Rumor: Putin Has Been Neutralized by a "Stealthy Coup" - Opening Post Updated 9x - Putin Found

a reply to: Nikola014

He missed a meeting, then he must be dead/ preparing a war. It just all sounds unrealistic to me.

What are you expecting on a conspiracy theory website?

Well then please provide your theory since the rest are unrealistic to you?

Twitter is a false rumour service but who knows about Putin now? might just be on holiday or seeing his partner giving birth or just Unwell

Or perhaps there is a coup,and hard line Russians will now take power and react to the Act of war we have aimed at the country with unjust sanctions and blatant lies about Ukraine and Crimea

Got old fart generals on Fox suggesting killing Russians would be good and off course according to the media early on Putin blew that plane up

Russia's the bad guy and the west it's all rainbows and lollipops while our body count overseas keeps on climbing higher

So what if Putin is replaced by an old Russian fart general who sees killing Americans or the western nations troops as good

At least that way Anti Russian posts would have merit unlike the blog started lies we normaly get there

a reply to: Whereismypassword

So what if Putin is replaced by an old Russian fart general who sees killing Americans or the western nations troops as good

At least that way Anti Russian posts would have merit unlike the blog started lies we normaly get there

Wouldn't the Pro-Putin posters have to change gears awfully fast? Would you support some psychotic general who intends to roll tanks all over Western Europe not because of NATO provocation, but because Russia is great and can do what it wants?

a reply to: Nikola014
I cant "admit" that its too much because, it's not. Why do you think its got more attention than Korea? If Jong-un dies, another will take his place and it still wont affect us.

If Putin died on the other hand, the whole world will feel it!

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: opethPA

True, but I don't remember the alleged missing of our friend Kim getting this much of attention on ATS at all. I feel like, it's just the ATS making such a noise from what potentially could be absolutely nothing. I mean, some of the members already have prepared options on what is going on with Putin based on his lack of appearance in the news.

He missed a meeting, then he must be dead/ preparing a war. It just all sounds unrealistic to me.

Probably because North Korea is not a world superpower like Russia is.

I don't think much will come from this. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that everyone was saying the same things about North Korea's new leader ("Waaah! He's gone missing! It must be the generals!"). And Zimbabwe's President Mugabe had a similar situation in January & everyone there freaked out (he's fine). However, it's fun to speculate so I'll join in.

I figure he either had a health issue or is in the war room working on drastic contingency plans. People here in the US might have missed it, but Russia threatened to escalate things drastically if they were cut off from the global SWIFT system. www.forbes.com...
So I can't imagine their leaders would sit back idly as Nato keeps provoking them in multiple Eastern European countries.

With that said, I hope he isn't dead or flushed from power. Russia has a wide political spectrum and there are politicians there that are far more belligerent that Putin. The prospects for peaceful resolutions could decrease drastically is some of these factions were to take over.

originally posted by: Ridhya
a reply to: Nikola014
I cant "admit" that its too much because, it's not. Why do you think its got more attention than Korea? If Jong-un dies, another will take his place and it still wont affect us.

If Putin died on the other hand, the whole world will feel it!

Exactly, DPRK is a joke that is no danger to anyone but its citizens. Russia has the largest, most modern Army in Europe. What's worse, it has a history of civil wars. A civil war could disrupt the European economy... and there is nothing Europe could do about it.

But the trucks and seating, it turned out, are for a concert to celebrate the first anniversary of the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea.

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I'm not so sure I'm buying that... but there are seats and a stage and some other things set up that make it a lot more plausible as to why the trucks are there. There is at least one valid reason that makes sense to explain all of the trucks and the crane.

Remove the trucks from the equation as being a military action, and do you still have a coup? Not so sure...

If Putin's bodyguard is actually missing, if you believe the baby story, it just means the bodyguard is with Putin and his new baby, which easily explains why nobody has seen him.

The simplest explanation is usually the right one. (gotta love Occam and that razor of his!)

~Namaste

originally posted by: xpert11
a reply to: kosmicjack

IMO you are correct. The Murder of Nemtsov is the very tip of the iceberg. I am also reminded of the Night of the Long Knives in Nazi Germany. Fairy early on Hitler consolidated his power by eliminating any would be opposition.

A coup against Putin makes little sense as it would throw the country into a second civil war. Why would Russian military leaders turn against Putin? Like Hitler , Putin's regime is build upon rearmament and restoring national pride after a perceived humiliation. Just swap the Treaty of Versailles for the Fall of the Soviet Union and Putin's words and actions are identical to Hitlers.

His "disappearance" could simply be a ruse to smoke out who among the oligarchs, military and Kremlin types have their own aspirations of power or are even just against Putin's plan for Ukraine...and dispatch them.

Then Putin emerges more fearsome and unopposed, to do as he pleases in the region and beyond.

According to some Russian friends, the general consensus among them is he's with his mistress after the birth of their child.
This would also account for Putin's bodygaurd's whereabouts.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Kim jongs afraid of his own coup he ain't going anywhere. His father had more respect thus why he was more mobile.

originally posted by: butcherguy
Something out of the ordinary is definitely happening at the Kremlin.
Until we hear a public announcement from someone there, all we can do is speculate.
My guess: Putin was taken out of office without bloodshed. He will be executed by injection and the conspirators will blame his death on a stroke. The stroke explanation has already been floated via tweet.
If Putin suffered a natural stroke, I believe the news would have been released soon afterwards. The fact that no official news has been released regarding the issue of his disappearance, the presence of tanks and APC's, no flag over the Kremlin and helicopters in and out of the Kremlin indicates a coup in progress... IMO.

I remember too easily and not that long ago Sharon was given
"the long ride" through the desert and back to Tel Aviv: rather
than a chopper getting hailed for him to minimize the damage
of his "stroke". The reasons were obvious for Ariel, he was
sounding off a little too much about 9/11 being helped along.
I think the major players in the Knesset and elsewhere gave him
a really long headache that turned fatal. I just wonder if Vlad
was sounding off quietly it was time to spill some shinier beans

This virtual blackout is giving all the players an obvious chance
to adjust the narrative, whatever it is. And the back chatter
isn't happy in consideration of all the little brush fires around
the Kremlin lately. I haven't prayed for the good health of any
dictator lately, in disregard of the country he's running: but in
this case I'm pushing as much energy toward the saner heads.
If Putin shows up in a million dollar suit with a S.E. grin over the
'new recruit' from Switzerland I'd be one of the most surprised.

originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
The simplest explanation is usually the right one. (gotta love Occam and that razor of his!)

~Namaste

If you support the notion of Occam's Razor then you would have to admit that the "trucks are a sign" is nonsense. We know about the trucks, we know there's an event planned, the most likely explanation is the one that we already know - the trucks are not a sign of anything other than the setting up of a planned event, which we can even see being set up before our very eyes.

All of this really makes me hope this Russian just had a little too much Vodka.

Conspiracy, ey?
Let's ask how many Putins could possibly show up on monday

from the source

It is obvious that different people in these photographs are shown . In them, earlobes , lips , etc. The difference can not be explained by age-related changes . Yuri Mukhin wrote that real Yeltsin died in 1996 . Just three years reigned his double . Write the foreign mass media that real Putin died later in 2004 . They say it is 6 doubles Putin exist. Who puts these people in power and their doppelgangers after their death?

So you can either believe this picture is from 3 days ago...

As every reverse image search suggests...





Or you can believe Russia deleted every available source from "years ago" when the meeting "supposedly happened"...




Is Putin missing/dead...

Nyet!

Is this laughable speculation...

Da!

originally posted by: DJW001
Exactly, DPRK is a joke that is no danger to anyone but its citizens. Russia has the largest, most modern Army in Europe. What's worse, it has a history of civil wars. A civil war could disrupt the European economy... and there is nothing Europe could do about it.

Largest and most modern Army? I highly doubt it...

Largest, perhaps individually but combined NATO has 3.3 Million under arms to Russia's 800k or so. As for "most modern" - not even close. Yes, they are modernising, but they are an order of magnitude behind NATO technological levels. The only advantage Russia has over Europe is the amount of nukes - on everything else they are outnumbered and outgunned.

As for a history of Civil wars, hmmm... They had one in the 20th century (after the 1917 revolution) and that was it. Unless you mean the smaller, regional rebellions?

As for the OP - not sure what to make of it. It strikes me as somewhat odd, but I am not going to jump to conclusions just yet. However, a coup is not entirely out of the question - such a thing did happen in 1991.

a reply to: Rocker2013

That's exactly what I said in my post.

I never said the trucks were a sign of anything at all, except the celebration event that was pre-planned. If you go with that being the simplest, and probably most accurate explanation, then a majority of the rumors attached to those trucks as a source of conspiracy, evaporates. You're left with only the fact that Putin hasn't been seen, not that it's a coup in progress.

That was the point I was trying to make, but thanks for re-stating what I already wrote.

~Namaste

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
According to some Russian friends, the general consensus among them is he's with his mistress after the birth of their child.
This would also account for Putin's bodygaurd's whereabouts.

This doesn't match the image he wants to project though, does it?
This is a man who has spent the last fifteen years creating an image of someone who is always in control and a fully capable leader, why would he allow his public to even begin to speculate about his health and power?

Why would he need to be there for 9 days, missing meetings, avoiding all cameras, not saying anything at all while his entire country and most of the world talks about him being dead, or ill, or overthrown?

Even from a security standpoint this is not a wise thing to do. It leaves open the opportunity for other powerful factions in his own country to stage something. You don't hand your opposition such ammunition willingly, especially not when all it would take to dispel it is a five minute appearance on camera mentioning something recent.

All Putin needs to do is appear on camera and mention something of the last few days. He has the opportunity to do this and is either choosing not to, or has been prevented from doing so.

This can only mean that he's either incapacitated, or hiding.

As said though, we'll find out more tomorrow. If he misses the meeting he's due to have the world will basically have confirmation that something serious is going on in the Kremlin. If he then misses the Red Square events this week all bets are off and we can probably expect a more visible power struggle within Moscow.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Whereismypassword

So what if Putin is replaced by an old Russian fart general who sees killing Americans or the western nations troops as good

At least that way Anti Russian posts would have merit unlike the blog started lies we normaly get there

Wouldn't the Pro-Putin posters have to change gears awfully fast? Would you support some psychotic general who intends to roll tanks all over Western Europe not because of NATO provocation, but because Russia is great and can do what it wants?

No I certainly would not support that but I would accept them doing what they did in Georgia and stop the government from it's ethnic cleansing

If my country had borders with Ukraine and it used to be part of our empire till recently,I would expect my government to send in troops and push these savage killers back out of the zones they are shelling


If Russia launches a preemptive strike on NATO countries then I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you and call them out for what they have done

For now Russia and Putin have showed incredible restrain in not doing a Georgia in Ukraine to stop the killings but removing Putin and replacing him with a warmonger could spell disaster to Europe and potentially the world

Who knows what the hell is the situation in Russia right now?