It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Conspiracy of Do Nothing

page: 1
14
<<   2  3 >>

log in

join
share:
+1 more 
posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:10 PM
link   
I find it utterly amazing the reactions of the public of conspiracy theories. Us so called "crackpot, nutjob conspiracy theorists" will believe just about anything that gets thrown at us. It isn't that we are more susceptible to lies, rather most times it is because we are smarter than the rest, more observant at the very least. We are guided by a mistrust, usually of those in power, simply because we have seen and learned what most people don't even bother to recognize in the world. People commonly refer to it as the "rabbit hole", because once you start going down the path of truth, there is no going back. You see the world for what it is, a facade for the most part, and you begin to question everything, even the things that don't really need to be questioned.

But even it our "nutjob" world, there have been events that there is so much evidence to support that it no longer becomes a conspiracy "theory". The events and these labels are no longer just ideas, they are provable facts in some way or another, dirty little secrets that the public doesn't want to touch and sully their ignorant minds, and those who perpetrated the acts can laugh and continue to call us crackpots all the while.

So while we fight in a mudpit of our own creations, bickering over who is right or what is real or imaginary, there are "theories" that have so much following, so much weight and believability that it gets lost in the shuffle of further bickering.

I'm talking about the murders and assassinations, the false flags, the poisoning of people, the subliminal brainwashing, the corporatocracy of the planet, the secrets and the lies, the control of the bankers, the usurpation of rights, the destruction of economies, the unwanted wars and the acts the lead to them, the shadow governments, the real men behind the curtain, and so much more.

And all of these "theories" have so much proof and years of investigation behind them that they are not theories, they are truths. They are facts. We may be off on a few of the targets but for the most part - we got it. We nailed the bullseye on some of the biggest injustices the world has ever witnessed and we know in our hearts how terrible, corrupt, murderous, greedy, warmongering, power hungry, and genocidal these people are that perpetrate these things and what do we do?

We continue to allow them to lead our societies. Worldwide, we allow the men and women that we KNOW to be living incarnations of demon spawn to run roughshot with our lives, to create the laws that dictate us, to tell us the truths that they want us to hear, to control the value of our currencies, and to incarcerate and kill us if we refuse to give up absolute and total control of them.

This is how we live and for the life of me I cannot understand it. Why, if so many people in our "group" of conspiracy minded people know these things then why, heavens WHY have we not yet revolted against those in power and put and end to it? Why do we continue to just bicker amongst ourselves and wait patiently for the next atrocity to come that we can continue to fight about?

Am I the only person who, when realizing that the mere idea of a government being involved in the slaying of over 3,000 of its own people, has the sudden and unyielding urge to END that government?

Am I the only person who, when realizing that people are being fed poison, feels that the people doing the poisoning need to die?

Am I the only person who, when realizing that there are powerful individuals brainwashing and controlling the populace by nefarious means and control via wealth and ancient bloodlines, feels that that power needs to be destroyed?

Am I the only one who, when realizing I know these things, feels an obligation to stop these things from happening to humanity even if it costs me my life?

Please tell me I'm not the only one. SHOW ME I'm not the only one. When will people stand and say NO MORE?

Why is everyone so unmoved to do something?



To me, just talking about the issue is not enough. Just shouting that there is a problem is not enough. Just shrugging off the problem and hoping someone else takes care of it, is not enough.

This world is going to burn and its inhabitants are going to suffer: men, women, children, nature, all of it; and the people who could and should be doing something about it - do nothing.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:18 PM
link   
I don't know...

Personally I'm pretty happy where I am right now. I believe life is what you make of it.

So I don't feel any great pressure to stand up and say "no more".

There's no proof that 9/11 was an inside job. That can be debated forever, but there's no way to tell. Maybe, just maybe, the government isn't lying about all those things you mentioned. Personally, I'd need proof or at least stronger evidence before I would ever want the "second American revolution" you're a harbinger of.

Perhaps I'm just naive, perhaps not.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:22 PM
link   
a reply to: TheNewRevolution

I love your post.
I loved all the similar posts I've been seeing over the years.
And there have been quite a few.
You're absolutely right.
So were they.
And here we are.
And here we'll be in another ?? years.

It just never changes. It's always just THIS.
I wish it were different and people did make those changes happen.
But they don't.
And they won't.

It was too late a long time ago.
Now I don't know what you'd call it.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:41 PM
link   
When will people stop asking why others won't stand up and do something?

Seriously. It's a common comment across many of the forums on this site, and others.

People making comments like "enough is enough" or "the time is coming to stand up" or "the time has come to stand up" and so on. And yet the comments are repeated for years and years.

It's like a bunch of kids at the pool the first day it's open: nobody wants to be the first one to find out how cold the water is and wants somebody else to go first.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:48 PM
link   

originally posted by: gottaknow
a reply to: TheNewRevolution

I love your post.
I loved all the similar posts I've been seeing over the years.
And there have been quite a few.
You're absolutely right.
So were they.
And here we are.
And here we'll be in another ?? years.

It just never changes. It's always just THIS.
I wish it were different and people did make those changes happen.
But they don't.
And they won't.

It was too late a long time ago.
Now I don't know what you'd call it.


Usually I enjoy when I completely, 100 percent agree with a fellow ATSer.

This time all I feel is pain.

The truth really does hurt.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:51 PM
link   
a reply to: Shamrock6

I am the kid who is not afraid of that cold water and I know other who aren't as well.

But when we are a part of a community who will turn on us the moment we step out and try to actually do something, what then? It's not a wonder why people are afraid to test the waters.

We don't need one person going out and attempting to topple the system and bring down change - we need EVERYONE on board. If not everyone then at the very least a starting template of support.

But the clear idea is that there is an overwhelming lack of support for any action, because people are either comfortable or unwilling to move and make hard choices. That isn't the question.

My question is more of a moral one. How can people possibly be comfortable in their lives knowing the atrocities that are overtaking this world? I for one am chomping at the bit, trying to find every possible way to change the course.

Where is everyone else who speaks so openly about these issues?



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:56 PM
link   

originally posted by: TheNewRevolution
But even it our "nutjob" world, there have been events that there is so much evidence to support that it no longer becomes a conspiracy "theory". The events and these labels are no longer just ideas, they are provable facts in some way or another,


Care to give some exact examples?


Am I the only person who, when realizing that the mere idea of a government being involved in the slaying of over 3,000 of its own people, has the sudden and unyielding urge to END that government?


Again, how about some real evidence for that claim?



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:59 PM
link   
As long as people have money in their pockets, food on the table and a roof over their heads, they're content. Unless their backs are against the wall or their lively hood is threatened, will people make their voices heard. The majority of working class people are between a rock and a hard place. They have family and financial responsibilities. Stepping outside this bubble is a risk the majority can't take. Take some of that away, you will than have stirred up a hornets nest.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:04 PM
link   
Well, there were these people once.

These people were unhappy with the amount of gun violence in America. So what did they do?
Many attempted to regulate the ownership of guns. They tried to create and enforce the limits on gun use of the crazy nut-bang type of citizen who used them for violent and ill-legal purposes.
They were against guns all over our streets all around our schools and market places. They wondered why a "sportsman" needed a gun that would fire more bullets in a 10 seconds than a professional typist could type words in a minute.
They sought to curb the use of guns in our society.

Now they are labeled the nut-bang. They are labeled the bleeding heart. They are labeled the foolish socialist and liberal and lampooned by all the folks who do not want to give up their guns.

So much for standing up.

My point is not in defense of gun ownership or regulations. It is only to demonstrate that people do stand up and others put them back down.

Whatta ya gonna do.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:04 PM
link   
a reply to: TheNewRevolution

You only have to look at the attempts of other groups to see the results.
Every tiny motion is easily deflected, attacked or outright ignored.

It's difficult to blame the masses when they have families to take care of and lives themselves to live.
But at the same time, no one can even be bothered to mass boycott a company found to be damaging.
We're taught to be silent and cooperate and if we do fight, it's versus each other in the same topics that have been fed to us by the media for years.
But mostly be silent.

Anymore, think it's nearly impossible to find 2 people that are willing to share the exact same goals anymore.
And anytime I do see it, well, see paragraph 1.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:05 PM
link   

originally posted by: WeRpeons
As long as people have money in their pockets, food on the table and a roof over their heads, they're content. Unless their backs are against the wall or their lively hood is threatened, will people make their voices heard. The majority of working class people are between a rock and a hard place. They have family and financial responsibilities. Stepping outside this bubble is a risk the majority can't take. Take some of that away, you will than have stirred up a hornets nest.




Nothing will happen until all hope is gone.

Will it be too late?

Check history. It is not the first time a society has been on the brink.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:10 PM
link   
Revolutions need leaders. Back in the day we had The Chicago Eight, Malcolm X, MLK, and the American Indian Movement with Dennis Banks and Russell Means. Without the benefit of internet or social media, they became leaders in revolting against the Establishment. I truly feel sorry for today's youth who are looking for leadership because there seems to be a serious shortage.
My opinion on the matter is that this is a result of the "training" instrumented in most public and a lot of private school systems. Be still, stand in line quietly and your world will be rainbows and pixies. Rock the boat and you go to jail.
I was only 7 years old when JFK gave his inaugural speech but I remember it clearly because the whole family sat down and watched it. Perhaps that was my early "training"; hearing the leader of the nation say, "Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country."
But just a bit of warning before you step out to lead any revolution----you might want to take a look at what happened to the leaders of a whole mess of revolts against the Establishment. Jail, prison, poverty and death are common themes in their lives.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:29 PM
link   
a reply to: diggindirt

Even if there were leaders, would anyone follow? Would anyone step away and actually follow a cause and risk it all?

Or would they continue to do nothing in fear of what might happen?

There can be leaders out there... but is there anyone left that would follow or would they just tear that leader apart on the idea of being an individual and continued fighting amongst ourselves?



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 08:29 PM
link   
a reply to: TheNewRevolution

See? More justification for the lack of doing something.

From your response, you and people you know are more than willing to test the waters....once you know that others are going to jump in after you or with, arm in arm, all together now!

So....in essence, you're willing to act once you're assured of the outcome. And that's pretty much my point. There's always a lot of talk of "action" and it seems to always stay just that: talk.

Why are people comfortable? Same reasons people didn't take up arms during the *insert name of any country that's had one* revolution. Look at why people didn't pick a side during one revolution or another. There's your answers.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 09:07 PM
link   
What am I revolting against? I have a good job that I don't mind working hard at. Ive got a good education I don't mind paying for as it afforded me the job. I'm married to a great woman because I took my time and didn't knock up some 17 year old when I was 19. My kids are well behaved because I set that expectation early. I can go and do anything I choose in the world provided I can afford the cost. There is no "they" for me to revolt against. MY life is a direct result of my choices and effort. Those mired in the regret of THEIR choices tend to lash out at others. Which is what your proposing. You need a villain because it can't be your fault your where you are in life.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 09:14 PM
link   
a reply to: Shamrock6

I don't think anybody is justifying anything. You asked a very valid question. They're trying to give you an honest answer. I think all of us at some time, has been that one, that lead the charge. I know in my case I have learned that when you go into battle, you had better be prepared to fight alone. The only time I didnt have almost everyone end up deserting along the way, was a protest I participated in, because I just happened to be at the right place at the right time, or maybe I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, depends on how you want to look at it.

I know that the only thing I thought about when that SWAT team showed up, and I looked up at all those guns pointed at me, was that my mother was going to have to watch her daughter being killed on National TV. I had called her the day before teasing her about something stupid a professor had said in my Psychology class. I thought it was funny, but I could hear the sadness in her voice when she said, "Is this what I am paying for?" "For my daughter to go to the city and be taught that she has a lousy mother"? It took a little coaxing for her to see the humor in the whole thing. And now I was going to destroy her by having her watch me be killed on TV. I was the deserter that day.

I can't judge anyone for the what or why's that they do or don't do. I wish life was so much simpler. If not simpler, at least I wish it made sense. I know that we have made one hell of a mess, with all of our supposed intelligence, our techno marvelous world.

Everything we touch we poision, we erode, we waste. Everyone is chasing rainbows and dreams and ignoring reality. Everyone is so busy seeing the mistakes being made by others, yet are blind to their own wrongs done to others.

We can't fix this world until we learn how to see it again. We are caught up in a lie and an illusion that we enjoy too much to let go of. Until we can see again, we will continue to stumble around in this technological illusion we call life.

I don't blame you for being frustrated and angry. Many of us feel the same way. Sometimes you don't have to make any noise, but can still make a huge impact.

TPTB only care about "one" thing. You decide how you spend your money.

Stop feeding the beast.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 09:28 PM
link   
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

All valid points. Perhaps I came off harsher than I intended.

My point was simply that there's always a bunch of talk about "it's time" but nobody ever wants to be the first one out of the gate. Or, looking at history, very rarely do they want to be first out of the gate. But people will talk all day long about how willing they are if only x, y, and z would happen.

The American Revolution wasn't started by one dude. It was a group of dudes who had an idea and not much idea how well their idea was going to turn out. They didn't wait till the King said "hey it's cool" to do their thing. They worked to build support for their cause, but they didn't wait till it was a done deal to light the fire.

In this day and age, I would think it would be significantly easier to find a group of like minded dudes to do...whatever.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 10:36 PM
link   

originally posted by: TheNewRevolution
a reply to: diggindirt

Even if there were leaders, would anyone follow? Would anyone step away and actually follow a cause and risk it all?

Or would they continue to do nothing in fear of what might happen?

There can be leaders out there... but is there anyone left that would follow or would they just tear that leader apart on the idea of being an individual and continued fighting amongst ourselves?


I honestly can't answer your question because I don't know. When I look at the young ones in my family, I see people trained to do as they are told by persons in authority, never questioning.

I followed MLK, Abbie and AIM because I believed in what they said and thought we could make a difference in our world. I had the great honor and privilege of being able to meet and sit and talk with several of my heroes from that era a decade or so later. With each one I sought advice on leadership in activism. In every case they advised me to count the costs carefully. My husband and I did so and I ended up waiting until the last of kids were into college before stepping into a leadership position. Now granted that my "revolution" was a tiny, local thing but it was an amazing battle nonetheless.
edit on 23-4-2015 by diggindirt because: spelling



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 10:41 PM
link   
There is a reason that nothing will be done in the face of collapse here in America and that reason is that collapse is the natural progression of what needs to happen and what will happen next. Look at the Greeks, the Romans, The Egyptians, where are their magnificent civilizations now? They came, they saw, they went. It is the natural order of things nad America is subject to the sane constraints. Embrace the truth for it is upon you.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 11:13 PM
link   

originally posted by: In4ormant
What am I revolting against? I have a good job that I don't mind working hard at. Ive got a good education I don't mind paying for as it afforded me the job. I'm married to a great woman because I took my time and didn't knock up some 17 year old when I was 19. My kids are well behaved because I set that expectation early. I can go and do anything I choose in the world provided I can afford the cost. There is no "they" for me to revolt against. MY life is a direct result of my choices and effort. Those mired in the regret of THEIR choices tend to lash out at others. Which is what your proposing. You need a villain because it can't be your fault your where you are in life.


Because of selfish people like you there are people hurting and dieng. Because you can't see further than I.

That's their goal. They want obeying citizens that don't revolt. Give them bread and games and you can control them. My life is also great. I m on top of everything a truly free man. But I don't care about all of this if I know other people are hungry, children are dieng while some asshole is sitting on pills of money.

Stop being selfish, because if you lose everything you claim u have, what will you have? Then you will change your mind.

Sorry but people like you need to vanish and new people that are born need to evolve.




top topics



 
14
<<   2  3 >>

log in

join