The lie of Muslims not evolving out of the Dark Ages

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Crusades were largely a response to repeated large scale military offenses by Muslim empires into Southern Europe over the preceding 300 years.

Muslim conquests in Europe

originally posted by: Aaamok88
a reply to: Krazysh0t

All the latest terrorist groups are direct results of US drone programs and invasions of countries like Libya and so on

But US government actually likes that because it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy,

You create more enemies more wars, more dead, more BS and propaganda for home front, more children growing up without patents

More tears at bed time instead of stories

This is 100% true. Blow up the countries which creates friction and strife. Then when the inevitable backlash occurs, pretend like it is a brand new threat so that you can go back in and blow up the countries again. Rinse, wash, and repeat. It's called the cycle of violence and is the number one reason why I don't want us to intervene and take down ISIS. Let regional powers in the Middle East do that.

Anyone who thinks we should continue to intervene in the Middle East, including taking down ISIS, is blinded to recent history and our actions in the Middle East. Violence doesn't make the problem go away, it just suppresses it for a while, then lets it grow and fester. By the time it resurfaces, it is MUCH worse. This is how terrorism progressed from the 70's to the present day. Each time we intervened, the terrorists would come back with a crazier and more violent scheme. This caused 9/11 which caused us to go back AGAIN. Then the most recent intervention created ISIS and their new brand of sick craziness. This s# NEVER ends as long as we keep fighting.

a reply to: nenothtu

I never claimed that Islam was peaceful. War has existed forever. I am comparing standards and morality of the day to standards and morality of the past. Back in those days, Islam was pushing the intellectual barrier while Christianity wasn't. It has nothing to do with peace or war. THAT is why those times are called the Dark Ages.

originally posted by: nenothtu

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TonyS

I am not apologizing for Muslim extremist behavior of today. I am just trying to prevent racist opinions from taking root in the public's consciousness.

Look at how America handles racism. We let racist attitudes towards different minority fester and get worse and worse for decades. Then there is a social backlash about it and we have to spend even longer undoing the damage and unraveling the preconceived notions. We still haven't recovered from the racial damage we did to black people. Native American culture is all but forgotten.

Do you think it is a good thing to let the Muslim religion become another victim of this cycle of hate? Yes, there are bad Muslims, but there are also bad Christians. If we can forgive Christianity despite the actions of the few (how's that Catholic pedophilia scandal going?), we can forgive the Muslim religion for the actions of a few.

Racism?

Pray tell what race are Muslims?

Semantics. You know what I mean.