The ‘BASALT FLOOR’ Giza Plateau Smoking Gun Evidence of LOST ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

a reply to: JamesTB

I thought that it was the part where you avoid all the questions, run off and make another thread.

Could you explain the presence of these marks on stone work worldwide, from Egyptian Obelisks to the lesser of the Stone Circles in the UK (yep, not just Stone Henge)

There have been some workable suggestions provided as to how the abrasion/tool marks appeared on the rocks, using tech and materials that we know the AE's posessed - could you comment on those?

There is data regarding the cutting of stone with copper and abrasives, could you comment on that?

Could you make a suggestion as to the tool that produced the marks, as well as the potential materials it possibly was made from and how it was possibly powered?

a reply to: JamesTB

From www.evawaseerst.be...

... we are limiting our list because we almost only wrote about the great pyramid. But there are many other mysteries even about the great pyramid. And there are uncountable mysteries about other ‘holy places’. We cannot mention them all. just only two of them as a bonus: First, why all that mica in the pyramid of the sun in Mexico? (Mica also has to do something with frequencies.) Second: Why all those marks that hints to an advanced machinery on the basalt rocks of the Giza plateau? (Basalt is harder than granite.)

By the way: Basalt has special connections to electricity: hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...


Ancient Egypt had not the technology to do what school books are saying. Just look at the bigger picture:
www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk...

In so many places around the world we see the same remnants. And never an indication of how the civilization did the job. (But if you are not convinced you have our respect anyway.)

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

I thought that it was the part where you avoid all the questions, run off and make another thread.

Could you explain the presence of these marks on stone work worldwide, from Egyptian Obelisks to the lesser of the Stone Circles in the UK (yep, not just Stone Henge)

There have been some workable suggestions provided as to how the abrasion/tool marks appeared on the rocks, using tech and materials that we know the AE's posessed - could you comment on those?

There is data regarding the cutting of stone with copper and abrasives, could you comment on that?

Could you make a suggestion as to the tool that produced the marks, as well as the potential materials it possibly was made from and how it was possibly powered?

I simply present the evidence these days.

I don't believe that the Dynastic Egyptians produced this work as they didn't have the tools to do it.

I believe that they inherited it from a far superior civilization.

If you really want to educate yourself on this subject watch some Yousef Awyan videos and talks. He is the son of Abd’el Hakim Awyan a local oath keeper in Egypt. He grew up playing on the Giza Plateau and I take his wisdom, experience and knowledge above over all others.

a reply to: JamesTB

It's a discussion site, not a post and run site James. You are refusing to consider evidence presented by others, while asking that others consider yours.

That's just weak.

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

I thought that it was the part where you avoid all the questions, run off and make another thread.
Could you explain the presence of these marks on stone work worldwide, from Egyptian Obelisks to the lesser of the Stone Circles in the UK (yep, not just Stone Henge)

There have been some workable suggestions provided as to how the abrasion/tool marks appeared on the rocks, using tech and materials that we know the AE's posessed - could you comment on those?

There is data regarding the cutting of stone with copper and abrasives, could you comment on that?

Could you make a suggestion as to the tool that produced the marks, as well as the potential materials it possibly was made from and how it was possibly powered?

Am I supposed to beg your pardon for making interesting and thought provoking threads?

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

It's a discussion site, not a post and run site James. You are refusing to consider evidence presented by others, while asking that others consider yours.

That's just weak.

Not true. I make my position CLEAR in my opening post and until I see something which changes my position then I see no reason to carry on posting.

a reply to: JamesTB

You are really meant to discuss your OP with folk, examine evidence and so forth, rather than sticking your fingers in your ears.

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

You are really meant to discuss your OP with folk, examine evidence and so forth, rather than sticking your fingers in your ears.

Then read my threads and you will see that I do and have done many many times.

Every thread gets derailed with the old copper chisels/saws/stone pounders ect ect.

I simply don't believe that and don't see the point in getting into protracted posting wars with people who don't agree with me.

Each to their own.

originally posted by: JamesTB

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

It's a discussion site, not a post and run site James. You are refusing to consider evidence presented by others, while asking that others consider yours.

That's just weak.

Not true. I make my position CLEAR in my opening post and until I see something which changes my position then I see no reason to carry on posting.

But from your OP:

So maybe it’s time to move the debate past the ‘is it/isn’t it - are they/aren’t they’ type of paradigm and into the highly speculative ‘who/when and with what’ paradigm. I think we have to speculate wildly about how this work was done because it does not fit into any of the common explanations we been told about.

But why not take part in that wild speculation of who/when and with what?

If you hadn't noticed, quite a few of us have been doing that from various standpoints.

You really dont HAVE to curate your own thread, but it's good form James and it makes you part of the process of trying to find answers and increase the possibilities/options for all of us to consider. Sure it's a bit shouty here sometimes, but there is a heap of worthwhile info/debate from various sides in the thread. It's ok to take part.

originally posted by: JamesTB

Is this the part where you repeat the foolish notion that they used stone pounders to pound out the unfinished obelisks in the Aswan quarry?

Who, me? Certainly not!

I wouldn't waste my time with people such as yourself who make the purposeful decision to maintain a level of ignorance that can only be described as epic.

Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB
Am I supposed to beg your pardon for making interesting and thought provoking threads?

That depends.

We'll let you know when we see one of those.

Harte

I read a lot of the responses. But I didn't see anyone mention water cutting. Does this seem to be a viable conclusion? There are many ways to create high pressure shots of water that could make these cuts.

a reply to: Rtmechanic

It did rate one mention.

I've no experience doing it with stone, but i have had a try with artistic glass work.

I would not say that it would make any of the marks we see on the stones though.

Which is enough to discount it in this case, IMO.

ETA: and welcome o/

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Wolfenz

I don't know what you're asking me, if English isn't your first language, that's fine..are you asking for images of blocks being cutby ancient Egyptians?

I think the quarries themselves are better evidence, they found tools and sleds to move the blocks.

So where are the paintings and carving of the aliens helping them out?

What ??

you have the photos of the sleds that were used !

or you were referring to just one Carving of a Bunch of Egyptians or slaves hauling & dragging a Stature on sand on a sled with a water boy pouring water in front of the Sled ??? from a Wall Painting/carving

What about the rest of the stone blocks to build the pyramid.. being dragged and Hoisted up to the top of the Pyramid ?

and how far is the Quarries ? and they were found at the Quarried Site's These Tools... ?

Yes I Am asking the the evidence of from Carvings to the Actual Tools Used ....

Aliens ? I said Advanced Humans ...

Well there is Aliens !! Helping them Out lol.. they were always There right in front of you... The Egyptians Consider them as Gods // Deity's that look like Just US !! LOL....

You Know... as As Ra... Bast Seth Anubis Horus etc... Suppose Being's NOT From This Earth.... Not from this Plane...


and what about the Sumerians Gods ??

kinda Funny Both the Egyptian and Sumerians / Assyrians have Winged Gods !! or Winged Contraptions A Metaphor of Flying !! .... or the Sphere with Wings Called Aton ... as some refer it as SOl aka Our Son...


Sorry about the Grammar ... i have a auto correct .. I know what you mean LOL.. there .. Their Feet... Feat... Opps...

I have to ask but...woudnt using sand and copper leave un even cut marks instead of smooth and straight ones? You know since sand isnt all uniform.

originally posted by: yuppa
I have to ask but...woudnt using sand and copper leave un even cut marks instead of smooth and straight ones? You know since sand isnt all uniform.

Thats what I thought also ...


unless they smoothed each side of the block afterwords... in some precise way...

maybe something with vibration perhaps

originally posted by: yuppa
I have to ask but...woudnt using sand and copper leave un even cut marks instead of smooth and straight ones? You know since sand isnt all uniform.

Think sand paper it going to make a very smooth cut. That's why Chinese used it to cut jade.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't get why they'd carve images of stonemasons using stonemasons' tools but not carve images of alien visitors helping them?! Major failure in logic there

Good question, but in that case we'd also have to ask: isn't it strange that ancient egyptians described almost every aspect of their daily life on almost every free space they could find using a plethora of glyhps and artwork standing in such a stark contrast to the fine cut megaliths?

And then they don't dedicate a single glyph to the construction of the pyramids, a truly genuine feat that's still marvelled at by modern humans without us having figured out how it was done? I think this ought to be taken into account when trying to solve the equation ...

I don't know why, but I always felt that a large rotating friction blade was used - a sort of circular saw. The radius of the blade would not need to be much larger than half the size of the biggest cut stone. Basalt chips, sand, any coarse angular aggregate could be used as the actual "teeth". An axle, pulleys and ropes, and a sliding work table are all that would be needed and all were known and in use at the time. Copper blades and stone pounders would be used to clear the cutting groove of excess debris so water, or some other lubricant, could flow properly and keep the blade alive as long as possible. This subject never seemed like a mystery to me.

originally posted by: jeep3r

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't get why they'd carve images of stonemasons using stonemasons' tools but not carve images of alien visitors helping them?! Major failure in logic there

Good question, but in that case we'd also have to ask: isn't it strange that ancient egyptians described almost every aspect of their daily life on almost every free space they could find using a plethora of glyhps and artwork standing in such a stark contrast to the fine cut megaliths?

And then they don't dedicate a single glyph to the construction of the pyramids, a truly genuine feat that's still marvelled at by modern humans without us having figured out how it was done? I think this ought to be taken into account when trying to solve the equation ...

Maybe the Pharaoh thought it was low budget to put up diagrams about how they built his monument? Maybe they didn't want to share how they built the greatest monument in the World at that time? Any number of logical reasons beyond "They used technology from an unknown civilization that has left not one trace of its existence anywhere and they used this advanced technology solely to build these monuments." Seems like if there were advanced technology they would have found much greater uses for it, not the least of which would have been allowing people to pay them to do quality work for them with technology known only to them. Seems like others would also have written about this mysterious work as well and wondered how they did it.