I DON'T GET IT

Listen - Almost no one writes true literature nowadays, not stuff that addresses the BIG IDEAS of society without hitting everyone over the head with their own personal narrative. The classical writers were much better at telling the big ideas without letting the reader know they preaching at the same time. Take some time study how they did it. I know; I know ... we've all been taught that they're nothing but a bunch of old dead white guys, but they were old, dead white guys who knew their craft.

See how they did it, then look at how others aren't doing it today.

Then look at ways you can write really engaging, deep stuff that has the big ideas, that preaches old school. You stuff will be buried so deep into the story that people will be taught what you want them to learn without them even realizing you're doing it, and maybe, just maybe, they'll be reading you long after all of us are dust, just like they do those old, dead white guys because the truly big ideas are universal to all people of all times.

Youve got an entire lifetime ahead of you .. take time to live it along the way .. worlds been here long before you and it will be around long after you .. yes .. there are important messages that need to get out but dont let that control your entire life .. use your talents incorporate those messages into your art and writing ..

Are you talking about Alex Jones?

I went through this phase myself. I think many of us do when we take the red pill, but that rush wears off after a while. TrueBrit hit the nail on the head - there is no balance between emotion and reason with AJ.

Art can tell a tale in seconds, many great authors used allegoric messages that really strike people's minds. In stead of going head-on with your audience, it's better to take them on a journey and slowly introduce them to wonderland.

Be patient.
en.wikipedia.org... - the links on the bottom are very interesting in this case, as some of them will surely be recognized in AJ and in your audience.

I'm assuming you're a romantic like me, otherwise you wouldn't be in this much pain. So maybe this is the path for you, but maybe I'm wrong.

a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX

Try Buddhist literature instead.

I recommend something from the Shambala Tradition, a recent secular school of Buddhism with the ultimate goal of creating, in this world, an enlightened society.

First step - work on yourself so that you have clarity of perception and mind and can function effectively in moment to moment existance.

I recommend works by Lodro Rinzler, a young lay Buddhist, a short quote from his "The Buddha Walks into the Office: A Guide to livelihood for a New Generation" (page 30):

"Now, imagine for a moment a world where an entire generation took the view that it is moe important that they determine who, not what they want to be when they grow up. some would still ecome baseball players and astronauts, but the would engage their work with the values that are most important to them.

If my generation and future generations took up this simple question, we would not quander years trying to find the "perfect" job. We would discern what is important to us and live all aspects of our life in line with what we actually anted to be. I am a firm believer that by doing that we would ultimately create that Change in society with a capital C."

You can live your values and be of service to those ideals you follow everyday in every area of your life.

It's simple really but hard to do, we all get to places where we said, at least to ourselves, "Why do I have to do the right thing, when 'they' don't. Why do I have to do this lousy job, they don't. Etc" Fact is bring in your best self to a lousy job and with time it will not be so lousy and you'll find a better one. I see it work for me all the time and see it work for others. It's truly is not about them or it out there, it's about me in here. Set a good example wherever you go and in whatever you do.

In line at the grocery store, don't swear under your breathe about the awful service, say hi and smile to the people in line around you, let someone go ahead of you.

Slow down.

It is always wisest to get your info from multiple sources so that you can cross reference it and decide what rings true, and even if it all rings true, find what is most urgent to you.

If you want to be a leader you will need to do your own research, exposes new stuff and work your cause. There is plenty of room for the right kind of leaders but you need to work hard with a clear head and not let emotion interfere with your work. Alex could be completely right for all I know but his style is so off putting that it becomes a joke. Temper your emotion if you become a leader.

I. personally am an omega dog, not an alpha. There is a lot of freedom by not moving up the ranks... Think carefully on this. Someone earlier mentioned that the aware are still outnumbered in society, but that change will occur when the bulk of society is awake. Therefore, it is also enough to sit quietly prepared for that turning point as the numbers are huge and gently talking to each other builds this force too.

All alex Jones wants is for you to buy the products that sponsor his show. Listen to something inspirational like an alan watts or Terrance McKenna playlist on YouTube instead and see how your live improves. You need waking up from Alex Jones, he's no good for you

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX

Here's the thing though...

While you are listening to Alex Jones, and letting all your rage and hatred out vicariously by cheering him on, as he looses all reason down a microphone on the radio, or in podcasts, that energy is just evaporating. You are not using that energy to create, but to vegetate before the vast glimmering might of someone ELSES rage!

Rather than do so, I would advise using the rage you have, rather than venting by proxy, and pouring every bitter drop of venom into your work. Whether it be writing, penciling, or colouring your graphic novel work, or some poetic product. That way, just by existing, the work you create will be thought provoking, and probably represent protest, represent an act of activism in and of itself, as many graphic novels have before!

Why do you always give me such perfect advice?

You have a talent for saying things exactly how I need to hear em.

And everyone else--I understand how self damaging this sort of obsession is. But it's usually really difficult for me to pinpoint it or catch it. I don't think of myself as separate from the bigger issues, everything sorta mulls together in me. There are no such things as separate events. Although I know that I'll make truly no difference if I allow it to consume me... still trying to find a balance.

This is probably the most genuine rant I've ever posted here.

Quite an impulsive thing for me to do... I've gotten really wary of posting anything heartfelt on this site, for reasons most of you can probably guess. Thanks you all for the feedback.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
All alex Jones wants is for you to buy the products that sponsor his show. Listen to something inspirational like an alan watts or Terrance McKenna playlist on YouTube instead and see how your live improves. You need waking up from Alex Jones, he's no good for you

I've had this argument more times than I've drawn breath on this planet.

If you'd like me to prove you wrong, post a thread about Alex Jones and we'll go from there.

Not here please.

Everyone;

See how they did it, then look at how others aren't doing it today.

Fair point. Although I can never really handle truly captivating stories without getting hung up on them for weeks... then it becomes hard for me to focus on my own. I suppose I'll grow out of that, though.

The picture in my avatar is something that I drew on the tablet. My writing is more of a graphic novel thing, see?

I've often thought about how I'd incorporate a deeper message into the story, on an emotional level as well as inserting thoughts concerning the grand scheme of the world at large.

Youve got an entire lifetime ahead of you .. take time to live it along the way .. worlds been here long before you and it will be around long after you .. yes .. there are important messages that need to get out but dont let that control your entire life .. use your talents incorporate those messages into your art and writing ..

You're absolutely right.

Are you talking about Alex Jones?

Yep.

Please don't.

I went through this phase myself. I think many of us do when we take the red pill, but that rush wears off after a while. TrueBrit hit the nail on the head - there is no balance between emotion and reason with AJ.

There's no balance between emotion and reason with me either. That's why I relate to the man so much -- so many of us try to calm down too quickly. I'm tired of being calm... I've been keeping my mouth shut in order to maintain some level of "peace" my entire life. It's absolutely infuriating and I'll not have it anymore.

en.wikipedia.org... - the links on the bottom are very interesting in this case, as some of them will surely be recognized in AJ and in your audience.

Holy Christ, I didn't know it was a disease

Kidding... I honestly didn't know there was a term for it, though.

You hit the nail on the head

I'm assuming you're a romantic like me, otherwise you wouldn't be in this much pain. So maybe this is the path for you, but maybe I'm wrong.

Nope. You're 100% right.

Try Buddhist literature instead.

You have a compelling argument, but following any sort of belief system makes me incredibly uneasy for some reason. Listening to anything which suggests how I should think or feel makes me tense, not to mention my extremely conservative family would accuse me of having a mental disorder if I adopted any faith apart from Christianity... chucking people in the loony bin is their solution to anything that they don't understand or accept.

I like your post, but it seems like more trouble than its worth.

Especially with my family in my life.

First step - work on yourself so that you have clarity of perception and mind and can function effectively in moment to moment existance.

I can get behind that

If you want to be a leader you will need to do your own research, exposes new stuff and work your cause. There is plenty of room for the right kind of leaders but you need to work hard with a clear head and not let emotion interfere with your work. Alex could be completely right for all I know but his style is so off putting that it becomes a joke. Temper your emotion if you become a leader.

I respectfully disagree about his temper--I suppose that sort of message only appeals to certain people... people like me, who are constantly angry. Still, you're right about the research and developing a cause. I tried it once in highschool and actually managed to put together a little gang of conspiracy theorists called Asylum, but it sort of fell apart after we all graduated a couple years ago.

I tend to get carried away with the research... get more angry... get extremely stressed... still working on that. While I value my anger, it couldn't hurt to learn how to manage it better...

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX


How is it sad? Should we not be angry? Look around.

I like seeing people who wear everything on their sleeve. Means there's less that they're hiding behind their eyes, less information they're withholding for whatever reason.

Well as I said, you need better idols.
AJ makes a lot of money, It's an act... his rage that you enjoy so much is manufactured, insincere.
Of course we should be angry but put your anger to good use... listening to someone else get angry and saying "**** yeah AJ, Right on" is not really doing anything at all is it?

Use your energy for positive change, make a difference.

Listening to AJ fake whining about crap isn't really doing anything at all is it?

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX


How is it sad? Should we not be angry? Look around.

I like seeing people who wear everything on their sleeve. Means there's less that they're hiding behind their eyes, less information they're withholding for whatever reason.

Well as I said, you need better idols.
AJ makes a lot of money, It's an act... his rage that you enjoy so much is manufactured, insincere.
Of course we should be angry but put your anger to good use... listening to someone else get angry and saying "**** yeah AJ, Right on" is not really doing anything at all is it?

Use your energy for positive change, make a difference.

Listening to AJ fake whining about crap isn't really doing anything at all is it?

Right.

I've seen his earliest stuff -- things he did with no budget, and only one camera man. The guy clawed his way to his current position, he wasn't strategically placed there. Not to mention their products are all outstanding in their effects, and I'm speaking as a user of them.

My first order of their iodine shouldn't have been accepted because I didn't have enough money in my paypal account (didn't realize it until later), and somehow the product found its way to my house anyhow. Call it a glitch in the system maybe, but it seemed like they wanted me to have the stuff more than they wanted my money. Maybe that's too far, I don't know.

I DO, however, have a knack for psychology. I'm not a professional, but I like to think reading people is one of my strong suits, and psychology and sociology were my most recent classes. Lying is not a hard thing to spot, and one of the biggest red flags is a composed, calm human being--people who have the capacity, restraint, and the poker face to hide information from whomever they're speaking to.

Alex Jones is not one of those people.

According to psychology author George K. Simon, successful psychological manipulation primarily involves the manipulator:

1 - concealing aggressive intentions and behaviors.

2 - knowing the psychological vulnerabilities of the victim to determine what tactics are likely to be the most effective.

3 - having a sufficient level of ruthlessness to have no qualms about causing harm to the victim if necessary.

Source


1 - Alex Jones concealing aggressive behaviors? Seriously? HA

2 - How can he know the psychological vulnerabilities of thousands of his listeners?

3 - I don't know the man personally, but hearing him tear up on air when he's talking about child abuse makes me think that, while he's angry, he's not a ruthless monster absent of a conscious, and he certainly wouldn't become furious when he's TALKING about our soulless leaders if he were.

If you want to argue further, I have a thread about it here.

a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX

In response to you comment about Buddhism telling you how to think.

Buddhists really don't care about the 'content' of your thinking, their objective is to refine and dicipline the thinking process, cognition, the 'executive' functions of thought.

By practising 'focus' and choosing your thoughts (rather then becoming 'consumed' by thoughts or impressions) you can more accurately discern those that are 'worthly' of who you want to be. This is true for emotonal content as well.

Distraction, in all it's guises is distructive to effectiveness.

Buddhism is not a religion in the western sense of the world - though there are ritual trappings. Its a philosophy and a discipline - a mental discipline.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Buddhists really don't care about the 'content' of your thinking, their objective is to refine and dicipline the thinking process, cognition, the 'executive' functions of thought.

But see, designing the way I think terrifies me for some reason...

It shouldn't, but it does

Buddhism is not a religion in the western sense of the world - though there are ritual trappings. Its a philosophy and a discipline - a mental discipline.

I will definitely look into it, my only concern is trying to empty my mind and discipline it. I've never been able to before and thinking that some philosophy invented by someone else could influence me scares me, and GOD is it frustrating. I'm overly paranoid is all. It's a milestone I have to overcome.

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX

originally posted by: rickymouse
Don't listen to Alex then. If you like to do something and it does not hurt others, then do it. If people think you are nuts, tell them you are a member of a conspiracy site, that way they won't have to guess anymore, it will make them feel better.

Alex is the only voice I've got that inspires me.

Listening to him is like listening to all the anger in me expel from someone else, and the anger is aimed at all the same things. I don't care what anyone thinks about Alex Jones and I'm not going to debate about him here--so if that's where ANYONE plans to take this thread, stop now. Move along.

I definitely WILL pursue my graphic novels. I have an idea of how to do so.

It's activism that I'm at a loss with.

Just a thought...take it or leave it. Alex Jones (whom I know very little about) nor any individual, has all the answers. When you find a person that "speaks to you", they are a stepping stone among many over the course of your life. Us humans run into trouble when we find one individual, stick with them and don't continue to evolve. If Alex works for you now...that is fine. But always be looking for the next person that can add to the growth and education of your belief and moral system. And don't forget that you are ALLOWED to have your own "religion" or system. You don't have to adopt another's. And again...it can't end with one person...it has to continue or you don't progress.

"Life's a journey, not a destination" - Aerosmith (at least most recently)

So here it is...Aerosmith - Amazing.
Kinda fits your thoughts and concerns.

OP, you are probably going to disagree, but I think what I have to say is very much on topic and does not need another thread.

Alex Jones is one of "them." Yup, I said it, and you are falling right in line with what TPTB want you to feel...Helpless.

Do I think he is intentional serving those he rages against on his show? Who knows. I will give the man credit that he has been the only one to address certain topics. However, his ratings depend on invoking strong emotion, just like Fox news, and one of the main emotions is fear, which leads to helplessness which leads to self oppression.

That makes him part of the problem.

originally posted by: calstorm
OP, you are probably going to disagree, but I think what I have to say is very much on topic and does not need another thread.

Alex Jones is one of "them." Yup, I said it, and you are falling right in line with what TPTB want you to feel...Helpless.

Do I think he is intentional serving those he rages against on his show? Who knows. I will give the man credit that he has been the only one to address certain topics. However, his ratings depend on invoking strong emotion, just like Fox news, and one of the main emotions is fear, which leads to helplessness which leads to self oppression.

That makes him part of the problem.

The difference lies in the information and the legitimacy of it. Plus the emotion evoked by the alternative media usually prompts groups like Overpasses to protest, and gives the rest of us an extra initiative to get involved on a local level. The emotion/fear generation by the MSM is used to fuel propaganda (example, bringing witnesses of school shootings onto the news and using them as an emotional hook, so that we'll all give up our gun rights out of sadness and fear).

I do see your point, and it's a touchy thing, because anyone who hits other people on an emotional level has a very sensitive part of them ready and waiting to abuse, but I suppose I'm just naive in trusting that Alex Jones has no intentions of doing so. If I'm wrong, I'll find out. We all do eventually.

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX

But see, designing the way I think terrifies me for some reason...

It shouldn't, but it does

If you haven't programmed how you think, someone else has done it for you. The trepidation is part of the programming, since social programming wouldn't be too effective if individuals just chose to think for themselves!

That said, there isn't necessarily a need for any theistic involvement. Though, it can certainly be useful and helpful from a comparative standpoint.

Think of it more like learning HTML/CSS/etc. There is a language and grammar to it, but what we build with it is entirely up to us. Then, when you are comfortable enough, you can design a language and grammar all your own! Though, most never get that far.

originally posted by: Serdgiam

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX

But see, designing the way I think terrifies me for some reason...

It shouldn't, but it does

If you haven't programmed how you think, someone else has done it for you. The trepidation is part of the programming, since social programming wouldn't be too effective if individuals just chose to think for themselves!

That said, there isn't necessarily a need for any theistic involvement. Though, it can certainly be useful and helpful from a comparative standpoint.

Think of it more like learning HTML/CSS/etc. There is a language and grammar to it, but what we build with it is entirely up to us. Then, when you are comfortable enough, you can design a language and grammar all your own! Though, most never get that far.

Sounds very interesting....

Well said.