Etymology of "God" in Hebrew

p.s. i also traced a deification of enki's e.abzu temple in the form of ra, in the story, THE LEGEND OF THE DESTRUCTION OF MANKIND, when ra is described as having skin like gold, bones like silver, and hair like lapus lazuli, which is a description of the e.abzu, which was said to be silver on the inside, gold on the outside, with lapis lazuli decoration. i then tried to find an etymological connection between the word RA and the word EA, in case the egyptian god RA was an egyptian etymological trail of the word EA into egypt. no luck on that one, as egyptian words as we see them today, are all written in greek instead of egyptian (which throws many researchers a curve ball) and frequently is missing vowels when written in hieroglyphs. since EA is 2 vowels, you can see the dilemma.

a reply to: undo

I need to do some background on Ra, I'm sensing some links somewhere...

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

I really want to point out that a lot of words nowadays can be very common. For example, Christianity and Islam both use the word "God" in a generic fashion. Now, my knowledge of Hebrew is extremely limited, but I've noticed a few things. Please note that I'm doing a lot of guess-work here.

Here is a short video on that same subject. Take a look and tell me what you think. It is interesting.

www.cepher.net...

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio


The actual Hebrew word for God, literally speaking, seems to be הוהי. I do have to wonder what might be implied by flipping the word around. Sounds blasphemous, right? As it happens, יהוה translates to Jehovah. That's a bit weird, ain't it? If I translate אל יהוה, I get The Lord. Baal, meaning lord or husband, and Moloch which is king, might refer to either somebody holding a position of esteem or a divine entity which is not God

This confirms what I have been saying in regards to the (lord) Christ as shaman...

Now let's look at הוה - this translates to Eve, possibly referring to Eve herself or simply before/first. I'm also considering Passion as a possible meaning, which could itself suggest Life. So what happens if we put two together? אלהוה is translating to The Divine. This is very interesting, I must say. These two words look much more natural than anything else I've seen.
 

It makes sense to me,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sounds blasphemous right? Only when translated to English apparently!

Snf

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: undo

I need to do some background on Ra, I'm sensing some links somewhere...

others problem with tracing it are:

1. many god names ended with -ah in egypt. that is what i think of as the "hayah" (and therefore EA) suffix.

2. some pharaoh's names even start with that as a prefix such as ahmose. even the word "pharaoh" has a vowel variant suffix of -oh.

3. if EA as a word, was the root word etymology of the sun god, RA, (who's name is pronounced RAH (there's that suffix again)), there's the problem of EA referencing his mastery over water, not the sun. EA is a water god. RA is a sun god.

4. some references to gods/pharaohs containing the -ah suffix or prefix, are not about the sun at all but the moon. for example, Ahmose, who's name means Born of IAH and it says IAH is the moon god. from the wiki on him

Iah ( Egyptian: Jˁḥ, transliterated as Yah, Jah, Jah(w), Joh or Aah [2]) is a god of the moon in ancient Egyptian religion. His name simply means moon.

the problem is, YAHWEH and EA or ENKI-EA (or even RA) was never a moon god. that title belongs to EN.LIL
you see hints of this in the old testament and the new, when it refers to the rulers of the night as evil and enemies of humans, and juxtaposes this against the rulers of the day, which to me, sounds like an ongoing war between the people of the sun god vs. the people of the moon god.

אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה,

ehyeh asher ehyeh

Is the name of the creator God that was told to Moses.It’s literal translation is “I will be what I will be”… commonly known as… I am that I am or …..I am.

The pronunciation of the name or the exact phrasing of it’s literal translation are not the paramount of importance since it’s preciseness cannot be known.The premise is built on what a name means and does.A name is the nature and character of the thing or person named.To some people God is a person to other more like a thing like a presence,power or essence to others nothing at all.

Whatever the creator God is (if it exists) it is beyond words and explanation. The fallacy that has been perpetuated through religion is their is a “mystical spiritual” power in saying the name like an incantation(even though many he do so would deny it).AS a reasonable explanation that can be ruled out immediately. If there is a creator God they are not subject to anyone or anything in any way shape or form.In light of what a name “means” The name of a creator God is beyond comprehension by a man.The creators name as perceived by mankind is only a expression of their nature and character in language.Knowing a pronunciation does not mean “knowing” the name.

If someone stated they “knew” the name of the creator God it would mean they experienced the enacting of that name….and that could be a multiple myriad of things.If there is a creator God everyone knows their name in the most basic form of enacting creation…their life(spirit).That does not mean their "life" is the creator God’s “Spirit”it would mean the creator created it in a similar way that an artist creates art.It is the expression of the artist life yet it is not “their” life the art has a life of it’s own.In the case of mankind it is “the spirit of man”.

The perversion of that is that man has a “spirit being” living inside their body that is the “real” them and man is a spirit being having a human experience.That is mysticism at it’s worse creating a “name” for itself.However that is mans nature of being religious and to create a God in their image(imagination).

Mans “life” is 100% inherited . They are not “the creator” in any form at all because the spirit of man leads to death and Spirit is life.This seems(and is) to be the common process of all “life” in the physical realm (the creation). In other words the “spirit of man” is temporal and transitory. It has stages of process which culminates in a death.That is the end of the line of mans spirit perception of knowledge of life.

However it does have implications of what is to come and how what comes before work together.If this life is examined there are common threads.The most basic common thread is seed.In essence everything is grown from seed.The seed goes through many process which could in effect be called “lives”.They are not the “same” lives (as in re incarnation) but a process of lifes.

Without going into precise detail… human”conception” starts with a spermatozoon and an egg cell.When they are “married” they become a zygote(the base meaning of marriage).Then they zygote starts to split and form more cells which in essence are like new births “adding” to the growth of the body.This is an embryo.When the embryo has grown the necessary organs it becomes a fetus.When the fetus is fully formed and no longer can live in the womb it is delivered/born and lives “the spirit of man”…then of course... eventually dies.

Man can know by this process that their “life”(spirit of man) is one more stage of this growth.It is impossible to know where this leads just as it was impossible to know what life we would be born into when we were a seed or zygote or even a fetus.All stages of growth are caused by the creator.Many of them are what we would “name” chaotic.It is futile to speculate why and what it’s purpose is since like all things it is in a process that can’t be known while in the process.

If anything the “spirit of man” is in a stage of a form of awareness(for lack of another term) however what it is aware of, they cannot know(probably very very little).The whole of this universe could be like a spermatozoon cell itself.It would be hubris to believe the creator only created a limited amount of “works”.

This creation of life is the creators nature and character.It is the creators name..I will be what I will be….it is a statement of self existence.A natural conclusion of that fact is none could “say” that is their name (even though some are deluded and believe they are).

In essence the creators name is only knowable by what mankind can perceive which is only a belief.They cannot perceive the actual inner workings process of creation because they are “inside” of it and it is happening to them.It is a skewered observational view. To “know”the creator is to be made “complete”(mature) and able to commune with the creator and live their life (Spirit).Anyone who believes they have transcended the physical realm womb and ascended into the “spirit of the creator God” to know their name is delusional beyond present hope.

Is this a simplified way of perceiving “life”?… yes…there are no other reasonable ways because the fact will soon be apparent there are infinite possibilities and none of them can be tied down to a cut and dried “fixed theory”.Honest physicist run up against this in their work all the time.Science is not a exactness it is purposed to be.It is chaotic in nature also(though more controlled) as anything else.This life is not so easily explained or understood.

Seeking answers to questions is one thing …believing they can all be known is something completely different.

originally posted by: Wifibrains
Sounds blasphemous right? Only when translated to English apparently!

Yeah, but I think it might just be the translator being weird.

ירא - Translates to "fear" and "awe", like one might of a god

...but might this be Ra?
 

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio

originally posted by: Wifibrains
Sounds blasphemous right? Only when translated to English apparently!

Yeah, but I think it might just be the translator being weird.

ירא - Translates to "fear" and "awe", like one might of a god

...but might this be Ra?
 

רָע

ra=evil,bad in Hebrew

This looks likes a horned god, as in the ram... איל

Dunno if this is just a weird coincidence or what, but have a look...

איל - Translates to il, also means ram
פאן - The Greek God, Pan (aka the goat f*cker)

Put them together (vaguely)...

אלפא - Translates to Alpha

So basically, that's two rather interesting links to 'horned gods' in ancient Aramaic.

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
Dunno if this is just a weird coincidence or what, but have a look...

איל - Translates to il, also means ram
פאן - The Greek God, Pan (aka the goat f*cker)

Put them together (vaguely)...

אלפא - Translates to Alpha

So basically, that's two rather interesting links to 'horned gods' in ancient Aramaic.

can you link me the reference to --> איל - Translates to il, also means ram

Link: איל

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
Link: איל

interesting. so the hebrews thought the symbol of enlil was the ram? nada chance.

check this out:
IL

Time to get real with this nonsense!

Aries (The Ram) was the zodiacal sign for Ra.

ראם - Translates to a horned animal, specifically the oryx.

Ra + m (ם + רא) = Ram
i + Ra (רא + י) = Ira

Ira is Latin for ire - meaning fear, wrath, fury (hence ירא).

ראה - Prophet and seer. Feminine? If so, could be Isis?

אמן - Amen, as in prayer and also Amun-Ra.

Now let's put Amen and Ra together to see what we get...

אמרא - Who'd have thought it? Aries. That's no coincidence.

רם ראש - Ram Head, depicting Aries and Ra.

I can only conclude that רא is Aramaic for Ra.

Further...let's look at Abraham.

In Hebrew, Ab means Father. In Egyptian mythology...

The spirit of the heart and the will and conscience of the recently deceased
which proceeds to the afterlife and is given as evidence towards the deceased. [ref]

אברהם - This is the proper translation for his name.

אב רם - Translates literally to Father Ram, like "Ram Head".

ארם - Translates to Aram, as in either the place or person.

Okay, that's about it for now. Does anybody else find all this a bit, erm...weird?

originally posted by: Rex282

אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה

ehyeh asher ehyeh

אהי הא שר א היה

My brother was a minister of God

Where are you pasting those Hebrew lexicons from as the letters are the wrong way around..
Also His Name is Eyah Asher Eyah and said Himself in scripture would be His Name "Forever as a memorial to all generations".

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

but reading about Hebrew I would think if it was "the one" then it would be first (aleph) א

Hebrew is setup like that no?

doesn't Aleph translate into greek as Alpha? (the first)

en.wikipedia.org...

to get this in English and probably most every other language it has to be run through ancient Greek first, even only then into Latin.

the English language isn't very old...

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

turn off Zeitgeist...

please

Dunno, it's what came up on Google Translator after a bit of messing around.

In any case...I can't turn off what's in my heart.

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

google is the definitive source... we must believe everything google sends back to us, no matter if it is backwards or the most searched terms.

we're post zeitgeist now on this stuff... it's even been sent to academics who have spoken on it, which is probably the greatest thing about it, it has been recognized as unlearned tripe.