The Immortal Cabal Ruling Our Planet

a reply to: St Udio

then explain about Misters SOROS and Rickards' doing yeoman's effort to be vociferous and public

while also being the hidden-hand in many control-the-masses focused dealings

I can't. But am willing to learn about it… (?)

To the thread. In general I don't lay so much to names or personages as I do the spirits behind them. They change hosts down through the ages, influencing the world, hidden away, as it were. They know who they are and who each other is…

Kind of like (now, I said kinda)…

the movies "The Hidden" and that other one with Will Smith(?) where the spirit transfers body to body by merely touching a person?

As a final note, it seems clear the cabal needs a foreign-born US President to ensure the last phase of implementing NAFTA (one continent, one country aka market), and to ensure the success of other such "free" trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Cruz might be the one, maybe not, but it WILL happen. And when it does...



Canadian-born Ted Cruz, Texas Senator, to Launch U.S. Presidential Bid

originally posted by: Merinda
Somehow you failed to tie in those corporations to the families they are supposedly to stand in for.

Right. The individuals and families are now irrelevant. It's the "fronts" that are immortal - the corporations and the legal system of global corporate government created by "free" trade deals. ...Who cares who's playing the system? It's the system that's the problem.

originally posted by: Merinda

Somehow you failed to tie in those corporations to the families they are supposedly to stand in for. Corporations can be owned by anybody who buys the stock, of course some own more stock than others.

The big corporations are all "owned" by the "stockholders".

Most of the "stockholders" are big institutions.

Many own stock in each other.

Yahoo finance has the info.

Notice here Bank of America (symbol BAC) has "direct" holders with a few hundred thousand shares.

Note however that some big institutions have a few hundred MILLION shares !!!!

search by stock symbol for other banks and corporations and you will see the same pattern.


BAC Major Holders


The "individuals" have very little say in policies.

The big institutions have some of the same "advisory staff" committees for ALL their corporate stock holdings.

The big institutions are all "private" and do not disclose WHO actually calls the shots !!!

Many are big time MBA's and London schooled professionals.

They remain "cloaked" and are some of the same people advising the governments worldwide.

These people are agents for the real Powers That Be.......for real.

Very well structured and very very secretive.

Any time we see a real name of a real person, you can be certain that they are mid and low level scapegoats.

The genuine power is concealed.......

STATE STREET CORPORATION is a major player and manipulator of the game.


State Street Corporation, or just simply State Street is a U.S. based financial services holding company. State Street was founded in 1792, and is headquartered in the Financial District area of Boston at One Lincoln Street.[2] State Street has offices in major financial centers throughout the world.

State Street Bank and Trust Company, a custodian bank, and its sister company State Street Global Advisors (SSgA), which is a leading registered investment advisor, together comprise the principal operating companies within parent company State Street Corporation.

State Street Global Advisors

These are some of the people who actually decide how, when, and who the next mergers will be....
including nations and groups like the European Union, etc.

It is all about the money.....nothing else phases these bad boys.


London based Rothschilds are major holders of the holders.

The Rothschilds have their own bank in one of those British tax haven places....

Rothschild Bank International is based in Guernsey and offers a range of private client banking services to high net worth individuals based in the UK or elsewhere in the world and works closely with other parts of the Rothschild Group

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: soficrow

What surprises me is not where we are but how the hell we got here. There use to be a monopolies commission that stopped companies combining etc in the interests of the public and dare I say fairness to free competition etc.

Where hell did that body disappear to? and more importantly why isn't it stopping this kind of thing or has it itself been effectively stopped?

There were many things that have occurred since the 1980's. The signing of NAFTA, the repeal of Glass-Steagal, deregulation of various industries has led to what we have now.

In the mid 90's the FCC overturned a law that limited how many radio stations a corporation could own. As a result, all the small, indie stations got eaten up by just a few huge companies and now all radio is the same homogenous crap.

You can thank our duly elected politicians for selling out the people every chance they got.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I see two arguments on ATS:

1. The government is evil!

2. Corporations are evil!

So ATS -- which is it? Which regime would you rather live under? Oppression from "the company" or "the man"?

People fail to realize that it's the same outcome in either extreme. There has to be a balance between private industry and government involvement.

Yes, and neither is inherently evil.

However, what a "corporatetocracy" means is a fundamental merger of corporation and state, usually behind the scenes... We have that now. It's what used to be called the "Military-industrial complex."

Actually it's called Fascism.

a reply to: xuenchen

Brilliant overview. Thanks xuenchen.

originally posted by: toolgal462

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: soficrow

What surprises me is not where we are but how the hell we got here. There use to be a monopolies commission that stopped companies combining etc in the interests of the public and dare I say fairness to free competition etc.

Where hell did that body disappear to? and more importantly why isn't it stopping this kind of thing or has it itself been effectively stopped?

There were many things that have occurred since the 1980's. The signing of NAFTA, the repeal of Glass-Steagal, deregulation of various industries has led to what we have now.

In the mid 90's the FCC overturned a law that limited how many radio stations a corporation could own. As a result, all the small, indie stations got eaten up by just a few huge companies and now all radio is the same homogenous crap.

You can thank our duly elected politicians for selling out the people every chance they got.

And the main point is, it's all legal. Meaning it laws were removed or put in place to allow it all.

a reply to: soficrow
In answer to your answer, here:

a reply to: tetra50


Seems like you are halfway there:
So, the corporation was a method to provide that immortal system, by which we just spun a circle in time, instead of ever moving forward, supposedly while “they searched for the elusive “elixir of life.” “

Have they found that, and if they did, then what would happen? I am wondering. These are the questions that we now linger upon…..

Do you really think individual mortality is more relevant than an immortal global corporate government protected by an impenetrable tangle of international laws?

Yes, I really do. In your OP, you stated it, included it, so you must not be sidetracked by the knowledge of the existence of the impenetrable global corporation, for that's what it is: something to sidetrack you.

That imprenetrable global corporation cannot experience life as it exists. It can only react to it, just to keep itself in power, but it will never experience, through a body, what it means to be alive. This is far more important than you think it is. There is no other point to being alive.
tetra

originally posted by: soficrow

originally posted by: karl 12

originally posted by: nerbot

Unless we, the individuals, each do SOMETHING to resist the corporate world, however small, we are just easy pickings for being controlled.

What do you do?

Campaigning for corporations to stop being seen in the eyes of the law as 'just one person' would be a great start
See 2:20

Yes. Found this: AbolishCorporatePersonhoodNow.

Yes think that's the one thing they're scared of mate.

As well as other places it looks like the state of Wisconsin is also doing it's bit.

A Dozen Wisconsin Communities Challenge Corporate Personhood With Vote to Overturn Citizens United

'We the people want a democracy, not a corporatocracy,' organizer says

Wisconsin residents in 12 communities will vote next week on whether to amend the U.S. Constitution to overturn Citizens United, end corporate personhood, and get big money out of politics.

In Citizens United v. the Federal Election Commission, the U.S. Supreme Court found that corporations have a First Amendment right to spend unlimited amounts of money to influence the outcome of elections..


"The Supreme Court changed the meaning of the 1st Amendment, and we want it changed back," added Mary Laan, the Move to Amend leader in Milwaukee County.

Should the non-binding measures pass, these communities will join more than 40 others in Wisconsin that have already endorsed such an amendment, along with 16 state legislatures and almost 600 towns, villages, cities, counties, and organizations across the country..

link

Others:

Vid

The City Council of Los Angeles unanimously passed a resolution calling on Congress to amend the Constitution and strip corporations of their personhood. Other cities and counties have taken similar actions including Boulder, Colorado - Missoula, Montana - Madison, Wisconsin - Dane County, Wisconsin - and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania..

Maybe this is one of the reasons why corporate entities are so eager to 'sponsor' politicians and policy makers.

a reply to: soficrow

Good grief. Have you any idea -at all- how much privacy you give up with every little business transaction you make? How much raw data on your personal health, work history and everything else about you is accumulated from your birth - and filed with insurance and re-insurance companies? And sold for profit to interested parties?

Yes, I do.

But your premise is sensationalist. Companies "mine data" that is useless outside of marketing strategies. They don't care about you they just want to study high-level information so they can better sell products.

I am not afraid of corporations. If a company wants you to buy a product they create ads so that interested parties may make the choice to purchase it. If government wants you to buy a product they make it illegal for you not to purchase it.

I actually know Who wields the real power.

a reply to: CranialSponge

Governments (ie: politicians) are bought and paid for... they have been for several decades now.

Exactly!

You just admitted that corporations have no real power and they have to bribe the people with the actual power: government.

Corporations specialize in selling products.
Governments specialize in the organization of power.

Hence my belief that governments are more dangerous than corporations.

a reply to: jacobe001

Correction - Big Business buys politicians to do it.
No difference

There never would have been any bail outs, Obamacare or numerous wars if it were not for Big Business Lobbyists.

If businesses are so powerful, why do they have to bribe government officials??

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: jacobe001

Correction - Big Business buys politicians to do it.
No difference

There never would have been any bail outs, Obamacare or numerous wars if it were not for Big Business Lobbyists.

If businesses are so powerful, why do they have to bribe government officials??

To play the charade

originally posted by: shasta9600

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: jacobe001

Correction - Big Business buys politicians to do it.
No difference

There never would have been any bail outs, Obamacare or numerous wars if it were not for Big Business Lobbyists.

If businesses are so powerful, why do they have to bribe government officials??

To play the charade

When the greeter fella at Wal-Mart kicks in my door, beats and arrests for selling coke--I'll cede your point.

a reply to: intrptr
That would be "Jump" with Denzel Washington... Great movie!😁

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: jacobe001

Correction - Big Business buys politicians to do it.
No difference

There never would have been any bail outs, Obamacare or numerous wars if it were not for Big Business Lobbyists.

If businesses are so powerful, why do they have to bribe government officials??

Because they aren't two separate entities. You do know what fascism is don't you?

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

Corporations specialize in selling products.

Governments specialize in the organization of power.

Hey one day they might be one in the same.

Campaign stunt launches a corporate 'candidate' for Congress

After the Supreme Court declared that corporations have the same rights as individuals when it comes to funding political campaigns, the self-described progressive firm took what it considers the next logical step: declaring for office.

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: CranialSponge

Governments (ie: politicians) are bought and paid for... they have been for several decades now.

Exactly!

You just admitted that corporations have no real power and they have to bribe the people with the actual power: government.

Corporations specialize in selling products.
Governments specialize in the organization of power.

Hence my belief that governments are more dangerous than corporations.

No.

It simply means that governments have become corporate puppets.

The puppet master is the dangerous one, not the puppet.

When a politician is bought and paid for, he/she becomes a 'stockholder' (per se) of said corporation. What I mean is the politician then works on behalf of the corporation, for the benefit of the corporation, and only for the corporation... just like a stockholder would.

If they didn't work on behalf of the corporation(s) that put them in their seat in the first place, they wouldn't be holding that office position for very long.



Governments (ie: entire countries) now have one helluva balancing act on their hands because they no longer only have to keep the citizens happy and content, they now have to keep their corporate overlords happy and content as well.

... all the while trying to keep a viable economy going.

... whilst they're having to pay their overlords out the back door.


Them guvermint folks sure iz smart.





Edit to add:

Corporations specialize in selling products.

Corporations no longer just specialize in selling products, they now specialize in running countries too.

originally posted by: SmokeyDawn
a reply to: intrptr
That would be "Jump" with Denzel Washington... Great movie!😁

Ahh, many thanks, I been looking to see that again.