Restaurant to host 'White Appreciation Day'

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: johnwick people celebrate Christianity all the time 4 months of christmas, Easter there's plenty stop playing the victim card

It's 'white' they're doing it for. 'White' is a race. Christianity is a relgion. All other religions play the victim card, why not Christianity?

I would like to thank the ATS members in this thread for keeping it a civil discussion on such a hot-button topic. It could easily have spiraled down the insult drain. But, as I suspected, we ATS'rs are better than that here.
A well deserved and to all.

ON-TOPIC: IMO, if we are truly searching for equal rights and recognition for people of all colors, we need to dispense with the separation and special treatments to any one specific group. Can we celebrate the accomplishments of individuals in that group?? A wholehearted yes! But, as I see it the color of someone's skin doesn't inherently add to the accomplishment. Those that think it does, seem (to me) to belittling the individuals contribution. It is akin to saying, "for a black person, they are well spoken". That phrase always grated me the wrong way...since what did the color of their skin have to do with it at all? I grew up in the late 60's early 70's in a fully integrated public school system (no busing needed here, we all lived near the school). I've never seen skin color as a divining trait for anyone. Whether you decide (with your same color brain) to embrace the thug-life or the educated-life was done regardless of skin color. I've known those that lived in a middle-class home, with nothing to complain about sink into the thug-life, as well as those that grew up in the 'hood' learn and earn college degrees or work an honest and hard job succeed and raise a wonderful family.

The point of the thread, for me, was to open a discussion on why this man (the BBQ restaurant owner) felt he needed to do this at all. Let alone the completely uncalled-for threats to him and his family.

Clearly, we as a species are still kids fighting over turf on the playground. I long for the day we graduate into true sentience.

originally posted by: Biigs

What about simply appreciating white people for a day?

Why?

What's the point?

Why celebrate any important historical events or people together into one month based on their race?

I dont want to see a white history month, the very responses just from suggesting it are shocking.


Base anything on race and its going to be met with scrutiny in some way.

originally posted by: Biigs

I dont want to see a white history month, the very responses just from suggesting it are shocking.

There is no need for a White History Month.

They were not left out of the History Books.

So, we have race appreciation, gender appreciation, age appreciation days, what else have I forgotten? I've lost track and frankly don't care about any of them... it's just marketing anyway.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Biigs

I dont want to see a white history month, the very responses just from suggesting it are shocking.

There is no need for a White History Month.

They were not left out of the History Books.

Exactly, people seem to just ignore why we have history remembered in those months.

a reply to: Annee
Not all of us used history books from the 50's.

originally posted by: LoverBoy
a reply to: Annee
Not all of us used history books from the 50's.

Black History Month was officially recognized by Gerald Ford in 1976.

The Civil Rights Act was enacted in 1964 - - - the year I graduated high school.

Some seem to be under the impression this stuff didn't happen in our lifetime.

a reply to: Annee
Some seem to believe this is still 1964.

Alot has changed since 1964..

a reply to: Annee

I know the history books I used in grade school in the early 70's were not from the 50's, and did indeed contain contributions from black Americans, George Washington Carver, Crispus Attucks, Rosa Parks, Elijah McCoy, etc... just to name a few I remember from that time.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: Annee

I know the history books I used in grade school in the early 70's were not from the 50's, and did indeed contain contributions from black Americans, George Washington Carver, Crispus Attucks, Rosa Parks, Elijah McCoy, etc... just to name a few I remember from that time.

Good to know.

Progress.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: Annee

I know the history books I used in grade school in the early 70's were not from the 50's, and did indeed contain contributions from black Americans, George Washington Carver, Crispus Attucks, Rosa Parks, Elijah McCoy, etc... just to name a few I remember from that time.

As did mine from the late 50's & early 60's. I learned of those you listed along with Ida Wells, Booker T Washington, Nat Turner, Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass and more that I've forgotten. And before anything is said: I've forgotten more than my share of "white" contributors to American history also.

J

it's literally to the point of being totally ludicrous.
we have black governors, mayors, doctors, laywers, congressmen/women, vice presidents, presidents, bankers, professors, musicians / movie stars, etc (who the hell do you think is buying /listening to/ watching their stuff/ voting for them, just black people?? I DON'T F'IN THINK SO! )

screw this whole race thing.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Your intentions sound worthy but you have to understand that all these “Black, Hispanic, Native American appreciation days have a context.

And that context is oppression, exclusion and racism towards them by the main population going into centuries.


These minority appreciation days therefore aren’t really based on race but on the circumstance of oppression of those groups by the main group, European Americans.


Therefore the various “white days” because of the historical oppression of the non-whites by the whites, renders it problematic sounding and to much akin to what was years ago the de-facto reality that whites were the only people included in most of the valuable activities of the society...and ALL colored minorities were excluded.


I think a better idea would be having European days or Polish, Irish day. or Italian day.

Ther'es too much emotional, psychological and political heat in the “white day”


Perhaps when we are, as a nation, on a true even keel can there be a white appreciation day, but then if that were the case we we wont need any more " black days" Indian days, white days or any day but AMERICAN DAY

a reply to: Willtell

there are white people who are/were oppressed as well. STOP THAT DAMN RACISM.

a reply to: undo

Not on the scale of the minorities in America and not for the reasons of being white

Sure the Italians, white Jews, and Irish use to be oppressed. But they were thought of as being actually not white! If you could believe that.


What im saying is not racism just understanding context and history

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: undo

Not on the scale of the minorities in America and not for the reasons of being white

Sure the Italians, white Jews, and Irish use to be oppressed. But they were thought of as being actually not white! If you could believe that.


What im saying is not racism just understanding context and history

bull#. european royals enslaved, abused and tortured white people for a thousand years at least. and who the hell knows what happened before that. and our ancestors came here, some as slaves, some as still poor as snot, peons. and all we can talk about are one group on the whole planet being treated poorly.

a reply to: undo

You’re pissed off. Chill out…It wasn’t the minorities who started the pernicious racism in America; they were and are the victims.


Sure things have changed for the better…fine…but there is still a deep and emotional after taste of racial oppression in America. If it weren’t we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: undo

You’re pissed off. Chill out…It wasn’t the minorities who started the pernicious racism in America; they were and are the victims.


Sure things have changed for the better…fine…but there is still a deep and emotional after taste of racial oppression in America. If it weren’t we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

and it's never going to end because the democrats won't let it, and now the repubs are cashing in on it, because it's so f'in obvious that it's to the point of being out of control

THIS IS NOT SOUTH AFRICA!