Utah officers heard mysterious voice that led them to infant who survived for 14 hours after car cra

a reply to: kosmicjack

I would assume the mother understood it was not yet her child's time to go and that the baby still needed to experience this life to learn and grow.

Amazing story. And the baby is recovering wonderfully!

a reply to: kosmicjack

Interesting that she desperately wanted help for the child to stay in this realm...I mean as opposed to being together in the afterlife...if it's so great.

I can think of a few reasons.

Maybe she wanted the baby to grow up and experience life?
Maybe she didn't want her family to suffer more?
Maybe her maternal instinct was still kicking?
Maybe she didn't realize she died?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: kosmicjack

Maybe she didn't realize she died?

That's a provocative thought.

a reply to: VegHead

Johnson said the police don't believe the voice came from Groesbeck. "Due to the trauma she sustained, we suspect she was deceased upon impact. I don’t believe she survived the impact of the car crash. There was massive trauma," Johnson said. "The baby was in a car seat in the backseat on the passenger side," Lt. Cory Slaymaker of the Spanish Fork Police Department had said. "The vehicle was on its top, so the car seat could have been out of the water. The car was on the embankment, so I don't know how much water was getting into the car."

They don't BELIEVE the voice came from Groesbeck. They SUSPECT she was deceased on impact.

I don’t believe she survived the impact of the car crash. There was massive trauma," Johnson said.

He doesn't believe she did. Maybe the massive trauma became lethal when they turned over the car.

The vehicle was on its top, so the car seat could have been out of the water. The car was on the embankment, so I don't know how much water was getting into the car.

So was she submerged or not?

I see nothing here that would eliminate the possibility that she was alive when they got there.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

From what I have experienced working with the soon to be dead some people seem to hang around for a while near their body. Being separated from your body does not cause a person to immediately go into the light, upload their consciousness into the light circuit, of what have you.

In this case the mother I think stuck close to her baby and made a connection with the first responders. Their actions of flipping over the semi-submerged car, hearing a cry for help, and then reporting it makes this seem a clear case of a mother's caring will, and love for her child crossing the veil. Perhaps with assistance from the other side communicating both strength, motivation, and will to live to the first responder team.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Maybe she didn't realize she died?

I think your last thought lends credence to the fact that in many cases, folks don't quite realize they are "dead" (especially those whose lives are unceremoniously wrenched away from them) and continue to linger in the physical realm, as we know it.

Hence, they haunt until something or someone provides some impetus for them to move on.

Quite interesting.

originally posted by: DPrice
The only explanation aside from nonsense such as ghosts is that the policemen lied.

Not necessarily. Pareidolia is a very possible and even plausible explanation here. They are under a bridge that likely echos with water rushing along, wildlife may be around, etc. The sounds they heard may have been natural, or may have been the result of a vehicle crossing the bridge at the time, a bird singing, etc. anything that could have been similar to a woman's voice. At the time, adrenaline rushing through their bodies, the shock of the cold water affecting them, the stressful situation with time being an extreme factor, it' s possible that any noise could have been interpreted by some preoccupied brains as a woman's voice calling for help.

a reply to: machineintelligence
Well thats interesting. But voice aside, and who heard what, or were it came from as it does not matter now. But that has got to be one of the most unluckiest and luckiest kid, all for obvious reasons. Unlucky for the actual crash and loss of her mother, but lucky for the fact that she survived through it all, all 14 or so hours of it.

Here's to looking the kid has better days then that ahead, and an interesting little tale over all.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Interesting story, but it's Utah - most are Mormons and believe in magic underwear. I'm not buying it.

a reply to: WCmutant

Interesting that you think they lied despite them being Mormons (assuming they are even Mormons).

BTW Utah is not mostly Mormons. It's about half.

Happy to hear that she is in stable condition.


To address some of these comments; I don't believe anyone related to this story has claimed being a Mormon, at least one officers says they are not particularly religious. Also, Utah is not all Mormon.

Why does one have to be religious to accept that a likely disembodied voice was heard? Hey look here's some possible evidence that everyone wants of the afterlife. Oh, but it can't be because only religious nuts can hear that!

*sigh* Too bad it wasn't recorded not that it's ever regarded anyway.

Most importantly a life was saved.

Its amazing how people just think of arguments to deny the possibility that it could be something paranormal.
When i was very young ( about 6 to 8 years ) i woke up one night of a voice who call my name. I opened my eyes and reply with a;... yes?
Then, for the second time i heard the voice, a male voice, calm and friendly.
I put my ears to the wall because i thought it came from the neighbours.
But that was the last of it, never experienced it again or knowing who or why i was called.
And im almost 50 now
And yes im still looking for the truth... is there life after dead, and i still dont believe it for sure, and cases like this just intrigues me,
Just wanted to share.

Sorry english isn't my first language

Back in 1996 I was working at a car dealer. The electrician that was employed at night there (extremely large car lot, needed two full time electricians/maintenance guys), was a preacher. At the time I was VERY agnostic bordering on atheism.

He came in one evening, and was visibly distracted. So I asked him what was up. He told me about his son getting in a horrific accident in West Virginia. He got out pictures to show me. They were driving a brand new 1995 or 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee. and it was unrecognizable.

They were driving on RT 50 in West Virginia, just on the other side of Ohio. Anyone who's driven that road (I have, on the way to Myrtle Beach) knows it is one Semi Truck after the other, and it's 2 lanes of twists and turns. Dangerous road.

His son was talking to his wife, and reached down to get his cup of pop from the console, and the lid came off, and the cup slipped from his hands spilling all over his lap and the Jeep's interior, in that moment of distraction, he veered left of center directly into an 18 wheeler. The car was totaled, and burst into flames. They both suffered broken legs, but managed to extract themselves from the wreck. Truck driver was unconscious. They felt lucky, and prayers of thanks were given, and they spent a few days in the hospital.

Here's where is got interesting. They went to the impound lot to look at the wreck. The father looks in the car, and it's gutted with fire. He looks at the headliner of it, and tucked away behind the remains of the visor was his son's study Bible, and his Notebook from seminary school. Completely unharmed save for some scorching on the outer edges of the pages. They took pictures of the moment after he found it (Mind you, this was 1996, well before cell phones with cameras, so they bought a disposable camera to take pictures of the wreck)

Really blew my mind. Those paper books should have went up in flames with the rest of the car. But they took it as divine intervention. I could find no reason to challenge it, and it made me rethink my views. If you saw that wreck, there was no way they should have gotten away alive, let alone them extracting themselves!

Weird and strange stuff happens.

I read this story in a UK newspaper and there was no mention at all about the voices, just that a fisherman found the baby and reported it to police.

There are hopefully more things that go on in this world than we understand. Science would try to explain this away but things happen that are beyond reasonable. However it happened something was working for the little one. Besides that unless they saw a women's arm sticking out of the car door why would think it had to be a women's voice coming out of the car?
I had an instance going to class in California where I was worried for no reason. Called home back in Illinois just after a near twister went through. Trees were torn up and power was out but the phone was working. i can't explain why any of that worked.
Always expect reaility to be stranger than fiction.

a reply to: WilsonWilson

Was that just the print version or was there an online version as well for the resource you mention here? Thanks.

I feel that "veil" is becoming thinner and thinner everyday. It's only a matter if time before the paranormal becomes openly accepted as fact.

Like one of the posters mention this story is reminiscence of the Christine Skubish ghost story. Which was a segment on one of the paranormal witness episodes. So this story isn't too far fetched. Frankly, I'm glad they were able to save the little girl, but sadden that this mother died trying to save her daughter. It does make you wonder, how powerful bonds can transcend even the afterlife to reach the ears of the living.

It was probably the OnStar agent who got the notification that the vehicle was in an accident. They turned on the speaker so they can hear and heard a baby. The OnStar Agent yelled for help hoping someone at some time would hear.

a reply to: OneNationUnder

The car was overturned and half submerged in the river for 14 hours so I doubt that.