Should gay people fight for the right for anti-gay businesses to take their money or just boycott?

a reply to: TechniXcality

Maybe in 20 years you can show your children this post I am sure your wife will be proud.

a reply to: TechniXcality
There is more to being a man than having a package between your legs.

a reply to: Enochstask

I assure you the guilt is only shared amongst your self. I don't have any shame, you don't want to hear the details . Let me ask you what exactly qualifys a man a man?

originally posted by: Enochstask
a reply to: Grimpachi
Any man that does that to a woman is not a man. It's funny when that is brought up the first thing the Gay agenda folks say "is well straight couples do it", that still does not make it right.

A real man wouldn't care what you think.

Honestly, I feel kind of bad for you because somewhere down the line someone screwed you up putting that stuff in your head.

originally posted by: Enochstask
a reply to: TechniXcality

Maybe in 20 years you can show your children this post I am sure your wife will be proud.

In 20 years I don't think his kids are going to be shocked over what he has said however in your case I think that may be different.

If the business won't take their money anyway, then it is not a boycott. Gay people not shopping there won't change a thing if they are not allowed to shop there in the first place! So I guess the real question is should they do nothing at all or take action against this discrimination?

a reply to: MonkeyFishFrog

You have no clue what I've been through "tuts". (Misogynist for ya?) In fact, I'll bet you ten bucks that I'm exactly the kind of person who you're so vehemently trying to defend. (Hint: Much of the social movement directly impacts me.)

I've been homeless, I've been discriminated against, have you? Beyond that little narrow scope you see through? I know what it's like growing up impoverished, and fighting tooth and nail to better my self and situation. As a child, I was lucky enough to get a slice of white bread with mustard which counted for both breakfast and lunch, dinner? What's that?

I never relied on anyone, I didn't (and still don't) need SJW's like you clambering on to the "we're all equal" nonsense and pretending you know what it's like to be me and try to "help" people that look like me. Despite the couple of times I've been discriminated against for my race or sexuality, I've never had an issue with accomplishing my goals.

Thank you for your ignorance in assuming you know everything there is to know, especially regarding the plight of some minorities. (You're education does not equate experience.)

Edited to add: Perhaps you should check your privilege as I didn't have the privilege to spend seven years at university. Nope, I got shafted going to community college and that in itself was an achievement I'm quite happy over.

I say, take their money elsewhere. Their are plenty of businesses that would take their money. It would also show that they are allowing others their freedom to serve whomever they want to. If a owner decides to not serve, it is the same as saying to shoes, no shirts No business.

a reply to: Annee

the rights in the constitution were put there mainly to protect citizens when the majority rules against them though. In many areas of the south the majority were in favor of segregation and such and yet the supreme court seems to have taken their right to rule in that area.

a reply to: 2Spooky4Me

experienced the earning less than the men myself more than once. I finally decided to just take my services back to the homefront than to put up with that kind of crap! I'm paying for it now but still don't regret that decision. it's there but well alot of us aren't in the position to go running to the courts to fight it or well we just don't want to. to me it was more like okay men want it that way let men have it awhile like that! let them work their arses off for awhile. I was hurt and well quite tired anyways. After all working 8 or more hours a day and then coming home to take care of home and kiddies and hubby while they all enjoyed their free time and then trying to life on four hours sleep most nights just didn't jive with a healthy lifestyle that well!

And I can't believe that anyone's feathers are getting ruffled over a pizza shop refusing to cater to a gay wedding? Is our economy that bad that people can't afford anything but a pizza shop to cater their wedding? Sounds rather insane to me. why don't they just go down to mickey's dees and order some bic macs and fries!

I think the while thing is just to get us all centered on the gay rights issues since most of us could really care less either way while these kinds of laws get established, then we will be seeing this extend outward and start affecting other groups like women who by the way still have very little constitutional protections just a bunch of laws that would probably be much easier to set aside for the sake of religion than it would for black or white men!

Why don't they just go to their own 'gay' shops??

That would put a stop a lot of this nonsense!

Go to an Island, build your own 'gay' commuinity and stop trying to force your thoughts/ways of life onto others.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Honey, why does this bother you so much? They are like everybody else, they just want to live their lives. And if they feel they have to fight to do that, then they have to fight. It hasn't been that long ago, looking at the big picture, that American women had to fight to vote! And Rosa Parks had to fight to ride a damn bus in peace!

People must fight sometimes, and often it's the right thing to do.

ot: I was cleaning out a drawer and found my pink-panther watch! I swear it looks like your avy. Taking it this week for a new battery. : )

But yeah, if it were me, I would be "I don't need no stinkin' cake".

But it's not me. People do what they feel they must do, so I'm with 'em! Fight fight fight!

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

To me, they are just as bad as the people they dislike!

A lot of people on this planet just want to live without all this crap going on.

Muslims pushing their Agendas/Religion
Christians did so many years ago
gays trying to push their Agendas on everyone

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Seriously... if you want 'peace of mind' don't come to Planet Earth! This would be my message to any 'Aliens' thinking of coming here

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

gays trying to push their Agendas on everyone

The only agenda I have ever known them to have, is the desire to live their lives like everyone else -- and they should be able to do that. One of the things in life I'm indeed intolerant of, is social injustice. If people are discriminating against others because of their sexual orientation,( which is none of their business to begin with,) then it's a social injustice.

We just can't have that. Can't. Have. That.

Just sayin'. Stay cool. Gotta go walk the dogs.

a reply to: arpgme

I tell everyone to stand up for thier gay rights!

Let's start suing churches for not hosting gay weddings. Let's start suing preachers for not performing gay weddings.

I mean, this is the next logical course of action... right?

originally posted by: EternalSolace
Let's start suing churches for not hosting gay weddings. Let's start suing preachers for not performing gay weddings.

I mean, this is the next logical course of action... right?

Churches/preachers are not and never will be forced to marry anyone in America.

They turn people down all the time for various reasons, like divorce, age difference, or they just don't like them.

A public business is not a church.

a reply to: Annee

It's okay for you to practice your religion until I come along and demand services that contradict your religious views. Screw your freedom! You will serve me while I wipe my bum with your religious convictions! Your only recourse is to close down your business while the government bankrupts you and destroys your life with fines.

/sarcasm /nowaronchristianity /tolerance


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originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: Annee

It's okay for you to practice your religion until I come along and demand services that contradict your religious views. Screw your freedom! You will serve me while I wipe my bum with your religious convictions! Your only recourse is to close down your business while the government bankrupts you and destroys your life with fines.

/sarcasm /nowaronchristianity /tolerance


Disclaimer: You = Generic "You"

Secular government.

Your business is not a church. Keep it to yourself.

a reply to: EternalSolace

and outside of homosexuality, just what convictions do you feel you should be free to assert?
and in what areas? don't like divorce? should that mean that you shouldn't have to make a happy divorce cake for someone or are you hoping that it might get extended so you don't have to rent an apartment for them either?
ya see that's my worry.
personally I have a pretty deep convictions that certain things should be provided for my family long before health insurance is like a roof over my head and food on my table! so me having a job that paid an adequate amount was important to me. and well having the gov't come in and say that I should be taking the grocery money to buy insurance was way off base!
but unfortuately my convictions don't matter that much in that area and I am not a businessowners so I guess I don't have any choice although hobby lobby does when it comes to providing insurance that doesn't provide birth control! and yet if my kids were still kids I would still have to provide the birth control coverage even thought they are my sons!!

the whole danged way things are done are screwed up!! and quite frankly I don't worry about the danged businessowners convictions that much when they don't seem to have enough conviction to provide a decent wage to most of the employees in this country-- especially if they are female!