Ameritox Urine Drug Test has destroyed my doctor/patient relationship... literally.

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Their claims about the ability of the test is plainly bs!
Oh boy! I would go on a mission with this if I were you!

Its not just you!

This bs will go world wide if people like you dont PUBLICLY kick up a very noisy fuss about it.

Well I just sent a letter to the Medical Board in SC. That is a start?

Wait a second... You need care. A frickin letter is nothing. They have rules.

The reason it was $1300.00 is because you failed the 600.00 ripoff test.

Make an appointment with the Doctor whose staff did this to you.

My guess is the Doctor knows very little about your situation.

You need care while you are fighting. Right now you are a suspected Drug Dealer.

originally posted by: LeslieD
a reply to: new_here

Hi new here ....

I - like you - take Adderall and up until recently had uncontrollable HBP. I had my primary change my BP medicine from Lisinopril [I could not STAND the cough it produced] to Losarten. I also started taking 1000mg of vitamin C twice a day on top of it and it brought my BP down to a decent range. I keep track of it. 139/77 - 136/83 - 114/65 - 135/63. I've had readings of 200+/100+ in the past.

Also - like you - I do not always take the dose as stated on the bottle. That should not be a 'medical' crime. The doctor who prescribes the Adderall also recommends that I take a few days a week OFF the Adderall as it works better that way. And it does.

< 3 Now, if I could only stop smoking......

Thank you so much for the information. If I ever DO get a doctor, I will certainly discuss this with him/her.

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Their claims about the ability of the test is plainly bs!
Oh boy! I would go on a mission with this if I were you!

Its not just you!

This bs will go world wide if people like you dont PUBLICLY kick up a very noisy fuss about it.

Well I just sent a letter to the Medical Board in SC. That is a start?

Wait a second... You need care. A frickin letter is nothing. They have rules.

The reason it was $1300.00 is because you failed the 600.00 ripoff test.

Make an appointment with the Doctor whose staff did this to you.

My guess is the Doctor knows very little about your situation.

You need care while you are fighting. Right now you are a suspected Drug Dealer.

Thank you for understanding. You've hit the nail on the head on all counts.
Problem is, the staff, in the past, has NEVER let me talk to the doctor unless I had an appointment. Now they won't let me make an appointment unless it's an emergency. (And, strangely enough, their website says to call 911 in case of emergency which anybody with a brain knows anyway.) Their advise in the letter conflicts with the words on the website, or else they didn't define "emergency" in this particular situation.

Either way, I went to get a copy of the 'report' and asked to speak with the doctor and they said 'we can't let you do that.' Not... make an appt or she'll call you back, just... we can't let you do that.

And yes, I DO need a doctor. I am really feeling beat down and lost and abandoned.

A SERIOUS WTF here! I can't even imagine. I think government and insurance being in bed together will slowly make this the norm if people don't stand up for themselves and each other.
I am totally perplexed by what is going on here. You (by court order??) are forced to take certain drugs that they feel weren't high enough in your blood stream? You have high blood pressure and this med makes it worse. I's sue the phuck out of someone over this. Your doctor, the judicial system, Ameritox....sue them all. I totally against suing people/companies, but this is unacceptable...and they want you to pay $1300?!?

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: lovebeck

You are correct, not on any Opiods/Pain Meds. And no, it is not the law in SC, I just looked it up.
I found this on Ameritox's website, which explains why I was suddenly asked to pee in a cup:

*Ameritox Online ServicesSM allows you to submit requisitions and access reports around the clock via a secure web site.
*Rx Guardian AutoReminderSM automatically and randomly selects patients for monitoring based on a protocol you select, eliminating guesswork and bias.
*A comprehensive array of reports track patient and practice progress for more effective risk management programs.
*Strong relationships with leading insurers and managed care organizations ensure broad coverage for your patients.

Practice Management 'Resources'

I bolded the pertinent part. (Big Brother will see you now...) So essentially, if your doctor ever signs on with this company, you may walk in my shoes. I surely hope not. It is not a good-medicine-spot.

It makes me wonder, were any of the physicians/NP's in the office investigated in some way for over prescribing or something like that? The information would be available from SC's board of health, if there were any investigations and their outcomes. They should be, anyway.

If my doctor signed on with a company like this, I'd drop them. This Ameritox sounds like a "company" that is overly excited about flushing out patient's who are possibly diverting/abusing medications. It makes me even more suspicious since you said you live in a small town. Why on Earth would they even need a service like this??

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Their claims about the ability of the test is plainly bs!
Oh boy! I would go on a mission with this if I were you!

Its not just you!

This bs will go world wide if people like you dont PUBLICLY kick up a very noisy fuss about it.

Well I just sent a letter to the Medical Board in SC. That is a start?

Wait a second... You need care. A frickin letter is nothing. They have rules.

The reason it was $1300.00 is because you failed the 600.00 ripoff test.

Make an appointment with the Doctor whose staff did this to you.

My guess is the Doctor knows very little about your situation.

You need care while you are fighting. Right now you are a suspected Drug Dealer.

Thank you for understanding. You've hit the nail on the head on all counts.
Problem is, the staff, in the past, has NEVER let me talk to the doctor unless I had an appointment. Now they won't let me make an appointment unless it's an emergency. (And, strangely enough, their website says to call 911 in case of emergency which anybody with a brain knows anyway.) Their advise in the letter conflicts with the words on the website, or else they didn't define "emergency" in this particular situation.

Either way, I went to get a copy of the 'report' and asked to speak with the doctor and they said 'we can't let you do that.' Not... make an appt or she'll call you back, just... we can't let you do that.

And yes, I DO need a doctor. I am really feeling beat down and lost and abandoned.

The medical assistant needs to be put in her place. You HAVE A RIGHT to your medical information and a right to clear your name. This is just absurd on so many levels...Call an attorney. Maybe research other people who have sued over Ameritox's "findings" and use one of the attorneys listen in the complaints as a starting off point. Lawyers will usually speak with you, free of charge, for a consultation. If you decide to retain them, well be prepared to give them some money up front.

BUT, IMHO it is absolutely worth it, to have someone with the knowledge and the know-how to fight for you and advocate on your behalf...I bet the medical asst. would straighten right up if your attorney contacted them on your behalf. They'd definitely realize they picked the wrong person to mess with.

As far as the uncontrolled BP and Adderall goes, the best thing would be to get off the medication. I take breaks from mine, sometimes a month at a time. It sucks as all you want to do is sleep, sleep and sleep some more but after about a week, you slowly get back to baseline.

Here's a link for you...It is from a few years ago but it's worth the read:

Ameritox

a reply to: new_here

Beetroot and Garlic. will drop your BP but if you give up Dairy, in ten days you wont have to take BP medication. Its all diet and they know it.

I think they all get you in for a blood or Urine test, and look for markers to make sure you are taking their pills . A lot of people are finding that they are sicker on the pills than they were before they started taking them. Its not your fault if you have been conditioned to consume crap, as food. But that's the cause.

OP, that is just crazy. This is why people go lunatic and blow up buildings I think -- because sometimes they feel like their whole life is being annihilated by some completely unfeeling totalitarian-type 'authority' to whom they are a meaningless number. I'm so sorry you've had to go through all this -- very upsetting.

I don't go to doctors. Bullets, blades, and possibly if I am about to die of something else, I'll go to ER or the local walk-in clinic. I've always been a little type-A about avoiding the medical world, especially after reading a lot about it a few decades ago. I'm fine with supplements and most natural health approaches.

In response to Obamacare, the company plan I had for me and my teen which had a $15-30 deductible depending on the service, we all got a new offer and for me as I'm out of network it now costs 2.5x as much monthly and has a $6000 deductible. As if that's healthcare. That's like "partial disaster assistance" or something. I would have refused any coverage in my insult about it but at the time I didn't know what the fine would be for flatly refusing and maybe it would be more. I certainly won't be going now.

Ironically, after 49 years of life and almost never visiting a doc for anything ever in my adult life, I would actually like to visit one now, only because they hold the mafia lock on certain testing I'd like to do prior to planning a supplement regimen. But since everything will be totally out of my pocket; and since I know from experience they cannot give me any prices up front and will simply send me a bill that will shock me; I won't be visiting a doctor at all now. I don't know WTF that was supposed to accomplish for a single mom and her kid, but the implementation of the plan appears to have been quite the worst-case in my world... there were many crazy things that were 'tried' over the years to get stuffed via backdoor channels into medicine via kid immunizations but never got through.

Now that Ocare is in place I'm pretty sure the whole medical situation is going to continue to look more and more like that movie BRAZIL.

Sounds like a load of BS. First and foremost is like everyone else said... get a lawyer.

Not having a drug in your system, or in your case, not enough should NOT be grounds for a dismissal. They should at the very least have asked "why"? And re-tested you.

Second, if your doctor requested the drug screening, in no way, shape or form should YOU be responsible for the payment. Period.

If I were you, I would get a lawyer, find a new doctor, and sue this Ameritox place. Also sue your doctor. Refusal to see you or even discuss your situation sounds ridiculous. Especially on a first time offense (which it really wasn't even an offense). As someone else pointed out, perhaps your doctor has been investigated for something?

a reply to: new_here

Anyone who has thyroid issues, intestinal, or digestive disorders cannot be held to the same absorption factors as those who do not. People who have had Duodenal Switch surgery malabsorb everything ingested by surgical design,. Not everyone absorbs the same so how does Ameritox take this into account?

Sounds like a doctor who is trying to downsize his/her practice by turfing their patients to someone else. I bet your urine test results are an excuse, not a cause.

I wish you much success and luck in this fight!!

originally posted by: Hr2burn
A SERIOUS WTF here! I can't even imagine. I think government and insurance being in bed together will slowly make this the norm if people don't stand up for themselves and each other.
I am totally perplexed by what is going on here. You (by court order??) are forced to take certain drugs that they feel weren't high enough in your blood stream? You have high blood pressure and this med makes it worse. I's sue the phuck out of someone over this. Your doctor, the judicial system, Ameritox....sue them all. I totally against suing people/companies, but this is unacceptable...and they want you to pay $1300?!?

Well, no court order... I just got 'fired' by my doctor because the results suggest there is not enough in my system per my prescription. But it's categorically FALSE.

I just fired off an email to my state senator, who lives in the next little town over, who just HAPPENS to be on the Senate Medical Affairs Committee. That right there is some serendipity in the midst of this nightmare.

Wish me luck, people. Pray for me. However you frame it... your good vibes give me strength and hope.

a reply to: OpenMindedRealist

Destructive + SelfServing x Clueless = Dangerous.

a reply to: new_here

This may have been posted but..

meritox repeatedly lied to physicians, federal jury finds; Millennium Labs rejoices

link

BBB Review

link

a reply to: DerekJR321
This being investigated point has me wondering.

Do you have a friend that can make calls for you as an independent arbatrator? Come up with really uncomfortable questions for them and maybe even make an appointment with that persons name. The best way to do this would be to have the information a few posts above pointed out about the office staff. Check THEIR arrests for drugs too. Also dispute the bill asap. You can even dispute the drs bill with your insurance. They won't talk to you, let them explain it to an insurance company. See how they like it.

a reply to: lovebeck

Maybe research other people who have sued over Ameritox's "findings" and use one of the attorneys listen in the complaints as a starting off point.

I have googled for hours and search results involving Ameritox and lawsuit return page after page of hits about Ameritox vs. Millinnium Labs (a similar evil company.) Even when I do the -Millennium, the hits still come back to those same links.

I posted in "Medical Conspiracies" for a good reason, it seems.

originally posted by: lovebeck
Here's a link for you...It is from a few years ago but it's worth the read:

Ameritox

Thank you, I actually came across that link in my hours of research. I wish it had a link that said, "If you have been wrongly denied medical care due to this bogus, greedy company, we can help you."

Sadly, I did not see anything like that.

a reply to: anonentity

Beetroot and Garlic. will drop your BP but if you give up Dairy, in ten days you wont have to take BP medication. Its all diet and they know it.

That is something to look into... thanks!

I had the same thing happen to me about a month ago. Same med. I told them I hadn't been taking it anyway and they could take their pee test and shove it up thier butt and to eff off. Had a new doctor by the end of the day. Told him every detail about what happened. He asked if I was diagnosed by a psychologist. I said yes, he said that is all he needed to know. Of course since I rarely take it, I won't deed a prescription forever. What is going on with this? They did the same thing to a friend of mines wife too. a reply to: new_here

a reply to: Ultralight

"Anyone who has thyroid issues..."

Well, I am on synthroid for low thyroid output, so add that to the factors effecting my so-called 'non-compliance.'