Judge bans a man from smoking in HIS OWN HOME!!

a reply to: kaylaluv

I grew up around a lot of smokers so it just kinda happened. I tried one in my early teens and didn't hate it, and my mother seemed to really like it, so I would sneak a few from her every now and then. It wasn't about popularity, really. Just upbringing.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: kaylaluv

Does vaping count? I mean, I was pretty heavy smoker for much of late teens and into my 20s. Switched to vaping about 5 years ago.

Vaping and using e-cigs are supposed to be safer, but some communities are actually trying to make them illegal. Want to guess why? They're cheaper than regular cigarettes, therefore YOU save money, the city loses out on money. They don't like that. They want you to spend, spend, spend! So, they want you to buy regular cigarettes. With higher taxes of course, that the cities get to enjoy!


Quitting time

a reply to: Anyafaj

Luckily Japan doesn't have the same smoking restrictions that the U.S. does so I don't have to worry about any of that any time soon.

A lot of my co-workers tease me for vaping, and most of them are heavy smokers.

originally posted by: dr1234
a reply to: Anyafaj

Welcome to Nazi Germany folks, this is freedom?

Try reading up on the issue before pulling the Nazi card.

Freedom is a two way street, your freedom does not trump my freedom.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Smoking is nasty and stupid, but if it were me and the smoker refused to fix the structural issue when asked nicely -- I'd just move. It's a lose/lose situation to me. If the smoker wins, then you're stuck with the smoke problem. If the smoker loses, he's gonna be mad as hell, and he WILL get revenge (see posts on this very thread suggesting possible revenge scenarios). Either way, I would lose and be miserable. Just move to a nicer neighborhood with nicer neighbors.

Here's my take on where negotiations broke down. The family is willing to pay to fix the chimney. Sister owns the house, not the smoker. Sister would like to fix the chimney and bring it up to code, but by allowing the family to pay, she thinks they would get a say in HOW the chimney gets fixed, and after said chimney is fixed, if they don't like it, and want it redone, they aren't going to pay for it. Sister doesn't WANT them to have a say in HOW it is fixed, just that it is fixed. It is sister's home. It should be sister's say. (Which I agree. I wouldn't want my neighbor coming in and telling me when, where, and how my home should be fixed.) So negotiations broke down, neighbors sued to $500k, now if they win the $500K, sure as hell ain't getting fixed now! Is it? Not unless a new neighbor moves in and fixes it. Because chances are, in order to PAY the $500K, Sister will have to sell the home, and smoking brother will be homeless. IF the family wins the monetary amount of the lawsuit that is.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: kaylaluv

I grew up around a lot of smokers so it just kinda happened. I tried one in my early teens and didn't hate it, and my mother seemed to really like it, so I would sneak a few from her every now and then. It wasn't about popularity, really. Just upbringing.

Mine was more stress related. The more stressed I was, the more I smoked. At the time I wasn't on any Xanax or anything to help with stress, and cigarettes helped relieve my stress. Now if I'm stressed I take a Xanax, but if I'm driving I smoke a cherry flavored E-Cigarette until I get home, since I cannot take a Xanax while driving or I pass out.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: Anyafaj

Luckily Japan doesn't have the same smoking restrictions that the U.S. does so I don't have to worry about any of that any time soon.

A lot of my co-workers tease me for vaping, and most of them are heavy smokers.

I used to be about half a pack a day, until I switched to e-cigarettes. Now I don't smoke unless I'm in the car under severe stress, such as a panic attack.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

It's true -- no one really owns anything. It's been this way for a long time actually, but recently people are waking up to it. All companies are owned by other companies that are beholden to large financial institutions that are owned by even larger central banks.

You may have paid off your home or parcel of land, but if you don't pay property tax it'll be taken away from you...

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I grew up around it too. My dad smoked heavily, and both my grandparents smoked. I always hated the smell of the smoke. I remember whining at my dad when we were on road trips, because the cigarette smoke would bother me so much in the car. I hate the smell of fresh smoke, but even worse is the smell of old, stale smoke. Just awful to me - makes me nauseous and gives me headaches. I'd much rather smell a bunch of farts. It's kind of ironic to me that people try not to fart around other people out of courtesy, but don't have any problem smoking around them.

I'm amazed that your first cigarette wasn't awful. Everyone I have ever known coughed like crazy, eyes watering and throat and lungs burning with their first one. I've even known kids who threw up after smoking a whole cigarette. Then they just lit up another one! Now that's stupid.

a reply to: Anyafaj

In that case, all the sister has to do is bring it up to code. Legally, that is the extent of her obligation. If the neighbors still don't like it, there's really nothing legally they can do (other than move), if it really is up to code.

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: kaylaluv

Does vaping count? I mean, I was pretty heavy smoker for much of late teens and into my 20s. Switched to vaping about 5 years ago.

Vaping and using e-cigs are supposed to be safer, but some communities are actually trying to make them illegal. Want to guess why? They're cheaper than regular cigarettes, therefore YOU save money, the city loses out on money. They don't like that. They want you to spend, spend, spend! So, they want you to buy regular cigarettes. With higher taxes of course, that the cities get to enjoy!


Quitting time

Or maybe it's because of the dangers of some e-cigarettes.
losangeles.cbslocal.com...

I'll take my chances with a real smoke besides nothing satisfies the addiction like the real thing.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Oh I got nauseous afterward for sure. But the "high" I got was really interesting, so I didn't really hate it.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: kaylaluv

Does vaping count? I mean, I was pretty heavy smoker for much of late teens and into my 20s. Switched to vaping about 5 years ago.

Vaping and using e-cigs are supposed to be safer, but some communities are actually trying to make them illegal. Want to guess why? They're cheaper than regular cigarettes, therefore YOU save money, the city loses out on money. They don't like that. They want you to spend, spend, spend! So, they want you to buy regular cigarettes. With higher taxes of course, that the cities get to enjoy!


Quitting time

Or maybe it's because of the dangers of some e-cigarettes.
losangeles.cbslocal.com...

I'll take my chances with a real smoke besides nothing satisfies the addiction like the real thing.

Or maybe some idiots shouldn't be fiddling with their e-cigs and overcharging them.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Okay but it still doesn't change the fact that they can be dangerous.

a reply to: thesaneone

I'll take my extremely low (zero if you're experienced) chance of an E-Cig exploding in my face over the inevitable health problems I face down the road should I have continued to smoke. Plus all my clothes don't smell like an ashtray anymore, and the boys I kiss don't complain of the cigarette taste.

originally posted by: thesaneone
Or maybe it's because of the dangers of some e-cigarettes.
losangeles.cbslocal.com...

I'll take my chances with a real smoke besides nothing satisfies the addiction like the real thing.

Former smoker of 15 years here, I'm now Vaping and have no desire to go back to cigarettes.

The scare stories are nonsense. It's no more dangerous than falling asleep with a cigarette in your hand, and you presumably have the common sense not to do that, right?

Vaping is just as satisfying as a regular cigarette, only without the chemicals, the poisons, the potential for cancer, the stench, the bad breath...

I really don't understand those who refuse to try it. It's safer, it's cheaper, it's nicer, and you're not giving some rich non-smoker in an office somewhere hundreds of $'s a month to shorten our own life. It makes no sense to carry on smoking.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Kind of hard to kiss the boys if your lips are blown off from those e-cigs.

Not telling anyone what to do just posting on how they can be dangerous.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Hello Fellow Vaporizer!

I agree with all of the above, and also the flavors. I love all the flavors I can get. Right now I'm vaping on Orange Cremesicle.

And it's like dessert, ALL the time. But with zero calories.

a reply to: thesaneone

If you're going to use that logic, then cellphones, tablets and laptops can be dangerous.
They all use the same kind of battery.

But that's off topic. They ban ecigs here where I live for the same reason they banned regular cigarettes, both inside and out within the city limits. For the public's health. Bwahahaha!!

I can live with the no smoking in public places inside. Heck, I can deal with the no smoking outside laws and ordinances, no matter how asinine they are. This man should be able to chain smoke in his house 24/7. If the judge upholds the injunction and the neighbors win their suit, that will be a very scary day.

a reply to: CoherentlyConfused

If he fixes the problem and stops it from interfering with others around him he can.

The other house has already offered to pay for it and drop the suit if it gets corrected, but of course they are the bad guys here