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Lucifer is female?

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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:12 PM
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I came across this link and this guy has some very good points on why Lucifer/Satan is if female origin. Now I don't mean literally that the devil has a vagina or something but feminine energy as angels and demons don't need reproductive organs. It makes sense too.

Yahweh made Lucifer the most beautiful thing in heaven. Key word is beautiful. Michael is is God's top angel and the most revered and he's referred to as handsome. It's common sense that the most beautiful would be female in energy and stature Yahweh would stare and marvel at the beauty of Lucifer. He's definitely not going to be staring at a dude lol. Another reason I believe this is also to hush the sceptics who say "well if god is so powerful why doesn't he just destroy Lucifer and the demons". Well he can't he loves her too much she betrayed him when she thought she could rule heaven on her own.

Yahweh in his all knowing wisdom is punishing her but he is also teaching her a lesson. You wanna rule a kingdom well here's earth lets see how well you do managing my children who you tricked into falling for your lies. Now this is not meant to be taken sexist at all. But Lucifer just happens to have female tendencies. If a man doesn't like another dude they usually just fight and get it over with. Now when a woman doesn't like another women fighting will be the last thing to happen usually.

There's the gossiping or spreading of lies to defamate the person. There's the smiling in your face but talk crap behind your back. Is this not what is happening is Yahweh's character not being questioned and lies being spread about him? Now I'm not saying men don't exhibit these traits they do, but they aren't real men are they with these tendencies?

Yahweh created Lucifer for companionship he gave her everything he adorned her in jewels why would Yahweh give a man jewelry? He won't he gave Michael a sword didn't he. If any other angel rebelled Yahweh would have banished that angel out of existence, but it was his beautiful creation the Apple of his eye. He had enormous love for Lucifer he did for other angels as well but Lucifer and Michael were his favorite and everyone knows that. Yahweh is teaching her a lesson here on earth. Like a child who wants a puppy really bad so you buy it for them and they learn the hard way of the responsibilities it takes to take care of it and they finally learn and mature. This is the reason Lucifer was given dominion over earth, she's doing a shot job with it as well smh. Many will say "oh how cruel of Yahweh doing this just to prove a point".

Do you not enjoy your life? If you follow the universal laws you will always be content in everything. Good and bad are apart of life you must experience both. This does not excuse evil you must always fight it where ever you can. As for the suffering in the world there's a good Kendrick Lamar lyric that sums it up "the one in front of the gun will live forever". Back to the topic it's funny but we really are just in the middle of the worst break up in cosmic history LOL.
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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Oh look another view that demonizes women....
All of Abraham s religions do it but if you look before these male war gods the gods were female gods.
How any female could follow one of the three bewilders me...it is dissing your sex and you accept it.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74
Women are the holy spirit that create the trinity just because one turned out to rebel it demonizes all women your generalizing. Feminine energy is essential.


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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Yeah but the eternal blame is always on women.
Eve fecked it up for us all etc.
These religions can claim they adore women but reading the scripts to me at least lays much blame on them....you can tell it was all written by men.
These books do not put women as equals as they are and should be.
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posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Well... comparing the death tolls between Lucifer and the god in the old testament, I'd say she's doing a better job than he is.

We can view the past religious zealotry of the old testament by just reading the headlines about ISIS. No thank you, Yahweh; I'm cool with my modern surroundings without the constant threat of one of your followers killing my entire town because one of the citizens is accused of sorcery. Satan rocks compared to that guy.

Now Jesus on the other hand... I think he would have actually had some kind words with the OT Lucifer. They certainly had more in common than he and "god". She would have appreciated his legacy of destroying the established religious structure.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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No she isn't a female.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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*sigh*

That's just what women need, someone saying we are the very Devil. Of course, some already think this and will feel somehow vindicated. Though honestly, I don't see Lucifer as being very feminine at all. In fact, Lucifer from what I've seen refers actually to the King of Babylon...



The Hebrew words הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר (Helel ben Shaḥar, "day-star, son of the morning") in Isaiah 14:12 are part of a prophetic vision against an oppressive king of Babylon. Jewish exegesis of Isaiah 14:12–15 took a humanistic approach by identifying the king of Babylon as Nebuchadnezzar II. Verse 20 says that this king of Babylon will not be "joined with them [all the kings of the nations] in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, thou hast slain thy people; the seed of evil-doers shall not be named for ever", but rather be cast out of the grave, while "All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, every one in his own house".


Lucifer - wiki

And here are some interesting facts...including Christ and John the Baptist being referred to by the Latin name for Lucifer... Lucifer = the Devil is a concept that was introduced later in Christianity...



Indications that in Christian tradition the Latin word Lucifer, unlike the English word, did not necessarily call a fallen angel to mind exist also outside the text of the Vulgate. Two bishops bore that name: Saint Lucifer of Cagliari, and Lucifer of Siena.

In Latin, the word is applied to John the Baptist and is used as a title of Christ himself in several early Christian hymns. The morning hymn Lucis largitor splendide of Hilary contains the line: "Tu verus mundi lucifer" (you are the true light bringer of the world).[47] Some interpreted the mention of the morning star (lucifer) in Ambrose's hymn Aeterne rerum conditor as referring allegorically to Christ and the mention of the cock, the herald of the day (praeco) in the same hymn as referring to John the Baptist.[48] Likewise, in the medieval hymn Christe qui lux es et dies, some manuscripts have the line "Lucifer lucem proferens".[49]

The Latin word lucifer is also used of Christ in the Easter Proclamation prayer to God regarding the paschal candle: Flammas eius lucifer matutinus inveniat: ille, inquam, lucifer, qui nescit occasum. Christus Filius tuus, qui, regressus ab inferis, humano generi serenus illuxit, et vivit et regnat in saecula saeculorum (May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star: the one Morning Star who never sets, Christ your Son, who, coming back from death's domain, has shed his peaceful light on humanity, and lives and reigns for ever and ever). In the works of Latin grammarians, Lucifer, like Daniel, was discussed as an example of a personal name.[50]



So, unless you are relying on the idea of the "morning star" (Venus) and some cultural ideas of what "masculine" and "feminine" energies are, Lucifer is not considered female.

peace,
AB



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: christophoros

Yeah but the eternal blame is always on women.
Eve fecked it up for us all etc.
These religions can claim they adore women but reading the scripts to me at least lays much blame on them....you can tell it was all written by men.
These books do not put women as equals as they are and should be.


Look up "Ashura". There was a great exile withing the ancient Hebrew belief structure where they ousted all of those who believed in the original Yahweh/Ashura partnership. It's even talked about in the OT here and there.

Christians, if you go back far enough, came from a goddess worship religion. Many cultures did the same by eliminating the female component to various pantheons or giving them subservient roles throughout time.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Actually, in the old testament it seems that Angels did have a organs to do exactly that and nephilims were born.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo the new testament was created for this reason Yahweh has killed many but he is just the god of war connected to the all which is Hashem that component was necessary considering the time and cycles etc.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Knowing both my ex-wives....I KNEW it!



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

Here is a great documentory.
When God was a girl.



I believe in god just not religion and I have always thought without thinking If god had a sex it has to be woman because she gave birth to the universe.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo no one blames eve for anything that's sexist she didn't know any better do you hate a child for doing something bad just because sexist people try to nitpick the bible doesn't mean anything



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74 Yahweh is the male component and ashura the female the real god isn't male or female is the ALL which is hashem which constitutes all reality



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

She didn't know any better...
Blimey are we in the 1950's...
Sorry dude Adam and Eve didn't happen.
Males taking over god and making her male did....just to put the woman down.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: dollukka yes they must manifest on earth in physical form they must transmute out of the light body form or else they wouldn't be seen



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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Dude your seriously nitpicking you know the context of the story neither eve nor Adam knew any better when they bit the fruit and it is allegorical but that's not the point I think you are just looking for sexism in when their isn't just because the patriarchal society we are in that bastardized the truth want you too a reply to: boymonkey74



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

I never thought of the angels as really having "genders" per se. We think of Michael and Gabriel as male because of their names and that's about it.



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

Just to prove my point look at the anti woman passages in the bible.

www.nobeliefs.com...

How any ladies can believe this BS...
Appears the OP thinks women are the opposite of good which is the devil also known as Lucifer.

# imagine If the gods were accepted as female....I think the world would be a better place.
Plus boobs



posted on Apr, 6 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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Heck you are just following your religious teachings....woman are sub class and the cause of humanities ills.



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