Candida, the silent and ignored KILLER!!!!!

a reply to: DustbowlDebutante

Hmm, I wonder if I should ease back a bit on my probiotics. The past 2 days the die off symptoms were the most intense they have ever been, almost had me in tears I was so frustrated and discouraged. But I was also considering cutting back on some of my anti-fungals.

I've been bombarding my system with probiotics to push out any Candida for the last week or so. We'll see how it goes...

ETA: I had gastric bypass about 11 years ago, and drank heavily for the last 10 -- pretty much screwing up any "good" gut bacteria, so Candida would probably thrive. I'm always tired, low sex drive, ect, ect -- I suspect Candida. I'm taking a 15 strain, 5 billion time-release one called Hyperbotics Pro15. It got awesome reviews on Amazon.

If I notice any benefit from these, I'll get more serious and look into some BioKult or another that was used in clinical studies.

originally posted by: Imightknow
a reply to: DustbowlDebutante

Hmm, I wonder if I should ease back a bit on my probiotics. The past 2 days the die off symptoms were the most intense they have ever been, almost had me in tears I was so frustrated and discouraged. But I was also considering cutting back on some of my anti-fungals.

It might not hurt... Though, maybe try backing off the anti-fungal stuff and just let the probiotics do their job?

It just seems to me that the antifungals probably result in more die-off symptoms than the probiotics (which work more slowly and gently). Again, I'm no doctor, I just tried to listen to my body and did what I thought was best.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

glad to hear your taking probiotics, just keep in mind that if you want to kill off the candida overgrowth you MUST partake in a candida diet as well. NO SUGAR and very low carbs, just quinoa and brown rice for the most part. Tons of green leafy low carb veggies and any meats you want other then pork. It is also recommended to eat organic because the hormones in non-organic can cause disturbances when the immune system is weak; which it is when we are killing off candida overgrowth.

a reply to: Imightknow

I don't take issue with Eastern medicine as a whole. The exact circumstances to which the OP referred, does sound like a "person taking money for treating and never curing" as I believe you described western medicine. If they diagnosed you with a disease they cherry picked western medicinal facts to create and sold you something to treat it, how is that any better?

It sounds like they made up a disease to sell you a remedy, it sounds like you'll never ask them to prove you had it, or that the treatment is effective, and you'll apparently recommend the same to others despite a gross lack of study having been done on the subject. At least big pharma can utilize science to prove what they price gouge you for might be able to treat it before you pay money for it.

If you're interested, I can sell you this rock I found that'll cure bad vibe poisoning. Many have it, symptoms include general fatigue and malaise. Only costs $100 dollars...

There's a reason snake oil salesman don't go door to door anymore.

I fully understand that modern medicine has yet to fully explore and utilize many herbal remedies, but many now are creating diseases and conditions out of thin air to sell the cure, and relying on folks who don't need anything beyond anecdotal evidence for proof. Folk remedies have their place, and many gain comfort from them. But, this situation reminds me of exorcisms and faith healing. There's no information to prove it's beneficial, let alone that the condition is one with which you're afflicted and I think it's a bummer if someone throws their money away on untested bad faith medicine instead of looking into what the actual issue may be.

Now, I say this as someone who has tried a lot of remedies and seen a lot of these people. There are plenty of legitimate homeopathic treatments for conditions, but I take issue with candiadis in particular because there's no proof it exists and people are raking the cash in.

this guy could have hurt some kidsAnd paleo? Sure, eat whatever you like, but just try not to accidentally cause harm to your body. There are no regulations on what folks can tell you to do. Too many people are too bad at doing their own research and get duped by hacks.

a reply to: MensaIT3

But... But you NEED candida? It's necessary for digestion and it's part of your body's natural protection. What apple cider vinegar (with the mother) can do though is give a healthy dose of probiotics which can help any possible flora imbalance one might have.

a reply to: hearows

I appreciate this post from you, I really do. I can also agree with you that of course there are phonies, fakes and dupes. I am a former intelligence analyst in the Marines and NSA; believe me when I tell you that I can do my own research and do it quite well.

Yes, we need Candida in our bodies for digestion. But when it is overgrown it does wreak havoc on the body.

Can you agree that I know my own body better then anyone else? Most people these days are so separated from themselves and their bodies that they can barely feel what their bodies are trying to tell them.

Today is the first day that I have felt SO MUCH BETTER upon waking it's beautiful. Also, I can feel my body telling me that I am doing the right thing. This may not make sense to you and that's fine if it doesn't. I am an empath and a very HSP person. I can feel what everyone in the room that I am in is feeling and I have proved it to myself and others numerous times.


The doc that I go to who practices eastern medicine techniques fills his toolbox with indian and chinese techniques. Also get this, he was TRAINED in western medicine and went to med school in the USA. He converted about 15 years after he started his practice because he saw the differences and benefits between western and eastern and chose to start helping cure people rather then putting on band-aids by prescribing meds then receiving his quarterly kick backs. I feel blessed to have this man in my life, they are hard to find.

Probiotic supplements are going to cost you at least an arm and/or leg.

My recommendation is to embark on the educational journey of learning the process of preparing home-made vegetable fermentations. Its so delicious that I carry a mason jar around as a condiment for anything I might eat. The microbes transmute the veggies into a sour vinegar mass in which the bioavailability of nutrients goes through the roof.

Omega fatty acids
B vitamins
Trace minerals
And all the enzymes necessary for digestion in every bite.

I used to get sick more than once a year, but now that I've started fermenting vegetables and have eaten a total of about 100 pounds, I've never felt better.

My candida imbalance manifested as discolored, inflamed, and flaky skin at the sites of my lymph nodes. It is very clear how much the discoloration has receded and will be just a speck soon. All I need to do is stop drinking beer and eating chocolate and my symptoms will vanish.

I believe in the food.

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Additionally: the location itself of the microbial cultureing plays a big role. Any probiotic product, whether its cheese, kraut, or supplement, is substantially influenced by every surface contact made during the production process. Depending on the materials used, ingredients added, and production method implemented, it makes the difference between a product and something altogether special. This is a very freshly broached field of western science.

Applied and Environmental Microbiology

After my experience with vegetable fermentation at home, I have come to believe that there is tremendous benefit to the production in the very environment which you yourself shares. How? I'm none too certain, but I think about the fact that it is breathing the same air as I during the few weeks of aging.