MH17-Ukrainian BUK ?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

Maybe you should read up on the research of Max v.d. Werff about it...

MH17 – ‘Buk launch photo’s’ are cheats

MH17 – hardcore Dutch war propaganda

MH17 – ‘Buk plume’ burns witness

Because there is no better source for information than a Dutch Conspiracy Theorist.

Attack the source when you can't deny what is being written, you haven't changed a bit...the more you do that the more obvious it becomes to people.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

Maybe you should read up on the research of Max v.d. Werff about it...

MH17 – ‘Buk launch photo’s’ are cheats

MH17 – hardcore Dutch war propaganda

MH17 – ‘Buk plume’ burns witness

How about we take these claims in proper context considering the claims Russia has made about the incident, like showing altered photos of an military aircraft firing a missile at MH17. Or Russia claiming MH17 was diverted to the area when it wasnt. That rebels dont have buks when in reality Russian media showed images of rebels with them a few weeks before the shoot down. Or the Russian General who showed radar of a military aircraft when all other radar, including that turned over by Russia, shows NO military aircraft.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Here an article with the official US Picture...

Zerohedge...do you still think they are anything other than a parrot for Russian media, because they aren't.

You know what's really funny is the fact you say Western media is nothing but propaganda, but you have no problem when zerohedge uses them as a source...amazing.

Now I guess Mr. Borodai should have told Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok Battalion, that they didn't have the capabilities...because he says otherwise...

"They knew that this BUK existed; that the BUK was heading for Snezhnoye," he said, referring to a village 10 km (six miles) west of the crash site. "They knew that it would be deployed there, and provoked the use of this BUK by starting an air strike on a target they didn’t need, that their planes hadn’t touched for a week."

While he said he could not be certain where the BUK system operating on rebel territory at the time of the air crash had come from, he said it may have come from Russia.

And just so you might think it was one from which they got from Ukraine...

Khodakovsky said it was widely known that rebels had obtained BUKs from Ukrainian forces in the past, including three captured at a checkpoint in April and another captured near the airport in Donetsk. He said none of the BUKs captured from Ukrainian forces were operational.

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

MH17 – ‘Buk launch photo’s’ are cheats

MH17 – hardcore Dutch war propaganda

MH17 – ‘Buk plume’ burns witness

Three blogs...outstanding, now how about something that isn't as biased and have actual evidence that isn't from pro Russian backers?

At least you haven't lost your touch.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Attack the source

Pretty sure that's what happens on conspiracy sites.

Or is there now rules only for your thread?

Oh my, you guys must now be really lost for words.

One after another trying to discredit the sources and trying to deflect away from what was actual being said.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Oh my, you guys must now be really lost for words.

One after another trying to discredit the sources and trying to deflect away from what was actual being said.

Exactly the way you keep trying to discredit Bellingcat.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Oh my, you guys must now be really lost for words.

One after another trying to discredit the sources and trying to deflect away from what was actual being said.

Exactly the way you keep trying to discredit Bellingcat.

No need for me in doing that, he does a fine job himself.

Please direct your comments to one of these two ongoing threads

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks