UFOs Confront Soldiers During War, Says Ex-Air Force Intelligence Officer

a reply to: GoShredAK
I saw the big one....400 foot cigar shape.....Dallas....1999....10 am, it was on a ground track to go right over Love Field...

a reply to: Baddogma

It's a frustrating, literally alienating place to be... we (who know as best we can some reality for UFOs,) know we experienced something remarkable, but have to continually debate with the people immersed in the consensus reality narrative that says "no, you were high, stupid, insane or mistaken"... sigh.

My personal favorite is that its in the normal range of experiences. I will wait patiently for my indoctrination....

Heck, I've been three of those things at times... maybe all four!

ah, the good ol days

originally posted by: pteridine
a reply to: Scdfa I am aware of the lights over DC in 1952. None of them landed on the Whitehouse lawn in broad daylight except in a movie. My scenario is suggested as a way of telling the US population that "it was us all along and there is nothing to worry about."

Which leads me to believe there is something to worry about....

a reply to: Aquariusdude

Objects that outmaneuver there aircraft really aren't there? Wow this isn't going anywhere.I am done talking to you.

Its in the range of possibilities. They could be moving between dimensions which would be the same as not being there I suppose. That would also explain the lack of physical evidence. Some kind of imaginary hallucination misperception thing would work too I guess. Its hard to say because of the lack of physical evidence. I cant tell.

a reply to: Scdfa

Science doesn't need to be attacked brother. I am totally open to the ufo phenomenon, I don't think it's crazy, and I think ETs likely exist. Unfortunately, there isn't much evidence that they are anywhere near earth, at least as far as I can tell. Real, solid, testable evidence. Witness accounts are unreliable, that's true in any field. also, UFOs and ETs aren't the same thing. I would like nothing more than to see some real proof, but I'm not holding my breath. We'll see.

a reply to: JadeStar

Either you trust the military or you don't.

Either you trust the government or you don't.

THAT statement alone is enough for one to think you are a disinfo agent...

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Just because you have seen bright lights in the sky, doesn't mean it's a UFO.

If you don't know what those lights are, it is a UFO.

Understand the terminology.

originally posted by: coastlinekid
a reply to: JadeStar

Either you trust the military or you don't.

Either you trust the government or you don't.

THAT statement alone is enough for one to think you are a disinfo agent...

If she was around during the Salem Witch Hunt, she would have been burned at the stake....because ducks float.

originally posted by: GoShredAK
Eta: after reading some posts I realize I should add, not only on a perfectly clear day, also, sober as a bird.

birds are not always as sober as they appear. maybe you were tripping balls.

a reply to: ZetaRediculian

95% of sightings turn out to be identified so that must mean that things get misidentified pretty often.

I hear this statistic tossed around casually by people who try to deny a UFO and alien connection. And it is often just accepted without being questioned. Well, I have a few questions.

Who came up with it? Based on what lists of sightings? Most sightings go unreported, so you must mean reported sightings?

Reported to who, to the police? Most police wont take a ufo sighting, they tell you to call the airport, or local military, neither of which take ufo sightings either. So what agencies compiled the reports?

And who selected which cases were examined and identified, did one organization or agency examined ALL sightings? Or was it the combined research of various private, or military, or aviation investigative agencies and organizations that determine a sighting "solved"?

Was this an international effort? Over what period of time was this statistic compiled? Before the internet, the ability to even report a UFO sighting was severely limited, so are these statistics from the 1950?

To whose satisfaction were these sightings identified? Did the actual witnesses agree with the "official explanation"?

For example, what about the Phoenix triangle? Was that case considered "solved"? Or is it in the 5% of unsolved cases?

You watch, folks.

The closer we look at the statistic that 95% of UFO sightings are solved, the more it will prove to be unsubstantiated.

Like Mark Twain said, "There are three kinds of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics."

It's Hitler and the rest of the Nazis that escaped Germany with most of their technology at the end of WW2 and went to their super ice lair in antarctica. Hitler is still alive, using anti aging technology of course, and he rules the world behind the scenes. If not him, then some other Nazi. Everything else is a sham. With their invincible ufos they can destroy anything, hold any nation hostage, place their own people in power. And orchestrate events to make it appear everything is normal and that the Nazis were defeated.

A Nazi, after the war, said "we had help... from sources not of this world" or something like that.
Hitler said they had super weapons that would help them win the war, and that there was nothing to worry about, even towards tbe very end.
Hitlers body was never found. Kinda reminds me of Osama Bin Laden... no body.
The Nazis sacrificed Germany, pretending to lose, and won the World. They realized it it didn't matter if they lost the battle because, with their technology, they could simply control the world behind the scenes, and the public will just think "aliens" (which some are but appear to be assisting the Nazis or at least allow them to exert their will over the world.

That's why the government will not tell the truth about aliens. They cannot admit that the nazis won WW2. The Nazis themselves will not allow this truth to be told.

I believe there may be other alien factions fighting to control the world, these are aligned with the khazarian zionists who the Nazi aligned aliens are fighting against. It could be that each faction controls certain areas of the world and perhaps the Nazis do not have a complete monopoly on controlling the Earth.

After all, a lot has happened since ww2. Who knows what happened with Operation Highjump? Did they successfully destroy the Nazi base or bases? Or were they scared off by Nazi disc craft technology?

My guess is both competing factions are evil but I have no idea which is preferable. The Nazis want to exterminate all Jews, handicapped, mentally or physically disabled, gay, masons, etc... not sure who else. Zionists want to enslave all goyim, doing with them what they please.

Keep in mind these are all just ramblings of an excessive runaway imagination.

I can't say why they would be interested in humans, but the human race as a whole isn't ready for contact.

a reply to: dr1234

There are mountains of evidence of alien contact.

a reply to: Scdfa

I believe that statistic was taken from the results of Project Bluebook... so... yeah... BS.

originally posted by: Aquariusdude

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Aquariusdude

Misidentifying enemy aircraft is not the same as witnessing aerial phenomenon that cannot be explained.Military pilots know very well what normal aircraft are capable of..

First you need to go read the link I provided. A misidentification is a misidentification. Its really not much of a stretch that seeing a light in the sky might be misidentified by pilots that are on amphetamines with a lack of sleep. 95% of sightings turn out to be identified so that must mean that things get misidentified pretty often. I don't know of any stats that show pilots being immune to misidentifying things.

Take note that these objects could not be shot down or outmaneuvered...

That means these things have the same thing in common with things that aren't really there.

Objects that outmaneuver there aircraft really aren't there? Wow this isn't going anywhere.I am done talking to you.

Smart move.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Scdfa

I believe that statistic was taken from the results of Project Bluebook... so... yeah... BS.

Amazing. I'm not surprised, though.

originally posted by: Scdfa
a reply to: dr1234

There are mountains of evidence of alien contact.

Maybe you should make a thread on the "mountains of evidence" you claim to have access too. Because every time I click on a thread here or watch one of those stupid shows on the history channel that claim to have this so called 'solid evidence', I always end up completely disappointed.

a reply to: Aquariusdude

I wonder if they were terrestrial or extraterrestrial in origin - these UFO's that confronted soldiers.

If these UFO's were simply manifestations resultant from psychedelics then, in theory, the entire planet should now be covered in UFO's - they should be everywhere because psychedelics are bigger and better than ever........apparently.

OR - the soldiers saw unidentified flying objects.

a reply to: Aquariusdude
Ah who knows whats going on.

If there is any truth to this whole phenomenon and if its been kept on the ropes and down and low for so long. Then its likely not good for you, all things done in the shadows are there for a reason. In all I think if there were any actual alien phenomenon they its not likely they can not fully come here, or manifest in this dimension, or warp drive, or what not. Because if some of them could, I do believe the total human population on this planet will plummet from 6 something odd billion going on 7 billion to maybe a million or so in about a week. Its a big pond out there you know, and it takes all kinds.

But even if aliens actually existed, there are likely all kinds and would be as varied as most people are in any one large plot of landmass for all you know none of them would agree with the other aliens on anything. For now though! Its all just lights in the sky and strange people reporting or saying strange thing. At some latter future date however...We may not be so lucky as to be so entertained or in such lovely blissful ignorance.

But who knows. Pick your explanation and theory. Because anything you can likely think off is just as likely to be as faulty as the other guys.

a reply to: Scdfa

I hear this statistic tossed around casually by people who try to deny a UFO and alien connection. And it is often just accepted without being questioned.

I hear a LOT of stuff from you too and I suspect its 100% BS and people don't seem to question it. So I guess we are even.

actually, your questions are good and I don't have an answer. I really do think there needs to be better data collection. I brought that up before and linked a Vallee video but you thought his ideas were stupid. So, I don't think you really care about statistics anyway. If you asked the same type of questions regarding other aspects of the phenomenon, I would believe your sincerity but you don't so I think you are full of it.