Lucifer is female?

originally posted by: Thowni
Lucifer is fictional.

Batman is fictional but people can still discus the plot holes and theorize on the script. Saying "Batman is fictional" doesn't really contribute to a discussion about Batman.

originally posted by: christophoros
a reply to: AboveBoard ah most of my knowledge are from the many intepretations and meanings from the bible from bible study with Hebrews REAL Hebrews of all races. You didn't know Lucifer is lightbearer?

Ah. I see. You believe you have found REAL truth... I believe if you read my post above you would know the answer to your question as to my own knowledge. The name "Lucifer" has been translated as "light bearer," but, more completely it means this:

Lucifer (/ˈluːsɪfər/ lew-sif-ər) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl[1] or heylel,[2] occurs only once in the Hebrew Bible[1] and according to the KJV-influenced Strong's Concordance means "shining one, morning star".[2] The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate,[3] which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer,[Isa 14:12][4][5] meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing".[6] The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑωσφόρος[7][8][9][10][11] (heōsphoros),[12][13][14] a name, literally "bringer of dawn", for the morning star.[15]

"Lightbearer" is a simplification of the definition.

More distorted male opposition to a negative representation of the female...

The feminine principal is coming into the world and men need to recognise the Goddess in every woman... and within themselves.

Op, don't you see how the theory parallels the Gnostic vision of Sophia, and the taste of Demonisation comes from a sprinkle of Abrahamic seasoning?

There's a movie about this it's called the ninth gate with Johnny depp and Lena Olin it's a Roman Polanski movie from 1999 Lena Olin is hot in it.

a reply to: DonVoigt

a reply to: boymonkey74


Good Ghod. What a load of utter pish!!!!

You really will say anything to get stars.

My two pennarth, Lucifer is female???

Flup yeah she is.

Man alone is not even capable of fathoming what evil a woman scorned can unleash.

Women/lucifer, yep!!!!

Lucifer=Archangel= androgenous.
DUH.
A SUCCUBUS is a female...

a reply to: fenian8

Oh believe me three times divorced I know what women can do...but I also know that men are just as bad.
If you deny this you are lying.
Also why is that comment pish? it does say man is in gods image so all men/women/gay etc are created as they should be.
To say any of these groups are not from god contradicts what the texts say.
Also who gives a flying feck about stars? you obviously do because you brought them up....I care not.

a reply to: AboveBoard I see where your getting at and no I don't believe I found the whole truth not until I die it's just easier to start with the Hebrew text I study far more back then this

a reply to: boymonkey74

Lucifer is female?

Yep a man is just as bad i suppose.

But a woman, in most cases, is a lot more cynical and precise in her execution.

I find.

And the only stars i bother about or give a flying feck for are the ones I study in the night sky, hence why I don`t have to spout any right on rhetoric.

a reply to: Wifibrains the Feminine principal still exists like I said before why do you believe just because I point out Lucifer is feminine in energy that I'm demonizing women?

a reply to: fenian8

You appear to be hurt and have some past hurt with the ladies...me also but I will not demonise them any more than men.
You are using your experiences as a paint to tar all women.
Not a wise thing to do.

a reply to: cavtrooper7
All angels are adrogynous but they can exhibit male or female energies has nothing to with the actual sex of the angel. Michael is handsome is he not? He is a righteous warrior of good is he not? That's male energy. While Lucifer was beautiful and admired for this beauty is feminine as far as I can tell

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: fenian8

You appear to be hurt and have some past hurt with the ladies...me also but I will not demonise them any more than men.
You are using your experiences as a paint to tar all women.
Not a wise thing to do.

Your political correctness is becoming painful!

If the OP had painted Lucifer as a male would your reaction been the same?

Holy snip! The fact that you bring political correctness into a debate on a an imaginary character is just FREAKIN MIND BOGGLING!!!!

a reply to: boymonkey74 fenian is sorta right tho too women are more cunning than men that's just a given more elaborate. If Michael was the one that rebelled things would be different all out war until either Yahweh or Michael were destroyed but I doubt Michael would have a chance against his father.

a reply to: boymonkey74


Actually I`m just slightly amused to log on after a brilliant Easter Monday, to see a thread titled, unless i`m mistaken,

Lucifer is female?

I just found it mildly amusing cos, yes, because of my horrendous, disgusting experience with females, I am that scarred from it I find it a vaguely amusing question.

I would humorously answer it with a big fat "yes.....yes she is"

I don`t see the need to over analyise it and hypothesis about gay people etc.

I was making an observation that`s all.

Peace.

a reply to: seeker1963

Not PC at all I talk from experience. I don't see where I brought PC in this thread, is it that I see women as an equal that has riled you? I don't get it?.
Oh and it is an imaginary character but heck so is Luke Skywalker and I love to talk about him .

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: seeker1963

Not PC at all I talk from experience. I don't see where I brought PC in this thread, is it that I see women as an equal that has riled you? I don't get it?.
Oh and it is an imaginary character but heck so is Luke Skywalker and I love to talk about him

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Who was it that brought into the conversation that the OP's stance was against women?

Refresh my memory please! Whether you can see it or not, your view is a direct correlation to the PC movement that is poisoning the minds of those who are weak enough to buy into it!

Nothing personal against you BTW, but just a disturbing observation that I wanted to bring to your attention. Love me, Hate me, or don't give a damn about me, doesn't matter! Think about it.

a reply to: seeker1963

Yes doesn't mean Iam being PC or anything.
I have looked into the religions before the ones we have now and drawn conclusions that the gods people follow are made in the image of men and have pushed the female god form out and have used this to put down and subjugate women, watch the doc I posted to see.
One thing I just got from your last post is why you would think equality for women is poisoning minds?.
I'm for equality period man/woman or chimpanzee.
But it appears many still want the olden days where women are not equal to men.

Annnnnd the thread devolves into a "who is more evil, men or women" battle of the sexes. Neat.

"Women are more cunning..." "Man alone is not even capable of fathoming what evil a woman scorned can unleash." "compared to my ex-wives lucifer is a saint .. even he would be terrified of them .. thus in answer to your question .. no .. lucifer is not female" ETC...

(The above quoted from male posters in this thread.)

REALLY?!?!?

*cough* Hitler *cough*
*cough* Inquisition *cough* Dahmer *cough

Yeah. Women are just soooo "sensitive" when we call them Evil!


lol!

None of the "he did this" or "she did that" is even relevant. EVIL does NOT equal "feminine energy." EVIL does NOT equal "male energy." Evil is evil - it doesn't even deserve a capital letter. It is neither male nor female, and can be enacted by both. Anyone can choose to turn away from the light - and the feminine is not "dark energy" no matter what men think - dark is absence of Light, an absence of energy, not an energy unto itself.

Now...back to the Bible:
Are you aware that the King is described as beautiful in the same passage you quote? (Ezk 28) Perhaps all of this is the fact that in our culture we freak out at calling men "beautiful" but that back in the day this wasn't a big deal??? I can hardly use the word "beautiful" to determine gender...