Book of Ezekiel says ISIS is GOG & MAGOG, in spite of what Sectarians have claimed for years

originally posted by: r0xor

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: r0xor

Sure don't trust the media. That let's you invent your own reality that ISIS isn't anything but a very regional threat to two destabilized countries. They certainly will NEVER be a threat to Israel.
Losing 25% of the territory you took originally (which was already a small area to begin with). That's certainly the promising outlook of a group poised to become an international threat...

Al-Qaeda has 0% of territory, they've still killed thousands, all across the world, not just in two destabilized countries.

And Al-Qaeda is all but destroyed now. Most of what remained of Al-Qaeda splintered off and joined ISIS.

You have to understand the psychology and indoctrination of ISIS to really see it as a threat. How it's grown out of nothing, how it draws in foreign fighters from across the world, how it has supporters that are alone and isolated wherever they may be, and just might show up to the party to murder everyone in attendance, then die trying to murder the cops who've come to stop them. Like in Australia recently, and France. Please tell me you aren't saying global terrorism doesn't exist and we shouldn't be worried about it, or the contribution that ISIS may or may not make.

I don't have to understand crap. Terrorism is designed to raise the fearful doubts that you are expressing RIGHT here. Your words are an expression that shows that terrorism works. I know what ISIS' ideology is, and I also know that that the threat they pose has been blown WAY out of proportion. For one, the odds of being caught in a terrorist attack are dismally low. For two, I know that no terrorist attack will EVER destabilize a country unless its citizens let it. For three, I don't fear terrorism.

They've got the resources, manpower, materials, money, and terribly.. the faith to make Al-Qaeda look like Fischer Price, my first terrorist group.

They don't have any of those things.

a reply to: r0xor

Same. I've known that this sort of thing was imminent. I remember being like 7 looking out the window at the pretty sunshine and peaceful outside and thinking, this won't last. Because it's coming soon. You know, in the past month more Christians have been martyred than at any other time in modern history.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It's not about being afraid of it.

Are you afraid of dying in a car crash every time you get in and drive? I'm not, but I sure an aware that it's possible I could get in a wreck and die, too. You have to be plain stupid not be aware of that possibility, just like you have to be an idiot to not be aware you could get struck by lightning and die if you go outside and stand in the trees during a thunderstorm or that you could get attacked by a shark if you go surfing off the coast of Cali at certain times of the day ...

You can't live in fear, but at the same, you also acknowledge the reality. And the reality is that the potential for random terrorism from the ISIS minded now exists worldwide. *shrug*

Dear Readers,

I think that to assume ISIS is now fighting at a defensive position is a fatal error, everything point to the fact that they are enhancing their control or sphere of influence beyond the Levant region.

Such a point of view of the current events is quite wrong, you can mark my words for future reference.

ISIS is gaining support not only in the muslim world, they are moving a lot among renegades and other anarchists in the west, there is evidence that they are recruiting people in Western Europe, and this is not only in France.

The Obama administration is asking the Congress to facilitate the sending of support to Iraq precisely because they are aware of the terrible risk that represents to have ISIS in control of vast strategic areas from which it is relatively easy to spread their influence toward all the Levant.

The air military support that also has been offered by US to the Iraq government is a clear signal of how much is the level of worry that ISIS is causing in the white house, at this moment they are causing more damage that even Alqaeda, their momentum is also stronger than what Alqaeda had when they were just beginning.

Now, One of the facts that show precisely that their power is growing is that ISIS has at present a very offensive strategy, moving no longer in just one front, trying to converge from south Turkey to Iraq and Syria and from Lybia to Egypt.

The media is giving so much attention to the campaign of Isis either to control all Syria or all Iraq, but it is evident that ISIS is moving a lot in Lybia and they are practically in control of all the eastern side of that country, in my opinion their real big objetive now is to infiltrate Egypt and use the political unstable situation of that country to boost their possibilities to also take control of it. The Islamic Brotherhood of Egypt can offer them a mutually beneficial alliance.

Now, the erosion of the relationships in between Russia and the West is giving a lot of air to those terrorists, since they know that NATO is so much distracted with Ukraine civil war , As well as Russia, so they are fighting just against small countries that are exhausted of their own civil wars.

It is likely that ISIS at some point will merge forces with the Chechnyans, with Alqaeda, other muslim revels of the Caucasus mountains, Hamas, islamic Yihad and even possibly with what remains of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: ketsuko

That doesn't mean that ISIS poses any more of a threat than any other terrorist group that has come before them. And to be honest, I actually go through life not even recognizing terrorism as a threat. It is a possibility, but so is slipping and busting my head in the shower (I have a greater chance of that happening anyways). If you give it any more credence than I am, then you are letting the terrorists win (I hate using that cliched expression, but for here it is 100% true. It's what they want).

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No, you are quite wrong, and mark my words just for future reference. ISIS is gaining support not only in the muslim world, they are moving a lot among renegades and other anarchists in the west, there is evidence that they are recruiting people in Western Europe.

I'm wrong just because you say so? Lol.

The Obama administration is asking the Congress to facilitate the sending of support to Iraq precisely because they are aware of the terrible risk that represents to have ISIS in control of vast strategic areas from which it is relatively easy to spread their influence toward all the Levant.

All the Obama administration is doing and has been doing is bombing the hell out of ISIS. 85% of the airstrikes are US airstrikes.

The air military support that also has been offered by US to the Iraq goverment is a clear signal of how much is the level of worry that ISIS is causing in the white house, at this moment they are causing more damage that even Alqaeda, their momentum is also stronger than what Alqaeda had when they were just beginning.

Momentum? What momentum? I just posted a link saying that ISIS has lost 25% of the ground it gained in Iraq. That isn't momentum, it's a retreat!

Now, One of the facts that show precisely that their power is growing is that ISIS has at present a very ofensive strategy, moving no longer in just one front, trying to converge from south Turkey to Iraq and Syria and from Lybia to Egypt.

AND since those countries aren't destabilized, they are getting no where in them and taking no ground.

Now, the erosion of the relationships in between Russia and the West is giving a lot of air to those terrorists, since they know that NATO is so much distracted with Ukraine civil war , As well as Russia, so they are fighting just against small countries that are exhausted of their own civil wars.

It is likely that ISIS at some point will merge forces with the Chechnyans, with Alqaeda, other muslim revels of the Caucasus mountains, Hamas, islamic Yihad and even possibly with what remains of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

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No, that is not likely at all since all those groups have ideologies as different as a Lutheran and a Baptist do. Saying what you just said there would be the equivalent of a Christian denomination uniting all Christian denominations under one denomination. It isn't going to happen.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
And Al-Qaeda is all but destroyed now

Laugh. That's why Al-Shabaab, who is Al-Qaeda, killed over 140 innocent mostly young people less than a week ago in Kenya. What were their odds of ending up dead in an attack? Happened to them anyways. But they were singled out because they were Christians, and I doubt you're too worried about that one, right? Which, if true, begs the question why you even clicked on this thread (and are participating) to read about interpretations of bible prophecies to begin with unless you wanted to shoot someone or something down. It's a free country though, right? I guess that only applies if you live in the United States.

I don't have to understand crap. Terrorism is designed to raise the fearful doubts that you are expressing RIGHT here. Your words are an expression that shows that terrorism works. I know what ISIS' ideology is, and I also know that that the threat they pose has been blown WAY out of proportion.

Ah, so by that rationale, the United States Government might as well come and scoop me up and lock me away, because my words are an expression of the functions of terrorism, and I scare people, which is what terrorists are trying to accomplish. I am apparently the end result of the aim of terrorist organizations, nothing more than a scare-monger, a fear based entity. I could be a harm to unsuspecting people, and unknowingly support the agenda of terror groups, so I am a liability to the population. Krazysh0t for President.

I know that no terrorist attack will EVER destabilize a country unless its citizens let it. For three, I don't fear terrorism.

And it's citizens will never let a terrorist attack ever destabilize their country unless they don't like it to begin with. If they don't like it, there's a reason why, and it's one that negatively affects most of the citizens. These are problems caused and dealt with at the top, so if a terrorist attack ever destabilizes a country, it's because the Government of that country is too weak.

Unfortunately, none of that will matter when you're dead from a terrorist attack. No one will really shed a tear either for you, even though you're dead, because your government didn't fall despite it. Oh well ..

May the Government live forever and ever! lol

They don't have any of those things.

If I was bored and/or determined enough, which I'm not (thank God), I'd post all kinds of references right here with links to articles and studies from all sorts of places explaining and giving evidence for the sheer amount of money that they make on a daily basis through oil, drugs, kidnapping/ransom, plundering, theft, money laundering, and religious donations, but it would take too long. There'd also be articles on their estimated man-power, and embedded videos from youtube showing footage of all kinds of terrible #.

Don't care if you don't want to. You equate me to a proliferator of terrorist related fear, and I equate you to those in denial, ignorance, or disbelief, with too largely inflated ideas of the powers that be and possibly their own security & safety in the scheme of things to really even care about what ISIS is doing to people, or what it might or might not do. Who cares if they kill Christians ruthlessly and this is a thread about a Christian prophecy.

originally posted by: r0xor
Laugh. That's why Al-Shabaab, who is Al-Qaeda, killed over 140 innocent mostly young people less than a week ago in Kenya. What were their odds of ending up dead in an attack? Happened to them anyways. But they were singled out because they were Christians, and I doubt you're too worried about that one, right? Which, if true, begs the question why you even clicked on this thread (and are participating) to read about interpretations of bible prophecies to begin with unless you wanted to shoot someone or something down. It's a free country though, right? I guess that only applies if you live in the United States.

Why did I click on this thread? Because it was there. It also irks me when people try to fearmonger ISIS. For all the outrage about ISIS, it irritates me that people would play into their hands and promote their terrorism and show that it works by fearing them. I work to minimize that fear and give rational accounts of what ISIS really is to dispell the blatant fear mongering.

Ah, so by that rationale, the United States Government might as well come and scoop me up and lock me away, because my words are an expression of the functions of terrorism, and I scare people, which is what terrorists are trying to accomplish. I am apparently the end result of the aim of terrorist organizations, nothing more than a scare-monger, a fear based entity. I could be a harm to unsuspecting people, and unknowingly support the agenda of terror groups, so I am a liability to the population. Krazysh0t for President.

Are you reaching for points so badly only two pages into this thread that you already have to rely on hyperbole to try to get your point across? Sheesh...

And it's citizens will never let a terrorist attack ever destabilize their country unless they don't like it to begin with. If they don't like it, there's a reason why, and it's one that negatively affects most of the citizens. These are problems caused and dealt with at the top, so if a terrorist attack ever destabilizes a country, it's because the Government of that country is too weak.

Unfortunately, none of that will matter when you're dead from a terrorist attack. No one will really shed a tear either for you, even though you're dead, because your government didn't fall despite it. Oh well ..

If I'm dead because of a terrorist attack then I'm dead. I won't care about anything anyways. So whatever.

May the Government live forever and ever! lol

o.O

If I was bored and/or determined enough, which I'm not (thank God), I'd post all kinds of references right here with links to articles and studies from all sorts of places explaining and giving evidence for the sheer amount of money that they make on a daily basis through oil, drugs, kidnapping/ransom, plundering, theft, money laundering, and religious donations, but it would take too long. There'd also be articles on their estimated man-power, and embedded videos from youtube showing footage of all kinds of terrible #.

But of course, showing a bunch of statistics in a vacuum is a great propaganda technique to make them look worse than they are. It's when you compare those statistics to other relevant statistics does the REAL truth emerge, something I doubt you will go through with since you are already too lazy to back your position up with sources of your own.

Don't care if you don't want to. You equate me to a proliferator of terrorist related fear, and I equate you to those in denial, ignorance, or disbelief, with too largely inflated ideas of the powers that be and possibly their own security & safety in the scheme of things to really even care about what ISIS is doing to people, or what it might or might not do. Who cares if they kill Christians ruthlessly and this is a thread about a Christian prophecy.

Heh. If you think ISIS is a threat... Mexican drug cartels are worse than ISIL

originally posted by: The angel of light
Dear Readers,

I think that to assume ISIS is now fighting at a defensive position is a fatal error, everything point to the fact that they are enhancing their control or sphere of influence beyond the Levant region.

Such a point of view of the current events is quite wrong, you can mark my words for future reference.

ISIS is gaining support not only in the muslim world, they are moving a lot among renegades and other anarchists in the west, there is evidence that they are recruiting people in Western Europe, and this is not only in France.

The Obama administration is asking the Congress to facilitate the sending of support to Iraq precisely because they are aware of the terrible risk that represents to have ISIS in control of vast strategic areas from which it is relatively easy to spread their influence toward all the Levant.

Agreed, I don't think too many people will be worried or care that much until the threat personally affects their lives in a direct manner, since the people being ruthlessly murdered are too far away, too few between, too not like me, too christian, too whatever.

The fact that Obama of all people, with his cautious, almost weary military approach to his presidency, signed off on the airstrikes and all of the aid means that he is truly worried about the region and the threat of ISIS. I think he's trying to ride his last year or so in office out for his own personal legacy, letting the next president deal with it. Especially if that president ends up being a Republican, which could happen. Then we'd see an escalation, IMO.

The air military support that also has been offered by US to the Iraq government is a clear signal of how much is the level of worry that ISIS is causing in the white house, at this moment they are causing more damage that even Alqaeda, their momentum is also stronger than what Alqaeda had when they were just beginning.

Now, One of the facts that show precisely that their power is growing is that ISIS has at present a very offensive strategy, moving no longer in just one front, trying to converge from south Turkey to Iraq and Syria and from Lybia to Egypt.

Right. People view it in terms of the battlefield too much, and not on the ground level in the urban areas where the influence can spread rapdily. The Taliban is already starting to turn coats to ISIS, putting up black flags instead of white ones. How hard would it be for Hamas and Islamic Jihad to cross over, one day, or even a covert alliance? Then it's at Israel's doorstep. Al-Qaeda already infiltrates Egypt and Gaza, but particularly the Sinai, where Al-Qaeda terrorist attacks frequently occur. If everyone wants to destroy Israel, and eventually one group comes along to out-do the rest, they'll all join or ally with it to see those aims fulfilled. It's not a conspiracy and it's not rocket science, it's politics.

The media is giving so much attention to the campaign of Isis either to control all Syria or all Iraq, but it is evident that ISIS is moving a lot in Lybia and they are practically in control of all the eastern side of that country, in my opinion their real big objetive now is to infiltrate Egypt and use the political unstable situation of that country to boost their possibilities to also take control of it. The Islamic Brotherhood of Egypt can offer them a mutually beneficial alliance.

Just like all of the Palestinian Militant groups can, with the exception of perhaps Fatah. What am I saying, they'd probably join too.

It is likely that ISIS at some point will merge forces with the Chechnyans, with Alqaeda, other muslim rebels of the Caucasus mountains, Hamas, islamic Yihad and even possibly with what remains of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

You're right, it's already started happening.

a reply to: The angel of light

***In August 1919 Jewish properties, including synagogues, were seized and many Jewish communities were dissolved. The chaotic years of World War I, the February and October Revolutions, and the Civil War were fertile ground for antisemitism. Pogroms were unleashed throughout the Russian Civil War, perpetrated by every faction. The Soviet authorities considered the use of Hebrew language "reactionary" and the teaching of Hebrew at primary and secondary schools was officially banned as early as 1919. Many Jews fell victim to the Great Purges, and there is evidence that Jews were specifically targeted by Stalin. Over two million Soviet Jews are believed to have died during the Holocaust. As a result of the persecution, both state-sponsored and unofficial, antisemitism became deeply ingrained in the society.
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, many Soviet Jews took the opportunity of liberalized emigration policies, with over half their population leaving, most for Israel, the United States, Germany, Canada, and Australia. Despite this emigration, the Jewish population of Russia and the nations of the former Soviet Union still constitute the second-largest Jewish population in Europe, after France. In 1989, 71,000 Soviet Jews were granted exodus from the USSR. Mikhail Gorbachev allowed unlimited Jewish emigration. The government of Vladimir Putin takes an official stand against antisemitism, while some movements parties and groups are explicitly antisemitic. For many years, Russia had a higher rate of immigration to Israel than any other country.[7]***

source: en.wikipedia.org...
I don't doubt there have always been individual Jews in Russia/USSR with power and influence but there has still been massive persecution.

*** In January 1948 Solomon Mikhoels, a popular actor-director of the Moscow State Jewish Theater and the chairman of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, was killed in a suspicious car accident.[56] Mass arrests of prominent Jewish intellectuals and suppression of Jewish culture followed under the banners of campaign against "rootless cosmopolitans" and anti-Zionism. On August 12, 1952, in the event known as the Night of the Murdered Poets, thirteen of the most prominent Yiddish writers, poets, actors and other intellectuals were executed on the orders of Joseph Stalin, among them Peretz Markish, Leib Kvitko, David Hofstein, Itzik Feffer and David Bergelson.[57] In the 1955 UN Assembly's session a high Soviet official still denied the "rumors" about their disappearance.

The Doctors' Plot allegation in 1953 was a deliberately antisemitic policy: Stalin targeted "corrupt Jewish bourgeois nationalists", eschewing the usual code words like "rootless cosmopolitans" or "cosmopolitans".***

a reply to: The angel of light

Spiritual Leader of Libya’s Biggest Jihadi Group Pledges Allegiance to ISIS
www.newsweek.com...


ISIS steps up recruit in Afghanistan
www.cnn.com...


Is Al-Shabaab merging with ISIS?
www.myfoxtwincities.com...


ISIS accepts Boko Haram's pledge of allegiance
www.newsweek.com...


Here's one for fun, since Al-Qaida is freely roaming in Yemen at the moment:

Al-Qaida in Yemen offers 20 kg of gold for capture or killing of Houthi leader
www.haaretz.com...

originally posted by: r0xor

originally posted by: ThinkingMom

But it's because it does say in Revelation that the martyrs were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, when they appear before the Throne in white garments. Maybe that's where the big idea of chopping off Christians heads comes from, for ISIS?

a reply to: The angel of light

Josephus says something else:
Noah's World

ETA: To cut straight to the bone, we are talking a Magog to the North of the Caspian Sea and East of Ukraine. That's Russia, and the current conflict fits right into the frame

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: The angel of light

Josephus says something else:
Noah's World

Nice addition to the thread



Here we see "Magog" goes right over the Caucasus Mountains, right through Chechnya (and other Islamic republics in the Caucasus).

Ever heard of Al-Qaida in the Caucasus? Lol. Oh wait, they're defecting to ISIS now.

en.wikipedia.org...
Defections to Islamic State
Starting in November 2014, mid-level commanders of the Caucasus Emirate began publicly switching their allegiance from Emirate leader Ali Abu Mukhammad to the Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, following Baghdadi and his group's declaration of a caliphate earlier in the year.[21] By February 2015, many commanders of the Emirate's Vilayat Nokhchicho and Vilayat Dagestan, including the latter's leader, Rustam Asildarov, had defected.[21][22] Mukhammad and senior loyalists within the Emirate released statements denouncing the defections, and accused Asildarov and others of betrayal

Also shown is Gomer and Riphath as Turkey, and Togarmah as Eastern Turkey / Western Armenia / Kurdistan. Cush as Somalia/Sudan and Put as Libya (and beyond). Also notice, Shebah and Dedan are on the Arabian Peninsula.

Why are Sheba and Dedan mentioned in the prophecy, if the prophecy is foretelling mostly northern armies attacking Israel? Clearly the bottom portion of the Arabian Peninsula has no involvement with Israel, and wouldn't be a part of any battle there. However, it's a hot bed of Islamic fundamentalism, where alot of the support comes from for ISIS/Al-Qaida.

The prophecy briefly depicts them having a civil conversation with the army of Gog, which is the only point they are mentioned.
IF Gog's army are Islamic extremists, who else could have a civil conversation with them at all, other than devout Sunni Muslims?

I mean, clearly if someone had come to take your #, you wouldn't politely ask them, "So, have you come to plunder and take spoils?". It infers from the dialogue that it isnt their belongings which they are talking about being plundered.

a reply to: r0xor

Here's a geo-political map of the Caucasus region (Magog).

I think the phrase «Gog and Magog» should rather read «[king] Gog of [the kingdom] Magog» and refers to a massive warlord who will bring havoc to the world in the time leading up to Judgement Day. Putin, Ukraine, WWIII?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Who said anything about me changing the way I live my life? Aside from you, no one.

Now, all I said was that it's something to put on the page. I also believed I mentioned it in the same context as shark attack and lightning strikes. As I live in the middle of the country in a city with a reasonably significant Middle Eastern/North African Muslim immigrant population, I think I can rank getting caught in a possible terrorist attack somewhere between getting struck by lightning and shark attack with the former being the most likely and the latter being least likely, although we did have a guy make the news recently for traveling to Hawaii, going snorkeling and promptly getting chomped by a tiger shark, so there you go.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

That is what I am thinking.

It's gonna be so funny when Isis is gone in 2 years and the next terrorists group steps up to the plate. Isis can't touch Israel they would be wiped off the map in a week. Next time find someone more worthy to fight the "so called" Jews. Middle east is in shambles and the only superpowers left are Saudi And Israel and they happened to be allies.

a reply to: works4dhs

I think you must be careful into provide objective and well verified information about the real situation of Jewish people on Russian along History.

First at all you are mixing data from very different periods of Russian History that can't be done since correspond to very different political moments, second you are pretending that Jewish were always under prosecution in a country in which in fact they had extensive periods of absolute tolerance and others in which they were in position of political power and even they were the prosecutors.

Examples that contradict your claims are many.

During the Monarchy:

The polgroms you have mentioned occurred only in one specific period of history: the rule of the Tsar Nicholas I, the total number of Jewish that were executed is around 50000 and they were not the focused by ethnic cleaning, many other groups were also targeted by the brutal repression of that emperor that by the way was an usurpator of the power since he killed two of his older brothers to gain access to the throne.

en.wikipedia.org...

Before him there were never precedents of prosecution or discrimination against Jews in Russia or in Ukraine or other part of the Russian Empire. Following his rule the two remaining last Tsars Alexander III and Nicholas II were to the contrary extremely tolerant with the cultural diversity of the country.

Prominent Jewish intellectuals became in positions of Authority in those last 40 years of monarchy in Russia.

Let me mention just two of the most famous cases:

Alexander Kerensky, Last Prime minister during Nicholas II and Provisional President in the interim between the abdication and the October Revolution, he was a Jewish socialist politician that after to be ousted by Lenin of the power was released and peacefully went in to exile the rest of his life to France.

www.britannica.com...

spartacus-educational.com...

Sir Basil Zakharoff, a prominent Greek Jewish businessman that arrived from Turkey to Ukraine as a refuge, when Russia granted him political asylum. He became one of the most influential men in Russia, being one of the principal advisers in WWI of Tsar Nicholas II and built a fortune in arms production and trade. He also was released by the Bolsheviks and went into exile peacefully with all his millions and lived the rest of his life in England and Montecarlo.

www.britannica.com...

www.smithsonianmag.com...

Now, after the end of the Monarchy and during the Soviet regime the power of Jewish leaders became even bigger than anything seen before.

I have already mentioned the cases of Vladimir I Ulianov ( alias Lenin) and Leon Bernstein ( Alias Trotsky) who were the father founders of the Soviet Union, but there are many more political figures of incredible power that were Jewish.

- Lavrentiy Beria, a Jewish Georgian politician that became the principal of the secret police of Stalin , the NKVD, in the late 1930s and all along the 1940s until 1953 when the death of the Tyrant ousted him of power. He is responsible of he worst of the Stalinist purges, famous for his torture chambers and his victims are counted in millions.

en.metapedia.org...

spartacus-educational.com...

- Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich was a Jewish communist and one of the greatest mass-murderers in recorded history. As Stalin's chief henchman, he ordered the deaths of millions of Europeans, responsible of the Holomodor induced famine that exterminated millions of Ukrainian peasants and of the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.

en.wikipedia.org...

spartacus-educational.com...

Now, the case of Lev Kamenev and Gregory Zinoviev is pretty interesting. They were both extremely influential Bolshevik leaders that made entire chapters of the revolution. When Vladimir Lenin died they were nominated by the communist party among the triumvirate that was designated to rule the country together with Joseph Stalin. They remained in such unique position of power in the party and in the Soviet goverment until 1936 when it was discovered a plot in which both took part to oust Stalin of the power and put in his place Trotsky that was at that time in exile.

spartacus-educational.com...

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The list of Jewish Soviet prominent figures and political leaders is so extensive that it is not practical to write it down here, but let me finish this post pointing that the very last strong hard line Communist Leader of the USSR Yuri Andropov (1982-1984) was Jewish and it was under his rule that more soviet Jews were allowed to migrate toward Israel.

Recently declassified secret files of Andropov showed that he "adapted" his biography to the demands of the Bolshevik times—he made himself a son of an Ossetian proletarian, while he was actually from a rich bourgeoisie family, probably with Jewish roots. At the beginning, Andropov, according to the files, was not very accurate while inventing his family's "proletarian" past. He was questioned at least four times in the 1930s because of the discrepancies in several forms he filled.

www.newworldencyclopedia.org...

Thanks for your comment,

The Angel of Lightness

I agree with the OP. It fits right in with what I believe is the truth. The Neocons who prop'd up Reagan (tried to kill him) and the Bush's, the ones who have Dirt on the Clinton's and installed Obama as a stop gap to set up the next election for Jeb know this.

I think pointing a finger at the USSR was just a convenient distraction ( it takes time to set all this up ) to buy time.. Kinda like a magic trick "oohh look at this hand" while the other is doing the dirty.

They know who Gog Magog is/are. They help'd create them. They have been waiting for these times. Why else have we not gone after ISIS? We go after any and everything else..They need this to happen to weaken the Middle East because the Muslims are just not going to let the Temple Mount be rebuilt out of the kindness of their hearts...They will wait until there has to be a huge war and the Muslims (ISIS) will loose and drag down the entire region with them.

They are just following a script it seems..like one laid out in religious texts