UK Muslim agenda - what's going on here then?

a reply to: earthling42

No, that's the effect mass media has on population.

They create a moral panic and the population buys in to it. You learn that in media studies on the first day.

EDIT: And of course the news agenda is manufactured - for those who miss the obvious: not the events, the agenda.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I don't know you personally, of course, but I've never detected a spirit of "genuflection" from you toward anyone or anything.

You're a citizen of the UK where the pot seems to be churning more violently at the moment. I have several friends in the US who are Muslim that face similar ignorance here.

Be vigilant.

a reply to: and14263
Do you disagree with the media reporting that in Rotherham, Halifax, Rochdale, and Oxford mostly Muslim men have abused thousands of mostly white girls then?
Perhaps the courts are just brainwashing now, all those charges and convictions are wrong? Really?

a reply to: grainofsand

No I'm not, I think I agreed with you on page 1 of the thread? Maybe I didn't but I read what you posted and I agreed. I'll look back and edit if I didn't. Sorry.

What I am saying though is that we are always focusing on Muslims abusing people, bombing people, carrying out terrorist acts.... There's more bad in the World than a Muslim. And the power of MSM swings people's views making a generation hate Muslims.

Sorry, thought I mentioned it on page 1.

EDIT: I wasn't going mad.... my second or third post down page 1.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: and14263
Do you disagree with the media reporting that in Rotherham, Halifax, Rochdale, and Oxford mostly Muslim men have abused thousands of mostly white girls then?
Perhaps the courts are just brainwashing now, all those charges and convictions are wrong? Really?

well if it's anything like the US, the socialists (whether fascist or marxist) want to keep their hold on the political seat and importing ready made votes, is part of how they do that here. they are manipulating the greed of capitalists who go along with it for the opposite idea of cheap labor. your situation may vary, but i doubt it. it also has the benefit of providing evidence for why religious extremism sucks, and in many cases, they use it as an excuse for why religion of any kind sucks.

a reply to: and14263
Fair one fella, was just clarifying, I've no argument with you, just the idea that pointing out a problem in a specific community equals hatred for that community. It does not to me, but some folk certainly do not wish to point out this obvious problem in some towns of the UK, we've swept it under the carpet for too many years now, I'm glad it's out there so it can be addressed properly by the communities involved.

a reply to: undo

Quick side note ... as you are saying that the "political seat" is held at the moment by Socialists, and since the Congress is now majority Republican ... are you saying that Republicans are "fascist socialists" as opposed to "marxist socialists" (which would refer to the Democrats, I imagine.

So, socialists are everywhere then? Using ... capitalism to achieve their ends?

And that somehow also relates to the political extremism against Muslims in the UK ...

a reply to: and14263

So apparently they think the population are a bunch of morons, if that is taught on the first day.
Generalisation, and quite narrow minded.

originally posted by: earthling42
a reply to: and14263

So apparently they think the population are a bunch of morons, if that is taught on the first day.
Generalisation, and quite narrow minded.

Okay... so nobody pays £500 for an Iphone6 when a £100 android does the same or more?

Power of the media right there for you.

EDIT: I'm not going to argue about basic mass effects of media on population. It's fact.

originally posted by: earthling42
So apparently they think the population are a bunch of morons

Many are.
I can almost immediately figure out which newspapers people read when they share their views at work.
Star/Mail/Sun readers are often caught up in headlines and less detail. Anecdotal of course but I know loads of unquestioning thick folk who lap up whatever the headline is, as I'm sure you do.

a reply to: undo

Than the first question is, did they really do that? second question, how?

a reply to: and14263

So why were these grooming gangs ignored for so long?
Not just once, but in several different towns and cities.

They were allowed to continue their abuse despite having an enormous amount of evidence.

Why?

As far as I can tell it was either because the Police and Social Services were scared of being labelled racist, or they were adhering to some politically correct agenda that seeks to hide anything that portrays Muslims in a negative light or that the victims were poor white girls who no-one really gives a toss about....or maybe an element of all three.

I do wonder what the reaction would have been if;
a) The victims had come from some leafy middle class suburb
b) The victims had been young Muslim girls targeted by some 'White Brits'.

a reply to: Freeborn

... or, these communities were more concerned with the reputations of their towns than about the safety of the children.

My reaction is the same; I abhor child abuse however it is committed, wherever it is committed, by whomever commits it.

One case is not worse than the other.

It is despicable to imply otherwise.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: undo

Quick side note ... as you are saying that the "political seat" is held at the moment by Socialists, and since the Congress is now majority Republican ... are you saying that Republicans are "fascist socialists" as opposed to "marxist socialists" (which would refer to the Democrats, I imagine.

So, socialists are everywhere then? Using ... capitalism to achieve their ends?

And that somehow also relates to the political extremism against Muslims in the UK ...

repubs are a combo of fascists and capitalists and democrats are a combo of marxists and capitalists. and importing votes and cheap labor is how it works and the same formula is being used in europe, the big difference being the type of people being imported. in the usa, the bulk are moderate catholic democrats and marxists, who are promised a better future than what their own countries offer in exchange for votes. many europeans already recognize that their politicians are doing this same thing but it also contains the bizaare decision to import people from extremist and exceedingly racist areas of the world.

a reply to: Freeborn

This idea that the police wre being bound by being politically correct is rubbish.
The police suffered from the same arrogant macho bull# as the abusers, which is why it isnt just a muslim issue.
The police saw these girls as "sluts" not as victims but as easy women rather than abused children.

a reply to: Freeborn

I know - why? I cannot think of my own reason but I have been informed it was because there were some high up elites involved in the trafficking the Muslims took part in. That these were men responsible for providing elites with young children.

It's hearsay and I should maybe not use the word 'informed' but it seems more plausible than a bunch of people who are usually labelled as child thieves worried about being labelled as racist in areas of the country were thousands of racists live.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
My reaction is the same; I abhor child abuse however it is committed, wherever it is committed, by whomever commits it.

One case is not worse than the other.

It is despicable to imply otherwise.

Who is implying that these Muslim rape gangs are worse than white rape gangs?
The point is that there is a problem in these towns and it appears to be a problem of the Muslim community.
If there are reports of organised white non-Muslim rape gangs preying on children on a similar industrial scale then I will comment accordingly, but right now, the four seperate and different towns with shocking problems are not being caused by white gangs.

a reply to: and14263

No, there is also nuance, while a portion of the populations oversimplified, there is also a hugh part which is not, including media outlets which will only publish a story when it is backed with good research before they publish.
Here in the Netherlands we have the telegraph which one should read with a grain of salt, or the metro and spits who can be deemed 'overtype media' because copying for them is easier and cheaper than actual journalism.

a reply to: grainofsand

Did I say that some member here is implying that "these Muslim rape gangs" are worse than white rape games?

No. I made a statement of my own understanding that you're apparently intent on projecting onto.

My point is and remains that the problem is child abuse wherever it happens.

Declaring it as a Muslim problem achieves nothing. It is not purely a Muslim problem.

FInding the abuse and stopping the abuse is the only concern that should trouble us unless we are pursuing some other agenda.

These are my statements.

originally posted by: earthling42
a reply to: undo

Than the first question is, did they really do that? second question, how?

did they really import racists and radicals into europe?