Gravity as a magnetic force

a reply to: ParanormalGuy

There is a scientific term that describes how your two unmagnetic masses will be attracted to each other, but I can't come up with the name. (I think it starts with a "C," somethink like "Casini," if that helps with your understanding your theory.) The bodies will stick together from an exchange of atoms as I recall.

This topic is beyond me but what the OP is saying I have heard before.

Doesn't gravity not work with quantum physics where magnetism does. You can observe the power of magnetism under a microscope... not so much with gravity.
We all had to agree in order for gravity to be force, magnetism does not need anyone's approval. It's force and effects can be recorded... not so much with gravity. Doesn't all matter have charged particles.

I am no expert but something tells me that in a couple centuries we might be remembered as a bunch of idiots.

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: ParanormalGuy

There is a scientific term that describes how your two unmagnetic masses will be attracted to each other, but I can't come up with the name. (I think it starts with a "C," somethink like "Casini," if that helps with your understanding your theory.) The bodies will stick together from an exchange of atoms as I recall.

Casimir effect is what you are thinking about maybe. Not really relevant here though.

a reply to: Jonjonj

And they have to be really close (nanometres) to be even affected by it as well.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

Start here:

The fun bit begins at 00:02:47

we might be remembered as a bunch of idiots.

No doubt.

This would be a fine hypothesis if everything were made of metal, but of course, that's not the case....Next.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
This would be a fine hypothesis if everything were made of metal,.

Its not?

a reply to: ParanormalGuy

Speaking about gravity and magnets there was an Australian man who invented a machine with magnets that produced free electricity for the entire home. The magnets were set so far apart that they would turn the wheel of a self built generator which produces electricity. The machine was smaller than a washing machine. As long as gravity pushed the magnetics apart the machine continued to run. No maintenance.... no additional costs....... and one time purchase! The scientist had demonstrated it on Youtube. This was a few years ago and now I can not find the Youtube presentation or any info on this guy as if he disappeared.

His dream was to provide free electricity to the world for under $1000.00 (Australian dollars) per machine.

Since we know that in the air are also magnetic waves it is also possible to generate electricity with these magnetic waves. Many have built machines (including Tesla) in the past however each one was stopped by the governments. That is right ...... free electricity can be easily achieved inside your car garage with a magnetic wave machine.

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: ParanormalGuy

Speaking about gravity and magnets there was an Australian man who invented a machine with magnets that produced free electricity for the entire home.

And it was a scam to dupe the credulous as were all the magnetic energy machines before it, and all to come, because a magnetic field can't be used to generate energy by itself anymore than a spring.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: ParanormalGuy

Speaking about gravity and magnets there was an Australian man who invented a machine with magnets that produced free electricity for the entire home.

And it was a scam to dupe the credulous as were all the magnetic energy machines before it, and all to come, because a magnetic field can't be used to generate energy by itself anymore than a spring.

I don't think you read my post entirely. It is not magnetic energy..... it is magnets that produce electricity that is attached to a generator. The magnets are not producing the electricity ...... the built in generator does from the friction the magnets make from turning the drum....... similar to a mouse that runs inside its wheel.

few years ago reputed wind energy cos had built permanent magnet motors connected to a generator to produce upto 5 kw power.
but they never come to the market. afaik.
a reply to: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
I don't think you read my post entirely. It is not magnetic energy..... it is magnets that produce electricity that is attached to a generator. The magnets are not producing the electricity ...... the built in generator does from the friction the magnets make from turning the drum....... similar to a mouse that runs inside its wheel.

I read it. You can't use a magnet to do this. Either to turn a wheel or generate electricity directly.

Which is why you see these people vanish. Eventually their victims figure out they're being scammed.

The very best one of all of these was done by Steorn, who actually had something that was very very interesting, and had some folks scrambling behind the scenes to see if there was anything to it. We almost went to the demo.

a reply to: Bedlam

Oh, they're back alright

dispatchesfromthefuture.com...

a reply to: GetHyped

I'd have to say, if there were any way to do it, Steorn's probably onto it.

Their approach is very indirect, but it relies on something you can actually measure, and it's there. And it makes sense in a sort of just-so story way that sends physicists off in a fury of scribbling and argument.

If these start being distributed to developers, I'll hopefully have one to peek at, however briefly.

a reply to: ParanormalGuy

Sooooo.... Your whole theory is just plain magnetism and not gravity.

Example: Gravity will pull on a styrofoam cup, a magnet will not.

Here is another explanation

originally posted by: Xeven
Space causes gravity when matter clumps in it. Matter is attracted to other matter initially by many means including magnetism but it is not gravity. Once matter deforms space (bending it toward it) space becomes warped and any near by matter then falls toward the original clump.

I cannot define space for you other than possibly describe how it might work. It is like a lattice everywhere, that bends when matter clumps in it. It is this clumping and then bending of the lattice that is gravity. Your a clump on a bigger clump. No insult intended

. That bigger clump is falling toward an even bigger clump following the bent lattice that is space except the Earth has enough momentum to continue to orbit rather than fall in.

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what if its not space but the light that gets bended which would seem a lot more normal to me, the light that brings us information is the matter that gets warped depending on thru which medium it travels, if theres a lot of local matter like say a cloud in space with a certain temperature, acting on incoming light, warping or deforming it to what we are expecting.
I have also seen a magnetic lock system, which holds in place 2 magnets that atrackt AND push of keeping them in balance on a distance, this seems ewhat happens between planets... two forces working together...

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a reply to: dennisarends

Indeed space itself is nothing, it doesn't act on anything.
It's been proven in many numerous experiments that light can be bended with the use of magnets.
To claim magnetism has nothing to do with gravity, you first have to know what magnetism is. So far not many have accomplished this. For most of them magnetism is just magic.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
a reply to: dennisarends

Indeed space itself is nothing, it doesn't act on anything.
It's been proven in many numerous experiments that light can be bended with the use of magnets.

Actually, yes, space isn't flat around gravitational wells.

And no, magnets don't bend light.

The theory of relativity describes the structure of space time. Its a theory and never been verified. For those who think otherwise link the source. Wait ll link it for you.

en.wikipedia.org...


So if relativity later turns out to be wrong then indeed space will return to nothing. Telsa who was brighter Einstein and the poster above thought it was bull. . Telsa not only made his own mathematical expressions of the things he brought to the modern world; he tested and conclusively verified them as well. The Emc squred isn't that hard to derive from previous established formula expressions if you know a bit of integral calculus. People who are bedazzled by jargondy physics terms, and lack mathematical ability will fall the Space is curved fluff.