If true,then Ukraine's government is getting ready to run

I came across this article and all I can say is that if this is true, I guess they are all getting ready to bail out seeing the writing on the wall. They have done some very unpopular things lately. When people protest now,they get beat up,their pensions and wages have been cut in half,they are in a war against their own people that they don't want to fight,serve in,or anything else,the people protest daily against all the cuts and the war and are not being listened too.

This country is a recipe for disaster.It seems that it is going down and those in so called power now know it. Passports to other countries,dual citizenship? Yeah time to go Fred.

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a reply to: Dimithae

This country is a recipe for disaster.It seems that it is going down and those in so called power now know it. Passports to other countries,dual citizenship? Yeah time to go Fred.

Cant help feeling the west instigated, aided and abetted this disaster and should never have got involved and Ukraine would have eventuall got rid of the corrupt incumbent

a reply to: Dimithae

Ukraine just had an election on October 26, 2014. That is just over 4 months ago. Do you really think 'they are all getting ready to bail out seeing the writing on the wall' as you said?

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: noeltrotsky

Yes I do. I think they are sitting and waiting to see what will happen,and if they see that things are getting dangerous there they will bail. The people are not happy with what is going on. I don't care if I was voted in yesterday,if I thought I was going to be lynched I would get out 2 days later.

originally posted by: Dimithae
The people are not happy with what is going on.

It is only a blog. An opinion.

However, what are the majority unhappy about? Russian meddling, perhaps. Is there any evidence that shows the people of Ukraine are unhappy with the current democratically elected government?

a reply to: Dimithae

Let me play Devil's advocate here. If the leaders of the Ukrainian government fled the country due to protests would you claim that a coup occurred? Would you refer to the new government as a junta?

Gazprom says Ukraine paid another $15mn, enough for 5 days gas.

They are cutting it very close now days do they not? But with high inflation maybe this is wise.

Two wolfs at the door. IMF and Russia pushing their own interest. It is the sale of the century. Resources/land go cheap. And when it is over the wolves have control and the people are even more enslaved than they where.

originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: noeltrotsky

Yes I do. I think they are sitting and waiting to see what will happen,and if they see that things are getting dangerous there they will bail. The people are not happy with what is going on. I don't care if I was voted in yesterday,if I thought I was going to be lynched I would get out 2 days later.

With what evidence are you using to reach this conclusion?

I ask because pro Russian rebels have been bitching that eastern Ukrainians aren't volunteering to help the rebels.

a reply to: Dimithae

Rumours are Poroshenko his family is already outside the Ukraine.

The situation is not very stable with a small coup already have been taking place and no control over the right sector.

Kolomoysky's paramilitaries engineer a coup in Dnepropetrovsk

Rada deputy threatens to shoot the Kharkov authorities for refusing to declare Russia as an "aggressor"

...if they declare Russia being an "aggressor," it`s all out war and Russia can do what it did to Georgia in `08; take the Ukraine out in a couple of days...Russia clearly shows it has no interest in taking the Ukraine and gives Kiev a way out...DPR and LPR have stated they want to stay part of the Ukraine, but want to be given right to Separate later on (a guarantee that their wishes are being respected).

Here you can see Right Sector thinks it hasn`t obey the law...

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Any real evidence?

As a recap - A blog is not a "media source".

I also see you are once again pushing the same Nazi BS.

a reply to: Xcathdra

No need for me to push it when Nuland calls this man "Our Guy"...

Yatsneyuk flanked by one of Right Sector and one of Svoboda (the one who changed its name to something which sounded less like something to be affiliated with Nazi Germany on advice of the CIA)

a reply to: Xcalibur254

If it is by the people,then it is their legit government whether we like it or not. But color revolutions,western backing? No

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Still the same BS you push in other threads I see. Please list who the Nazis are in Ukraine. You seem to be an expert in that area so please educate us.

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originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: noeltrotsky

Yes I do.

My Azeri friend who has lived most of his life in Kiev thinks so too. He told me about the price hikes, unemployment, factories closing down, general dismay of the population as to what's happened to their country. He says it's only a matter of time before the people turn on the American puppets in government as the country is grinding to a halt.

originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: Xcalibur254

If it is by the people,then it is their legit government whether we like it or not. But color revolutions,western backing? No

If you believe this then explain Crimea? Putin already told the world the non insignia soldiers were Russian. Using your logic (and ignoring the fact the vote was illegal in the first place) Crimea's government at the time of the illegal elections was in fact illegal itself considering they were made up of self appointed leaders, some of which were Russian citizens.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

how are they puppets when the Ukrainian people elected them?


You guys are now just restating failed talking points in other threads dealing with Ukraine and then, like now, you cant support the claims with any facts.



Now - please debunk the following -
The friends I have in Kiev and Crimea give me a different view, stating things have become intolerable under the pro Russian / Russian occupation. they stated lots of people don't want to be a part of Russia yet are being forced into being quiet about their views with threats of violence from prp Russian rebels / Russian military should they decide to keep complaining.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Looks like Porky is dangling from John Kerrys hand scgnews.com...

The Ukranians in power are part of a plan by the USA to encircle Russia. This is real. Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are all part of the scam.

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a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Yeah you guys have posted that info several times in the Ukraine threads - still doesn't make it true.


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Who writes the blogs for that website? I ask because off all their articles and what not there is absolutely no information on the person who wrote the article.


A blog is not a news source.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I ask because pro Russian rebels have been bitching that eastern Ukrainians aren't volunteering to help the rebels.

That is on both sides, www.the-american-interest.com...

And I believe getting a passport and citizenship to another country should be sufficient evidence.Since when does your president have dual citizenship?