The ‘BASALT FLOOR’ Giza Plateau Smoking Gun Evidence of LOST ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Don't know. But what I am confident about is, those cuts were done quickly. AND that my friend, and to all ATS members here, is the piece de resistance.

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight
Was an experiment.

Thousands of people to do it, plenty of time to master, the Egyptians were not idiots.

I've a question:

It seems logical that IF copper saws were indeed used, there would be quite a lot of copper tailings in the soil around these sites...Has that ever been found to be the case?

If not it would seem to indicate that copper wasn't used at all. But, I'm betting that anything like that was never looked for...making the investigation a little less than complete.

Anyway, there should be serious quantity of loose copper around those places...

ETA: One should also expect to see copper imbedded in the granite or basalt where they were cut...

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: FlySolo

Looks like 'Lazer' cutting or 'Diamond' and 'Quartz'.

Were these materials available in the area?

Could the materials have been bought over from a different area?? boat? of course.

Similar to the tools used to slice that Mountain in Peru.

Vein deposits of silica quartz have been identified in about 38 localities in the central part of the Eastern Desert of Egypt. Reserves in the area have been estimated to be about Gt and to range between 98% and 99.3% SiO2.

Source

Plenty of Quartz. I can't find info on Diamonds being mined/found in Egypt, but there are ofc plenty of deposits elsewhere in Africa and like you say it's a simple matter to import them. Lots of other Gemstones were mined in Egypt:

According to Pliny's Natural History, 37.17, emeralds were extracted from the hills in the vicinity of Coptos, a city of Thebais as was charchedonia, possibly Egyptian jasper (ibidem 37.30); amethyst, beryl, possibly lapis lazuli [9] and other precious or semi-precious stones were also mined and worked.

I'll resist being dragged off topic re: Peru

Wow, I operate a 5-axis CNC machine, and I have to admit, those pictures definetly show some kind of tooling marks, When I cut through 3/4"glass, at around 12,000 rpm with a diamond bit, the cut surface looks very similar. lines are left by the actual tool itself cutting with a router, then to get rid of the lines you must go back with alternative tooling. very cool pics

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: KnightLight

Doesn't that interest you as well.

I marvel at it so often and it seems to be the same thing with
the same people in many other topics. So I have concluded that
they are frightened of a world not being exactly as they were
told it is. I think it's very scary to them for some reason where
it isn't to you and me. The world at a glance is not what we are told.
Some will not go there.

There is truth to this. I personally have never really understood why people are so adamantly against all kinds of alternative ideas. IT is one thing if the ideas are really out there and improbable (read David Icke's reptilian agenda). But ideas such as there being for example nefarious military-industrial complexes or empire building in our foreign policy, or maybe even that our civilization is a bit older than we think, are not "crazy" ideas. And entirely possible.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

The pyramids were built before the Hebrews entered Egypt(or at least that's the common date), so there couldn't be
hundred of thousands of slaves.

Anyway, Abraham bore Isaac at 100, Isaac bore Jacob at 60, Jacob entered Egypt at 130 years old, that's 215 years before the Hebrews in Egypt started to populate. When Jacob entered Egypt, he had 70 descendants(including granddaughters, etc.) When the Exodus happened, 600,000 Hebrews left Egypt. It is believed that there were 405 years from the Exodus to when Abraham bore Isaac:

answersingenesis.org...

Now if you look at the population growth rate in history, you'll see that it takes a long time to change by one 0, so it seems to me that to jump from 70 to 600,000 in just 190 years is unrealistic. That means that to me, the date in which Abraham bears Isaac or enters Canaan must be off by hundred of years, maybe even up to 1000(keep in mind that Exodus is no longer written by the chosen descendants of Noah. Even with the traditional dates, there's clearly a gap there between Joseph and Moses that is more than one Pharaoh.) If we move the Flood back by at least 200 years, it's consistent with every other date.

IMO, the Egyptians were influenced by the Reptilians(I think Anubis was actually a Reptilian, but the drawing is so that they escape Yahweh's attention), who seemed to have a beef with Yahweh and his "descendants."

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Don't know. But what I am confident about is, those cuts were done quickly. AND that my friend, and to all ATS members here, is the piece de resistance.

Why do you suggest they were quickly done? One thing that they did have was man power and time. The simple fact that they had harder compounds available than the rock they were cutting pretty much sums up the whole question can it be done with simple tools.

originally posted by: tanka418

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight
Was an experiment.

Thousands of people to do it, plenty of time to master, the Egyptians were not idiots.

I've a question:

It seems logical that IF copper saws were indeed used, there would be quite a lot of copper tailings in the soil around these sites...Has that ever been found to be the case?

If not it would seem to indicate that copper wasn't used at all. But, I'm betting that anything like that was never looked for...making the investigation a little less than complete.

Anyway, there should be serious quantity of loose copper around those places...

ETA: One should also expect to see copper imbedded in the granite or basalt where they were cut...

Don't know about the ground but copper has been found in the groves. Take a look at photos you can see a green tinge from copper.

originally posted by: np6888

The pyramids were built before the Hebrews entered Egypt(or at least that's the common date), so there couldn't be
hundred of thousands of slaves.

It is estimated that the Greatest one, Khufu's pyramid, took less than 7000 people to build, and they were not slaves, but all skilled craftsmen.

Here is a good estimate of what was needed to do that task.

How many people did it take

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Don't know. But what I am confident about is, those cuts were done quickly. AND that my friend, and to all ATS members here, is the piece de resistance.

Why do you suggest they were quickly done? One thing that they did have was man power and time. The simple fact that they had harder compounds available than the rock they were cutting pretty much sums up the whole question can it be done with simple tools.

Why cut quickly? Just look at it. Do you disagree these are test cuts? And time on your side doesn't mean jobs are done less efficiently. In other words, just because there wasn't facebook or TV back then doesn't equate to more time spent on a job because there's nothing else to do. In fact, it would be prudent to go as fast as possible. More man power doesn't make a task necessarily go faster either. Specifically that particular picture. Horse power would be the better term because that test cut is a one-man job.

I know this thread is about the method, but the maths are far more impressive. Again, Graham Hancock's book is a must read for anyone interested in this.

The mathematical knowledge in the pyramids is astounding. It demonstrates knowledge of mathematical and astronomical principles, some of which I am sure we still do not understand, MO.

(Out of character editorial) Unlike so many of you I don't think anyone cares what I think, nor should they, and try to post only when what I have to add is external information that would actually be of use in a public forum. Towards that end:


What about the star channels. IIRC the mothers chamber? Had tunnels drilled from the room to the
surface through hundreds of blocks. Some archeologists at one time said hey, that's cute, they almost got these channels to point at stars. Then another came along one day and worked back the sky charts and found that they lined up exactly for around 12500 BC. Then another smarty pants figured out that there was a star missing, that should have been included. He figured out where in the chamber it would have arrived and, in the 60s maybe? Whichever time period Egypt was allowing archeological people into giza, he took his chisel and lo and behold, a tunnel behind about 6 inches of rock. This is the tunnel that in the 80's was examined with a camera strapped to a crawling robot. It was found to be a gradually increasing size tunnel that ended in a wooden door with what appeared to be iron bands or handles.

All of this is from memory, condensed from probably 30-60 pages in the book I referred to previously.

So why don't we hear more about these channels. Are all our copper sand guys going to say they drilled through all the blocks in their final place? Or did they drill them one at a time from elaborate mathematical plans and stack the blocks accordingly?

I picture some giant wooden jig holding a 100 meter sagging wooden drilling rod hanging off the side of the pyramid in a gravity defying dance with.... well, it doesn't matter what I think. Notwithstanding, it is clear to me that whomever built them, wanted us to know that the procession of the equinoxes is very significant.

looking at that picture again zoomed in on my computer, those cut marks are very telling. It would appear a 1 inch cut was made with a circular saw judging by the entry marks.


eta: I decided to back up my theory with a google search of " saw cut marks stone" to see what the masonry results are like and I found this:

Notice how crisp and parallel the edges are. The quality of this work indicates that the blade was held completely steady. Apparently, cutting basalt was not so slow and arduous that extra cuts like these would have been avoided as being an unnecessary waste of time.

My thoughts exactly.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: FlySolo



Looks like 'Lazer' cutting or 'Diamond' and 'Quartz'.

Do you have some reason to think that a laser can cut stone in that way?

So me a piece of stone with laser cuts that look like that.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
Similar to the tools used to slice that Mountain in Peru.

If you actually believe a mountain in Peru was sliced, then nevermind.

Harte

a reply to: skalla

Cheers!

I guess I should have browsed the net myself for the answer.

So, there we have it. Quartz was abundant in Eygpt and could have been used.

Just remains to know what happened to the tools??

a reply to: Harte

Well, that Mountain in peru with the nazca Lines does look like it was sliced!!



But anyway, If those cuttngs/indents weren't done more recently, then we should be looking at 'Quartz' for the answer.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

How do you make a quartz circular saw blade?

a reply to: FlySolo

You really have not read the thread, have you?

a reply to: skalla

Nope. Was it already discussed?

a reply to: FlySolo

at length

a reply to: skalla

well I'm at pg 6 now. Not yet really...