The earth is flat?

i do not get it y do people think the earth is flat.there is ahrd evenidance it is not they just choose to think it.

Originally posted by ngage
i do not get it y do people think the earth is flat.there is ahrd evenidance it is not they just choose to think it.

people will believe what they want to believe. strange phenomena.

I had a client who spent his entire life trying to prove that einstein's theories were wrong. wasted his whole life and all of his money for nothing. He truly believed the man was wrong about everything.

i know im not saying they cannot think what they want to think but y try to prove soemhting what has been proven what is true.i dont get it

Surprisingly enough, some scientists are thinking the same thing. Back when I could afford a subscription to Scientific American there was an article about how the universe may actually exist only in two dimensions, while we just percieve the third. This would, technically, make the Earth flat.

I'll try and find the article online. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please back me up.


EDIT: Found what I was talking about, both the article and a brief overview on another website.
Scientific American: Information in the Holographic Universe
Is Our Universe a Gigantic Hologram?

[edit on 12/21/2004 by cmdrkeenkid]

Originally posted by Nygdan
The bible talks about the sun being stopped in its path, which at least indicates that it was thought to move around the earth, but some apologists will insist that this means the exact oppposite. Similarly, in the bible, the sky and the heavens are said to be valuted above the earth and held up like that. This isn't something that one would even think of if one knew that the earth were round. Also, the NT notes that jesus was taken to a high place and shown every where on earth. This is not possible on a round earth. And also, there is often an issue made of a translation of a hebrew word for the earth, apparently its lug or something like that. The claim is that it means 'ball', ie the earth is a ball. However apparentlly the word is better translated as 'circle', which does not mean 'spherical'. And that word is also only used elsewhere in the bible as meaning circle, like a wheel, not a round ball of something.

The problem with Christianity, in my humble opinion, is that they marginalize the role of the writers, who according to Christian theology, had 100% free will to write anything they wanted, nomatter what God told them.
I am not entirely convinced one way or another about religion. There are definately many misunderstandings of the bible- this book as been institutionalized and used for so many political purposes for so long that many many interpretations and assumptions have been tacked on to it which hold no water at all. On the other hand I believe that most theories of origin run into the same roadblock: infinity. In that sense, a creator of some sort holds just about as much water as any other theory. I also believe that most life forms imply design, however thats another thread- and a very long one I bet. Back to the problems with Chistianity being said to support this or that given claim...

We pretty much know that primitive men wrote the bible. We don't know how. Did God dictate it word for word? Did God show the writer stuff and let him word it his own way? Did God just subconciously inspire the writer along certain lines? Did the writer do it all on his own but his work is accurate enough to be considered cannonical (this is the case with at least a few NT books)? Did ETs give it to us? Did a drunk shepherd make it up as a camp fire story about how great his ancestors were? No telling for sure, but most of those theories do leave the opening for the understandings of primitive man to have been written in, regardless of what was actually revealed.
Suppose that I went back in time and showed Moses a revolver. As the I pull the trigger, the hammer goes back, then it slams forward and a projectile is fired. Moses might write that he has seen a sling whereby the most insignifcant strike of this little hammer propels a rock with amazing force.
Of course it wasn't a sling and it didn't fire a rock, and the hammer wasn't what actually did the work. Moses just wouldn't understand the principles governing what he saw, so he'd phrase it in terms which matched his previous understanding.

If Moses had previously thought the sky was vaulted over a high earth, and God said he created the sky (or even showed him the whole earth) Moses still may not have been shown that the Earth is round- only told that God put the sky where it is, or moses might have looked at the sky around a spherical earth and said "that's really wierd- i wonder how that is vaulted up there." Seeing is not comprehending, as anyone who has ever tried to convince me of anything certainly knows.

Anyone who has been in a plane can surely see very clearly for themselves the earth's curvature.

Yep...

Reminds me of an old Bugs Bunny Cartoon....

Chris Columbus: (pointing to a globe) She's a round a lika you head!
The King of Spain: (after smashing his scepter, flattening Chris' head) She's flat like your head.....!!!

Originally posted by Gazrok
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Reminds me of an old Bugs Bunny Cartoon....

Chris Columbus: (pointing to a globe) She's a round a lika you head!
The King of Spain: (after smashing his scepter, flattening Chris' head) She's flat like your head.....!!!

LMAO @ Gazrok!!! I remember it very well (though it was the French version I saw)

I think it is more than very obviously stupid to be convinced today that the earth is flat... We even photos from space of our planet!

Oh wait! This is a hoax also? Someone has been faking those pictures??

Originally posted by SpookyVince
I think it is more than very obviously stupid to be convinced today that the earth is flat... We even photos from space of our planet!

Oh wait! This is a hoax also? Someone has been faking those pictures??

Oh god, dont go there with the flat earth people. they think that gravity bends light and makes the flat earth look round. Some also argue that the world is some kind of cylinder or hollow spherical sheet with open top and bottom.
Admiral Byrd's oft-cited "beyond the pole" choice of words fuels their fire, as does some obscure antarctic adventurer I dont recall details of, who I thought at the time may have been a complete fiction.

this is an interesting answer in the FAQ i read on flat-earth.org

11. Does this fit in with the Hollow Earth theory?
Yes. Beneath the Earth, or hanging off the edges, is a land populated by either green-skinned women or Nazis. All those claiming to have seen this have misinterpreted it to fit in with the spurious and false Spherical Earth theory.

If Charles K. Johnson and Marjory Waugh Johnson of the "Flat Earth Society" truly believe that the Earth is flat, than my best wishes to them in their soulful journey to find the edge, And Walk Off!! I just can't believe that these people STILL believe in this crap!

i looked through the entirety of the flat earth society website one day when board...

interesting fact of theres, a few places don't exsist to them, one of them being australia (yes the entire continent) although interesting enough a simple whois on the domain comes up with it being registered to some guy... in australia

interesting :-P

Having had a good browse around the site, I'm convinced that it's a piss-take and that they don't seriously believe that the earth is flat.

It seems to be all done in an amusing and 'Pythonesque' way.

Funniest thing I've ever heard. A load of BS for sure...

Originally posted by TKainZero
dont forget the people that think the earth is the center of the universe

It is in a infinite univerces every point must be the center making earth the certer of the uniververse(alonge wtith ever were else)

I always thought kind of that! If we don't know how big the universe is [infinite] then every location is the center...

flat earth.org is a joke site. They claim a few places don't exist and they claim that every springfield is the same. Springfield? Simpsons' home town? coincidence?

The ludicrous site registered in australia and denying australias exisentence is a b/s site. However, there is and international flat earth society, not associated with that website. They are serious.

Originally posted by Nygdan
The ludicrous site registered in australia and denying australias exisentence is a b/s site. However, there is and international flat earth society, not associated with that website. They are serious.

Yes, they are serious at selling crap...

[edit on 22-12-2004 by SpookyVince]

seriously deranged.

I can just see Bush trying to get all the flat earth books introduced into Texas schools.