Nebraska Woman - Representing God & Jesus - Files Lawsuit Against "All Homosexuals"

originally posted by: Seamrog
SNIP

originally posted by: beezzer
It'a sad and amusing that this has become a topic for discussion.

In the beginning, God made man. Or a fish walked out of the water.

Dunno which, really. I'm leaning towards God, but that's just my thing.

But it's not "the beginning" that we should be focused on.

Nor "the end" because, we all die, there isn't getting around that.

It's the middle part, the living, that most concerns me. Now we can spend our time focused on how others live, or we can focus on how we live. I certainly will fight for the freedom for everyone to express themselves how they see fit, but at the same time, I will also fight for everyone to ignore the other person (as they see fit).

If your actions, your life, your choices, your desires, your wants, your needs, are different than mine, then that should be okay, as long as it never conflicts with my life, choices, desires, wants, needs.

I just don't understand why this is so complicated or contentious.

Well said Beez.

Well just to throw a few of my own pennies into the mix. I would first like to say that the woman in question does have plenty of ground to stand on ....from a biblical perspective. And as someone mentioned earlier ...at the least the woman should be commended for having the level of conviction and the intestinal fortitude to stand up and attempt to bring about what "she" would consider righteousness. (It is more then what I can say for myself currently).

Now what I would say regarding the bible and the things written therein. One thing that has occurred to my mind is there seems to be a theme of descending righteousness and purity within the bible. Let me elaborate on that by saying...if we use the statue in the dream given in the book of Daniel as an example we can see that the purity of the materials are given in a descending fashion. ( Head of Gold, Chest of Silver, Belly of Brass.. etc ). If we carry this theme over to the other stories in the bible we can see the steady descent of humanities condition. And God ( Satan/Jesus) necessarily having to find new ways to reconcile His/Her self with us (Because of promises given).

It is for this reason that "Mercy" must triumph over "Judgement". Otherwise Judgement itself would come to its end.. standing alone with bloodied hands... having killed both foe and friend. For this reason we no longer have an immovable standard of righteousness ( within present parameters) written in stone. But now we have a law written in our hearts...that law says..Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

As far as homosexuality and the other types of orientations go....I would say that it stems from a couple of factors. One... if reincarnation is true and we can/do alternate between male/female experiences. Then it would be fairly easy to surmise that some of it stems from entanglement with prior lives. Also just the tension between the male/female energy today is generating a lot of frustration that will find various outlets. And not only that ...but I have to consider that since God is both male and female...it could be possible for it to manifest in a "blended" sort of way such as she/males... which I personally find appealing to be one not be with one...( female lesbian/male hetero, dom/sub) But it could just all be a big setup to nail my ass.

I will say that those occupying the roles of homosexuals and transgenders and the like....must be advanced souls ( or alien in nature ) in order to be subject to the ridicule and resistance against your type and still endure. I will say that I personally find myself opposed to the misuse/abuse of the fleshly body within any orientation. And certainly I cannot see how orientation would correct bad character.

And in closing I will say that if LOVE is not the motive or the product of ANY human relationship then it fails of fulfilling it's purpose. I am quite familiar with failure (right now)

a reply to: Telos

There is as much as big of a number of atheists who share the same stance on homosexuality. As there are also from other system beliefs, including pagans.

I'm not so sure there are as many outside of religion that "share the same stance" as those within it, but even if there were, that doesn't mean we ostracize all LGBT because we don't share their attraction for the same gender. Their lifestyle doesn't harm anyone, and doesn't infringe upon my right to be hetero. Why do I need to dictate their sexual orientation, when they are more than capable of mutual consent?

a reply to: Klassified

Isn't he so fun to talk to? Just ad hominems and assumptions about us. Oh! And he can use alliteration.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Klassified

Isn't he so fun to talk to? Just ad hominems and assumptions about us. Oh! And he can use alliteration.

Lol. I get the impression English is not his first language, or he has problems with reading comprehension. He certainly made a mess out of both our posts to him.
ETA: I had Telos in my mind, instead of Seamrog. Alliteration. Lol.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Telos

There is as much as big of a number of atheists who share the same stance on homosexuality. As there are also from other system beliefs, including pagans.

I'm not so sure there are as many outside of religion that "share the same stance" as those within it, but even if there were, that doesn't mean we ostracize all LGBT because we don't share their attraction for the same gender. Their lifestyle doesn't harm anyone, and doesn't infringe upon my right to be hetero. Why do I need to dictate their sexual orientation, when they are more than capable of mutual consent?

Oh, also forgot to say that there is plenty of Christians who have nothing against homosexuality. That was the point of the reply.

I’m the ambassador of Sigmund Freud and I declare this lady crazy as a bed bug!

originally posted by: beezzer
It'a sad and amusing that this has become a topic for discussion.

this has been a topic for discussion for a long time. The absurdity of this incident is comparable to the absurdity of the belief in gods. Christianity and all the other deity centered religions are full of absurdity and rely on people like her to keep the seed of doubt in others minds, not allowing others to let it go. I like your persona here but i find it a curious flaw when some one can say

In the beginning, God made man. Or a fish walked out of the water. Dunno which, really. I'm leaning towards God, but that's just my thing.

We know that fish walked out of water. There is nothing pointing towards the existance of gods and plenty of solid reasoning to pick apart any of the myths that made people believe in them in the first place.

I know you mean well, but the only thing that will really fix anything is everyone realizing the harm that comes when we allow ourselves to believe things that we know are untrue.

Comforting thoughts of an all father saving us and watching us and leaving little clues for only you to find and decipher. These thoughts are mad ravings that way too many people have. It is real madness. It is what leads people to hate things they are uncomfortable with. The bible is a perfect scape goat. People feel like they don't have to work out thier differences. The bible says i can just put them to death.

For those who don't follow the bible but still believe in god? It's the ultimate cherry pick. You can then apply any properties to it that you want.

This lady is not stupid. It takes some work to get this case as far as she has. What she is is wrong. She's just wrong. Plain and simple. The best part is that this can be fixed with a little more education.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

Sorry I prefer the King James Version...
And well weather or not any sexual acts were involved seems to be more assumed since homosexuality isn't really mentioned, just left to the imagination.
www.biblegateway.com...

I may have it confused with another story in the bible where the outcome wasn't so good.
www.biblegateway.com...

But still I seem to have a problem with a God that seems to have such a hatred for hoomosexuality between consenting adults while overlooking men giving to daughters over to mobs to be raped.
Still think there's another story in there where the daughters were found dead.

What is it with my state and lawsuits like this? A few years ago Ernie Chambers, Senator, filed a lawsuit against God for all of the pain and suffering he has caused mankind through natural disasters. People need more things to do.

a reply to: dawnstar

But still I seem to have a problem with a God that seems to have such a hatred for hoomosexuality between consenting adults while overlooking men giving to daughters over to mobs to be raped.

What else would one expect from a religion as misogynistic as the Abrahamic religions are?

a reply to: Woodcarver

*laughs*

I can't even be the voice of reason, apparently.

(Because I'm one of those "God" people)

Well, sorry, puddin'.

As long as there is a breath in my body, I will continue to believe.

But you are more than welcome to disagree.

As I will exercise my freedom to ignore you.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Woodcarver

*laughs*

I can't even be the voice of reason, apparently.

(Because I'm one of those "God" people)

Well, sorry, puddin'.

As long as there is a breath in my body, I will continue to believe.

But you are more than welcome to disagree.

As I will exercise my freedom to ignore you.

Put those fingers in your ears.

Thats what this lady did when people told her that LGBTs should have the same rights as everyone else.

Ignoring the facts puts you in her corner.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
This lady is not stupid. It takes some work to get this case as far as she has. What she is is wrong. She's just wrong. Plain and simple. The best part is that this can be fixed with a little more education.

I don't know if she's stupid or not, but she's got something missing...

For example, what are the damages against her? What is she asking for? Does she want homosexuals to stop being homosexual? To have the government declare homosexuality a "sin"? Then what? I don't get the whole point of the lawsuit.

a reply to: beezzer

You go, beez! Freedom and individuality! (And you know that doesn't mean I agree with you, I just support your stance - that's for others who may not know...)

a reply to: dawnstar

Still his daughters were not raped, nor murdered.. the angels (men in the translations) saved the family... in all the translations..

Don't know how or why you want to make this topic into an argument about Sodom and Gomorrah.. but oh well..

I really see this topic as being more about law, constitutional law that is. Not about Sodom and Gomorrah.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

and how many discoveries have I read about things that cannot be explained within the understanding of what we understand about those laws?? oh I don't know the rings of saturn comes to mind!!

so are you saying that the physiological effects that a medication one takes has nothing to do with natural laws? I would disagree since at the core of everything there is those laws at work! They are what binds elements together, as well as holds worlds within their orbits.

but to me when you speak of natural laws, you are speaking of certain energies and powers that were put into place at the beginning of time that formed the planets, gave them life, and well has the power to manage it all. There are scientific rules that if we could learn and understand that would not only explain why we are held onto the surface of this planet but also why I have a craving for whatever...we just don't know most of them.
And well we would be able to put those laws into mathematical equations.
X number of people would be too many.
Y number of women would be capable of producing z number of babies.
one women would contribute w amount of estrogen.
therefor when the number or women within the group is capable of producing more than x number of babies well each women would have to contribute enough estrogen for the population control mechanism to kick in.

if one can believe in a god and is willing to live by ancient codes of conduct that were laid down millenia ago, why is it so far fecthed to think that maybe that god had laid in place a way to ensure that man wouldn't overrun his creation and by doing so destroy everything?

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a reply to: OpinionatedB
like I said I got the stories mixed up with each other, in the other one, the daughter didn't fare as well.