Why are Asians discriminated against in SAT scores?

a reply to: infolurker

You quote the guy that fought for the equal rights during the time of our society that is the very reason we needed, might even still need, AA.

That makes so much sense...

Guess we just expected people to drop their believes that they held for decades right?

originally posted by: grandmakdw
For about 4 years (2001-2008) I was a premed advisor at a prestigous school.
What I learned and told my students was the truth about getting into medical school.
Asians had to have the highest MCAT scores and GPA (4.0-3.9) to get in
Whites had to have the second highest MCAT and GPA (3.7 or higher)
Hispanics the third highest GPA (3.2 or higher)
Blacks could get in with a GPA (3.0 and even in one case 2.7)

This is nothing new.
Discrimination against Asians is real.

The only group not discriminated against are the ones always screaming it....blacks.

Must be nice.

All I got at birth was this "white privilege" thing.

It has never helped me at all, but at least I'm white I guess?

How does that even work?

a reply to: johnwick

It doesn't give them 'bonus' points

That is what is being said in the article, like literally adding points.

That is not the case.


I don't think you are a raciest, I think you hold some strong views. That is all I said.

DP

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: kcgads

Simple,

Success is "penalized" in America.

There is no such thing as equality, especially when we have the Democratic Party obsessed with race.

Regardless of your character or achievement, you must be penalized due to your skin color or ethnic background.

This is their idea of Equality.... Not Equal Opportunity, Equal Results and those results will be driven by bringing everyone down to the least common denominator.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. - Martin Luther King Jr.

As another poster pointed out, it is blatant Racism but when originated from the left, it isn't Racism, it is just "fairness".

Quoted for accuracy!!!

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: johnwick

It doesn't give them 'bonus' points

That is what is being said in the article, like literally adding points.

That is not the case.


I don't think you are a raciest, I think you hold some strong views. That is all I said.

It does advantage them, as if they scored 230 points higher on the sat.

It flat out says that.

You can read right?

Is that not what it says?

For example, a white kid an Asian kid and a black kid all apply.

All scored 1500 on the sat.

To the review board, it looks as though the Asian scored 1450 the white scored 1500 and the black scored 1730.

Who are you gonna pick?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
DP

Lol you said "DP".

Sorry offtopic but funny none the less.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: infolurker

You quote the guy that fought for the equal rights during the time of our society that is the very reason we needed, might even still need, AA.

That makes so much sense...

Guess we just expected people to drop their believes that they held for decades right?

I quoted that the Civil Rights push was for equal rights, not to judged by the color of someones skin but by their individual character.

What the left is doing is exactly the opposite. How about addressing the rest.

Do you agree with blatant racism and a "different finish line" for people based off of their skin color or ethnicity? (sounds pretty much against equal opportunity and quite racist if you do)

Do you agree that setting higher standards for someone to get admittance based off their skin color or ethnicity is truly the definition of racism? (Yes)


The Democratic Party cannot see "people" as equals. They must classify everyone and try to balance results instead of opportunity on a equal footing for all.

a reply to: johnwick

No it is that it could be correlated to that but that they don't actually get a bonus.

Can you read that it clearly says that people not accepted based on SAT score alone?

Also in your example you don't say if any of them are athlete or legacy, both of which would get said 'bonus'.

Context.

a reply to: infolurker

I believe that it was and could still be needed to combat the very real institutionalized racism that our country sponsored for decades.

What I will agree with is that it is not benefiting the Asain american community apparently but yet that has somehow turned into an issue with african americans.

And no I do not think AA is racist at all.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: infolurker

You quote the guy that fought for the equal rights during the time of our society that is the very reason we needed, might even still need, AA.

That makes so much sense...

Guess we just expected people to drop their believes that they held for decades right?

I quoted that the Civil Rights push was for equal rights, not to judged by the color of someones skin but by their individual character.

What the left is doing is exactly the opposite. How about addressing the rest.

Do you agree with blatant racism and a "different finish line" for people based off of their skin color or ethnicity? (sounds pretty much against equal opportunity and quite racist if you do)

Do you agree that setting higher standards for someone to get admittance based off their skin color or ethnicity is truly the definition of racism? (Yes)

Cmon, have the conversation. You know it is but will try anything not to admit it.

I agree here.

Let's have this conversation.

If we are truly equal, why different standards?

It isn't the right pushing this.

Is is solely the left.

Perhaps they still after all these years are the same racists they always were?

The right is the side that was always for actual equality.

The left always opposed it.

Now they try to act like different measures are equal, because being the racists they are.

They unlike the right, don't think blacks are equal, thus can compete in an equal world.

And with those two replies I am unsubscribing.

Good day to you both.

Take the win if that helps

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: johnwick

No it is that it could be correlated to that but that they don't actually get a bonus.

Can you read that it clearly says that people not accepted based on SAT score alone?

Also in your example you don't say if any of them are athlete or legacy, both of which would get said 'bonus'.

Context.

Both bonuses you now admit to, are smaller than the being black bonus you keep denying.

Which is it then?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
And with those two replies I am unsubscribing.

Good day to you both.

Take the win if that helps

Because your points are nonsensical, you are going to "take you ball and go home"?

Why?

If your views are correct back them up.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: infolurker

I believe that it was and could still be needed to combat the very real institutionalized racism that our country sponsored for decades.

What I will agree with is that it is not benefiting the Asain american community apparently but yet that has somehow turned into an issue with african americans.

And no I do not think AA is racist at all.

The thread is about being penalized for being "classified" as asian and how unjust and blatantly racist it is to have different standards for people based on their skin color or ethnicity. Someone is being penalized on their own individual merit because they fall under some leftest "racial classification".

Mr. King fought against that. I find it strange that anyone would truly support blatant discrimination of achievement due to someone's skin color or ethnicity in the 21st Century.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: infolurker

I believe that it was and could still be needed to combat the very real institutionalized racism that our country sponsored for decades.

What I will agree with is that it is not benefiting the Asain american community apparently but yet that has somehow turned into an issue with african americans.

And no I do not think AA is racist at all.

The thread is about being penalized for being "classified" as asian and how unjust and blatantly racist it is to have different standards for people based on their skin color or ethnicity.

Mr. King fought against that. I find it strange that anyone would truly support blatant discrimination of achievement due to someone's skin color or ethnicity in the 21st Century.

As the lefty bs propaganda failed them, they left to less rational threads.....

Sad but true.....

a reply to: johnwick

I did notice that.

When tough questions are asked, that pretty much ends the thread or the topic is changed to avoid answering.

Last response.

I am not taking my ball and going home, I am getting out of the mud.
I have my stance, you guys have yours, why bang our heads on the wall longer?

Both bonuses you now admit to, are smaller than the being black bonus you keep denying.

I wasn't admitting to them, just placing more context into your hypothetical that you conveniently left out.

There are zero actual score bonuses going on.

So again, you all win are the almighty intellectuals and have vanquished little ole poor me!

a reply to: kcgads

It will be very interesting as the nations population of those "classified" as Asians increases if they will come out with an "Asian Privilege" to "justify" the Racist and Discriminatory policies and practices they hold so dear.

Did you ever just want to be an "American" or "Human" and be justly assessed by your own individual merit and character without some psycho babble about how you had some "unfair" advantage because your skin tone or that your ethnicity is of Asian decent and thus you must be penalized in society?

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: johnwick

I did notice that.

When tough questions are asked, that pretty much ends the thread or the topic is changed to avoid answering.

How about we have this conversation then?

I just want some honest answers here.

Who are the racists, the right for wanting actual equality, or the left, for thinking blacks can't compete equally thus they need special favor?

I mean honestly to me the left are and have always been the extremists and true racists in our culture.

The right seems to always want all races to be treated equally.

The left screams "we are all the same" while always pandering to sub groups.

How are we equal sexes and races, if women and every race but white and Asian "deserves" special representation and rules?

If we are honestly equal, why the need for any of this idiotic bs?

I don't get it.