Take YOUR Kid Out of School Without Permission? Court Will Take Your Furniture...or Jail Term.

originally posted by: crayzeed
This "rule" was instigated for the specific reason to address persistent absenteeism but the school authorities have got rather pedantic in it's application and use it for every absence.

Everyone I know just lies to the school that their ickle one was sick. It really is a laughing matter for every single parent I know.
The parents in the OP were either stupid, naive, or media whores.

originally posted by: Annee

The UK school in question is a Special Needs school. They have their own law on top of regular law.

I'm confused about the school wanting to take a couch and chair as part of the fine ...hehe

originally posted by: ketsuko

All right then, roll the money in my taxes that go toward the public schools into a voucher so that I can at least pick and choose which school my child is going to instead of being constrained by the postal code I live in.

Vouchers are good..

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ketsuko

All right then, roll the money in my taxes that go toward the public schools into a voucher so that I can at least pick and choose which school my child is going to instead of being constrained by the postal code I live in.

Vouchers are good..

For who and how do they work?

I personally think each school in a district should have a different style & level of teaching. And the child goes to which one fits them better.

I am not a supporter of inclusion - - that slower kids benefit by being with brighter kids. Its a detriment to the brighter kids IMO.

a reply to: greencmp

Hmmm....well, at least you are honest. Can I put your response on my FB about the agenda and what to expect. I think it is a dangerous one and should be noted.

a reply to: MOMof3

The non-nationalised education thing is a bit of a moot point in this thread about an issue in the UK system.
60 odd million people compared to 320 odd million, our education system would be better judged as an individual US state running it's own thing.
...the parents in the OP were still stupid, naive, or media whores though lol

a reply to: grainofsand

When the laws are so bad that 80% of the parents have to lie to the school, the problem is not one parents unwillingness or inability to lie... its the rule itself..

originally posted by: Annee

For who and how do they work?

I personally think each school in a district should have a different style & level of teaching. And the child goes to which one fits them better.

Basically, a voucher is your kids tax dollars that you can take to any school you like and use towards your kid's education. Lets say you are poor and live in a crappy part of town. The local school has a lot of issues, bad kids, crappy teacher, little money... you can elect to use the money the school would get and give it to a private school, or another public school and your kids goes to the other school.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Is transportation provided?

originally posted by: MOMof3

Is transportation provided?

Typically no, but it is your choice...

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: grainofsand

When the laws are so bad that 80% of the parents have to lie to the school, the problem is not one parents unwillingness or inability to lie... its the rule itself..

Nope, it just makes the law something most people laugh about as they flout it lol.
Chill out and stop looking for oppression where it ain't at. Remember our cops just mostly have sticks and are massively outnumbered...we can still laugh at bull# laws in the UK, which is why the parents in the OP are either stupid, naive, or media whores.

*Edit*
OK extendable steel sticks and at best one in ten have a tazer while still #ing themselves as they are massively outnumbered, so yes, we can and do often laugh at bull# laws in the UK because we can.
I imagine that is an alien concept to a US member if only because of the dedicated US cop killing/brutality forum on ATS.
We don't have that # here...you are more oppressed than we are from my observations, lol.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well, now that I have the republican agenda figured out, not just for our kids, but for the whole nation, I am going to go throw up from terror.

a reply to: Annee

The idea of the voucher is simply a fancy way of saying you pay so much in tax dollars for little Johnny or Suzy to receive schooling. Instead of the money going to your local school automatically just like little Johnny or Suzy will, no ifs ands or buts, you as the parent will do your research and decide which school you think is the best for little Johnny or Suzy and then that money follows them to that school.

It means you can still decide to let little Johnny or Suzy go to your local school or you can opt to send them to the local school on the other end of town, decide to choose a fancy private school and pay the difference for what your tax money won't cover, or pick any of the charter schools.

No matter what, the money you have spent in your taxes follows the your kid.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MOMof3

Is transportation provided?

Typically no, but it is your choice...

So, transportation now becomes an issue. What if the closest "good" school is all full and can accept no new students? Now you have to travel further and further to try and find a good school that isn't booked up with a waiting list. And what if the good school is in the rich neighborhood (to make it more convenient for the rich not to have to travel so far), and the snobby rich kids pick on the poor guy?

I'd rather try to make ALL public schools equally good so that the one in the poor neighborhood is just as good as the one in the rich neighborhood. Then you don't need vouchers.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Xtrozero

Well, now that I have the republican agenda figured out, not just for our kids, but for the whole nation, I am going to go throw up from terror.

Why? Do you like the idea of kids being stuck in schools that are failing? Why do hate inner city children so much?

a reply to: kaylaluv

A school that wants kids can opt to provide transportation.

But since you want to whine about not getting bus service ... I am having to provide all my son's transportation and pay for his tuition and fees and pay for him to go to a failing public school I'm paying through the nose for him not to go to.

How is that fair?

There is no "fix" to the school system as it is. There is no political will to break the system out of its current mold, and the current mold is a failing one.

a reply to: ketsuko

How about keep on topic with comments reflecting the solely UK based story in the OP?

originally posted by: kaylaluv

I'd rather try to make ALL public schools equally good so that the one in the poor neighborhood is just as good as the one in the rich neighborhood. Then you don't need vouchers.

I don't support vouchers either. You know me - - 100% separation of church and state. I do not want my tax dollars paying for a kid to go to religious school - - which is what most of the vouchers are used for (from what I've read).

I still would like to see each school in a district have a "special" theme. One for artistic, math interests, literature, creative thinking, etc.

You could still go to the closest school if there is no way to travel. But, it would offer a better range of education IMO. Not everyone learns the same or is interested in the same thing.

And then, I would have every local National Guard have a school for any child that disrupts the classroom.

Done - - back to topic. My bad.

a reply to: Annee

And then, I would have every local National Guard have a school for any child that disrupts the classroom.

Done - - back to topic. My bad.

wow That doesnt sound like jackbooted socialism at all...

I am not a supporter of inclusion - - that slower kids benefit by being with brighter kids. Its a detriment to the brighter kids IMO.

........seriously how long before youd start promoting the idea of just shutting the handicapped or "slower" children into institutions and keeping them out of the public

Your posts just get worse and worse........the roads you are going down and the though processes are horrible

Ive seen your ideals before around WWII.....and history recorded them well.....

I pray most of our country doesnt agree with your stance or we are doomed

originally posted by: Annee


I still would like to see each school in a district have a "special" theme. One for artistic, math interests, literature, creative thinking, etc.

I like that idea a lot!