If you like him, get out there and vote for the guy. Me, I'll wait to see what options I have before I commit.

originally posted by: lithographyman
Throw your hat in the ring then……..a reply to: reldra

I wouldn't. I can find Yemen, with a well-marked atlas, but I will tell you I have no idea who the leader of the country is. That might be a difference between me and Sarah. I am well educated. But I know my limitations. I cannot be the President. lol

a reply to: Greathouse

I'll answer your questions when you start answering mine without asking a question in return.

Do you really think he could pass such an EO?

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Greathouse

I guess then, if you've looked over his history, that you don't mind his racism (the apple doesn't fall from the tree), his disdain for aiding the disabled and sick and that America is and should be a Christian nation?

The guy is also a hypocrite, wants to end the war on drugs, but also supported a republican bill to crack down on states that had legalised marijuana.

He stated that the Baltimore riots were due to a lack of fathers and a lack of morals (rather racist), yet his son crashed his car while drunk not long before the riots, it's also the third time he's been arrested for drunk driving.

Top guy this Rand Paul

You are going to go after what his son did? Really now. Stay on point.

I don;t like what he said about the riots. Nor what he has said about mariajuana. But...his son??????

IMO bringing up the actions of his son is relevant since Paul made a statement about other people's fathers or lack of. He opened himself up to criticism by saying what he said.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: reldra

To be fair that was only one point in that little mini rant. That one comment doesn't discredit the rest.

That should not be in any rant, mini, small or large.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Greathouse

I guess then, if you've looked over his history, that you don't mind his racism (the apple doesn't fall from the tree), his disdain for aiding the disabled and sick and that America is and should be a Christian nation?

The guy is also a hypocrite, wants to end the war on drugs, but also supported a republican bill to crack down on states that had legalised marijuana.

He stated that the Baltimore riots were due to a lack of fathers and a lack of morals (rather racist), yet his son crashed his car while drunk not long before the riots, it's also the third time he's been arrested for drunk driving.

Top guy this Rand Paul

You are going to go after what his son did? Really now. Stay on point.

I don;t like what he said about the riots. Nor what he has said about mariajuana. But...his son??????

IMO bringing up the actions of his son is relevant since Paul made a statement about other people's fathers or lack of. He opened himself up to criticism by saying what he said.

Sorta. Maybe once. But if he runs for president, and is ion the general election, his kids behavior should be left out.

It appears he is against the Fast Track of the TPP but is all for the TPP based on his history.
That is enough for me to write him off

thediplomat.com...

Rand Paul to Obama: Finish TPP Trade Deal
“Instead of just talking about a so-called ‘pivot to Asia,’ the Obama administration should prioritize negotiating the” TPP.

Paul views increased trade as essential to reviving sluggish economic growth. The senator commended Obama’s predecessor on promoting trade, pointing out that the George W. Bush administration brokered 14 new free trade agreements during its eight years in office, and negotiated three others that were eventually ratified during the Obama administration. By contrast, Senator Paul noted, that Obama hasn’t successfully negotiated a single new agreement since taking office.

“Instead of just talking about a so-called ‘pivot to Asia,’ the Obama administration should prioritize negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership by year’s end,” Paul said during the speech.

a reply to: reldra

I can give you my opinion as I have done so in many threats. I followed the man looked into his history and I trust him. I have seen his core principles many of which his campaign is now based on. As unchanging since he entered politics.

Normally when I make this statement someone brings up a specific vote as an example of what he's done wrong. No one has bothered to look into his agenda. By all means I do not ask anyone to take my advice on this I am just giving my opinion.

But I would ask anyone before they discount him because of mainstream media BS, to look into him thereself before they form a opinion.