San Francisco Catholic church installs watering system to drench homeless people as they sleep

originally posted by: ketsuko
But this is Cali ... the land of the oh-so-compassionate progressives ... I guess they all voted for a welfare state so these people have no reason to be homeless. After all, every single one of the people in that church not only got taxed to within an inch of their life to pay for a large state welfare system, including Obamacare in all its phases (so their health care is FREE), but they also must surely tithe to the Catholic Church so there are Catholic Charities available for the homeless too.

So of course those homeless folks have plenty of places to go and state programs available to them.

/sarc

Cali is unique. I have landed in LA and seen extreme poverty while going all the way to the top of Hollywood hills and seeing the extreme opposite.

a reply to: Snarl

I too have been homeless, relying on the kindness of others but it was back in the time when there seemed to be more empathy for the poor and sick. My homelessness was a direct of my alcoholism and it was a rough road back to sanity.
I have opened my home to other homeless alcoholics as well; sometimes they sobered up and sometimes they didn't and ripped me off. I still help my fellow man when I can; usually financially as I have been blessed with abundance beyond my wildest dreams.

a reply to: olaru12

Actually it's sorta Protestant to blame one's bad situation on not loving God... enough...

But, anyway, if just a mere fraction of Christians actually acted how their creed dictates, the world would be a much different place than it is.

Hypocrisy is always ugly.

That's not a Christian church. Christian churches help the homeless.

I would like to point out something that I have noticed and puts a smile on my face.

When I first joined ATS this type of thread would've had A LOT more pro Catholic/Christianity people jumping on and making up excuses and defending the church. There is hardly any of that going on, which is just awesome.

It's a beautiful thing to live in a time of awakening and mindfulness. The days of saying one thing and living a completely different life is coming to an end. Majority of religion is nothing more then a control of the sheeple. To preach and preach and preach a set of beliefs to only do the exact opposite all the time is plain crazy; and it's just plain crazy that it has lasted so long.


I mean cmon guys lets be real here, Jesus would've installed the sprinklers too because he was always throwing rocks at those less fortunate then him and those who were gay right? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

20 or so more years, once all the baby boomers are eating worms the Vatican will be a Casino town.

a reply to: Sremmos80 religions aren't taxed thats why so many crooked individuals claim to be preachers so they aren't taxed.

a reply to: staple

Yep. Just look at Downtown LA, the Business District, where the Fashion District and Skid Row share the same streets and alleys, where business men wearing diamond Rolex watches are stepping over homeless bodies passed out on the sidewalks and in the gutters, to get to their shops where they're selling Armani Suits.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: flammadraco
How very Christian!

I'm not religious one iota, but several parts of the Christian bible teaches how to treat the homeless. Let's have a look what our good friend Leviticus had to say on the matter!

Leviticus 25:35-36 ESV / “If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you.

Another example of "Cafeteria Christians".

So we're quoting Leviticus now? Who would've thunk it lol.

Ironic isn't it!

Unfortunately one has to use scripture to make a point, especially about the hypocrisy of "some" religious folk, and guess what? - I found another example of scripture about hypocrisy;

James 1:26-27 ESV / If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

I think the above text would be very appropriate for "some" members on ATS.

It's amazing how one can use scripture to prove a point even for a Deist like me

The SF Arch Diocese has backed down, apologized, and removed the sprinklers that sprayed the homeless.

To little, to late....Their reputation has been damaged beyond repair.

www.rawstory.com...

a reply to: olaru12

Disregard the drought...nothing to see here.

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’Matthew 25:40""

Maybe they thought they were seven year old boys and wanted to clean them up before they molested them.

originally posted by: buster2010
But she has absolutely nothing to do with this.

She most certainly does, because the District that Pelosi represents does this. I guess they are attempting to clean the feces and urine off the streets. It sure would not be a nice thing to wake up to on a cold San Francisco night. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: Imightknow

What makes me shake my head though, is the fact that you are all indignant as a GROUP, I do not think having your front door used as a Party zone by people who DO NOT want to be fixed in any way but want to continue partying, is not something you could handle in front of your house, condo, business.

Where I live a darned good many people I have helped, and talked to and my parents were into ministering to street people my whole life.

These people are using the area as a place to safely get high, and to gather with friends.

But feel good about deriding someone who does not want the doorway crowded with filth, by all means give them everything AND allow them to do every dangerous form of drug and behavior they can and spread disease to everyone!!

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Snarl

I too have been homeless, relying on the kindness of others but it was back in the time when there seemed to be more empathy for the poor and sick. My homelessness was a direct of my alcoholism and it was a rough road back to sanity.
I have opened my home to other homeless alcoholics as well; sometimes they sobered up and sometimes they didn't and ripped me off. I still help my fellow man when I can; usually financially as I have been blessed with abundance beyond my wildest dreams.

God bless you. Thanks for paying it forward. Wish more people were like you.

a reply to: ParasuvO

Then give them a home. Give them shelter and food as stated in the bible.

How can you demonise all homeless people? You know nothing about their situation, why they are homeless in the first place.

There are over 18 million vacant properties in the US and 633,000 homeless folk. Do the math!

Then you have people in San Fransicko like this who enjoy harassing these poor souls. ~$heopleNation

Maybe you should invite them all to sleep on YOUR front yard. That would be no problem, right? Oh, you don't like that idea? You'd be kind of irritated by a bunch of bums on your yard? Gosh...that's strange.

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: ParasuvO

Then give them a home. Give them shelter and food as stated in the bible.

How can you demonise all homeless people? You know nothing about their situation, why they are homeless in the first place.

There are over 18 million vacant properties in the US and 633,000 homeless folk. Do the math!

Great idea. Let's reward failure and a lifetime of bad decisions with free houses. --rolls eyes--

a reply to: jaffo

I hope you never find yourself without a job, unable to pay your mortgage/rent and end up homeless. You'd be surprised how many folk survive pay cheque to pay cheque.

Stop demonising all homeless people as you and I have no idea about their circumstances. Yes I agree that some have made poor decisions in their life, does that mean we as a society give up on them?

A measure of civilisation is how it treats its weakest members of society.

originally posted by: jaffo

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: ParasuvO

Then give them a home. Give them shelter and food as stated in the bible.

How can you demonise all homeless people? You know nothing about their situation, why they are homeless in the first place.

There are over 18 million vacant properties in the US and 633,000 homeless folk. Do the math!

Great idea. Let's reward failure and a lifetime of bad decisions with free houses. --rolls eyes--

Do you know how many of those guys are exmilitary suffering from PTSD? Homeless because their house was repoed, Mentally ill or just temporally down on thir luck? Your assumptions are BS. You know nothing of their history. You just threw any credibility you once had out the window with that kind of baseless, judgmental BS.