Two shot outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: babybunnies
If you're going to have a cartoon contest where the sole subject is the Prophet Mohammed, you're going to attract the ire of the Muslim community.

The organizers KNEW that this was going to create a problem, and went ahead with it anyway.

The organizers are totally responsible for the deaths of the people who were shot. Even if they didn't pull the trigger, the security guards wouldn't have been needed had this ridiculous contest not taken place.

Or the Muslim community can piss off and not demand everyone else follow their bassackwards customs.

Muslims are no more special than anyone else.

They don't have a right to be idiots because their religion demands things.

They can get the fudge over it.

Because it is never going to stop until they stop.

You said it even better than I did.

Simple and to the point.

Appeasement never works.

a reply to: TinfoilTP
Just saw the update posted

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Well we don't know much about the shooters, but I will say I wouldn't take the odds of it not being a couple of nut jobs doing it in the name of Islam.

But should we not wait for the info before rushing to judgement?

True, we shall see.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

This proves "they" are here, among us.

Does it?
How about a false flag attack to incite anti-islamic sentiment?

Did I do it right, ATS?

This was not freedom of speech and highly disrespectful,same as Charlie Hebdo!

All those saying it was, obviously have no idea what freedom is and if they think they live in a free society they're wrong.

I wish all these 'crusaders of justice' would have directed their energies in standing up for what is actually right and protest the illegal invasions and conquests in say Iraq,Libya and the funding of ISIS in the Middle East etc.

These people have no one to blame but themselves for sitting by and allowing the killing of women and children and swallowing any BS they are fed.

Saying all this,I am suspicious of this? And I think events like this and the many protests are really trying to draw the public into confrontations with the intent of using the disorder to start Martial law,as there will be huge fall out after the New Madrid adjustment.

Stuff like this is also trying to draw support from the gullible citizens into anti-Islamic sentiment,the same as in Britain-the thing is people are clearly that stupid STILL and will buy it SMH.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP

This proves "they" are here, among us.

Does it?
How about a false flag attack to incite anti-islamic sentiment?

Did I do it right, ATS?

It may be a false flag attack to incite anti-anti Islamic sentiment.
We'll see how it all unfolds.

a reply to: skunkape23
I don't actually think it was. I don't think the Boston bombing was, either.

I don't think anyone should be surprised that this happened, either. Shocked by the violence? Yup. Just as shocking as the killing of any innocent people is. Surprised? Nope. No more surprised than by the rioting in Baltimore.

Uhh where did he get a hand grenade?

I was reading over the policy and procedures for events at the Curtis culwell Center.

The Garland Independent School District (GISD), P.O. Box 469026, Garland, TX 75046-9026, makes the Curtis Culwell Center available, on a non- discriminatory basis to GISD departments, to all groups of citizens, non-profit organizations, for-profit organizations, and visitors for the purposes and uses that are in keeping with the nature and stature of the facility. The requirements contained herein are intended to implement such policy while providing necessary safeguards to protect the facility and its furnishings.

Under security portion the event organizers have to hire five security officers with at least one with supervisory experience.



But here's the kicker that I found, if this was a trap it was well played. Not only did they temp the Bad guys. On top of that they wagged irresistible bait at them .



It was a friggin no gun zone!!!!

No food or drink, weapons, tobacco, or any other inappropriate item(s) may be brought into the facility. All bags, containers, or backpacks are subject to search. If you do not wish to have your items searched, then do not attempt to bring them into the facility. At certain events, cameras, video recorders, or other recording devices may not be allowed.

source

a reply to: Greathouse

Well played indeed, this actually gave me a chuckle.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Bigburgh

But hey it is her right to do this...

Which I get, but how hard do we need to poke the bear to prove a point.

Hate begets hate.

Oh please. How many caricatures of Jesus, Buddha etc have there been over the years? It's 2015 after all, where an "artist" can place a crucifix in a jar of urine and call it "art" without getting killed by a bunch of Christians.

a reply to: Autorico

With the comedy of errors going on in the world today. It's almost impossible not to find irony in every situation. Good thing too if not we would probably all cry ourselves to sleep at night.

a reply to: IntroduceALittleIrony

That is fine, just find it strange people think the best way to go about it is to provoke.

Wow, so hate breeds hate eh? Didn't we know this already?

BBC were reporting this as an anti-Islam event this morning. They were on the money with that.

.....And it looks like the hate filled on both sides got what they want, and a security guard got shot in the middle of it - i hope he makes a swift recovery.


Who ever was in charge of bookings at the venue really has to be some special kind of idiot to have accepted this event.

Would they accept any provocative event just because it's "free speech/expression"?

a reply to: skalla

I hope so, because when you give in they win. I suppose if Muslims attack the centre owners like those anti abortion nutjobs do at clinics we should shut all the clinics too?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: IntroduceALittleIrony

That is fine, just find it strange people think the best way to go about it is to provoke.

At least they were ready for it.

I think whether it was this or something else those two would have eventually attacked somewhere. I can't imagine it was a spur of the moment thing for them they were probably looking for a target and people that will kill over drawings will find a target at some point.

a reply to: Forensick

The whole event was just a hate-fest - just because you can do something does not mean that you should - rights still need to be treated in a responsible manner.

The piss-christ was pathetic and ridiculous, and having a draw Mo event is just so puerile and childish too.

Exercising a bit of good taste and not taking part in a troll event organised by a hater is not "giving in" and letting "them win", it's just not taking part in a juvenile event akin to drawing willies on school bags and defacing dollar bill to show how cool and rebellious you are.

It's lame.

As much as I despise Geller, you do not go and murder people for drawing a stupid picture. It is no surprise that people would rather side with an idiot like Geller abusing free speech than with some nutjobs who are prepared to go on a killing spree because they felt offended. There's a fine line between free speech and insulting someone for example calling your mum a slut. You're not going to kill the person, are you? of course not, but you will certainly feel offended.

Equal rest mass but opposite charge. Islamic extremists and Islamophobes, two hate filled groups hell bent on dividing people. They should all be locked up together and let them kill each other.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Bigburgh

But hey it is her right to do this...

Which I get, but how hard do we need to poke the bear to prove a point.

Hate begets hate.

It was an event by an ignorant nationalist group.
Doesn't in any way excuse or permit violence against them, but you have to wonder what the level of intelligence is for these people collectively.
"American Freedom Defense Initiative" - not unlike the English Defense League, or Britain First, or the BNP, or KKK, C18, or any one of the number of ignorant groups springing up based on nothing but ignorance, racism and disgusting nationalist sentiment.

originally posted by: johnwick
Or the Muslim community can piss off and not demand everyone else follow their bassackwards customs.

Generalizing much?
I have yet to meet any Muslim who has demanded anything of me. I know plenty too, not one of them demands anything of my or the society we live in.

You need to learn the difference between Muslim and radical, one does not automatically mean the other.

And lets not forget the many CHRISTIANS actually trying to create laws allowing them to abuse others in America. How can you seriously b**ch about a minority of radical Muslims and label them all as being the same, while ignoring the many hundreds of thousands of Christians who are actually trying to do what you suggest *all Muslims* are doing?

If anything, your post says more about how one religious group in the US is given permission to continue to try to force their religious doctrine onto society, while another is blamed entirely as a collective for the actions of a very tiny minority.

Why are you not blaming all of Christianity for the opinions/actions of the Westboro cult?

Why are you ignoring the Christians who are actually passing laws allowing them to abuse other Americans?

Why are you not saying anything about all the Christians who are "complicit" in hate and ignorance in your country?