If you could prove God doesn't exist...would you tell anyone?

Here is the premise. You just have to take it all as fact for this question. You have discovered some kind of unquestionable proof that God doesn't and has never existed in any form. The evidence would convince anyone including the Pope and other religious leaders the second they see it. Only you know about this evidence and have access to it. If it is to be made public in any way, you are the only one that could present it.

OK...now...there are groups of people who believe in God and other groups that don't. You could justify presenting this evidence to the middle east to stop war. But THE REAL QUESTION IS THIS...would you present this evidence to a group of people that live their life for God...who are religious, God believing people who are happy with their existence and their belief in God?

In short...would YOU destroy this group's belief system in order to PROVE they were wrong or because you believe the truth is more important? Or would you leave them alone to live in their fantasy world?

Have at it!!!

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

In a moment!

Truth trumps.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

If there is a undeniable thruth. Why to hide it ? Aren´t we a species who always have and is seeking the thruth. Hiding the thruth would be etchically wrong. To show the evidence to people you mentioned YES, it´s their choice to believe it or not. I doubt it would change much as there is all kind of cults which are doing quite well even majority of us see the scam behind those.

Beside we as species have gone a long way to solve the mysteries of the world.. example thunder was believed to be a sound of angry Gods.. now we know better.. Why should we hide what we find out?..we always adapt.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

In short...would YOU destroy this group's belief system in order to PROVE they were wrong or because you believe the truth is more important?

Absolutely i would tell them, religon is the cause of so much pain and suffering in this world.

The truth that god doesn't exist (he really doesn't y'know) is more important than letting them believe in him.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Of course, the truth shall set you free.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'd identify myself as a prophet and start a new religion while exposing the facts that God didn't exist.

Then I'd takeover and expand my churches worldwide. But would be kind and only require 8%, not 10% tithing

In all seriousness, yes, I would expose it so science and progress can thrive. Without religion, the first few decades would be hard, but soon people would learn to find their identity within themselves and in their part of the collective.

So this group who (in this example) is living completely happily and peacefully in their little fantasy world...the majority (so far) would end that?

I'm a bit shocked. I posed this question at work and was surprised that the majority would tell them. I coined a phrase a while ago in a song I wrote. It was "is your reality really better than my fantasy". This grew into this question. I personally would leave them alone. I would tell those who telling would make the world a better place...end fighting, etc. But I would leave the ones who live at peace...at peace.

a reply to: ghostrager

There .. we always believe in something in your case we would start believing in collective mind and worship that

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

The evidence would convince anyone including the Pope and other religious leaders the second they see it. Only you know about this evidence and have access to it. If it is to be made public in any way, you are the only one that could present it.

It wouldn't be a problem because the "proof" you cite is irrefutable. As soon as the switch was thrown they would realize it.

Problem is there is no such proof either way. No one has ever reported seeing "God".

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Faith is real, even if the object of faith is not.

Faith has positive effects on human physiology.
It can make people happy and healthy.

Would I knowing take that way from anyone?
No, I would not.

Having said that, proving that a persons object
of faith is a fiction would not diminish the positive
effect of their misplaced faith.

For this reason, I doubt my “proof” would change
the views of true believers in am significant way.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

The evidence would convince anyone including the Pope and other religious leaders the second they see it. Only you know about this evidence and have access to it. If it is to be made public in any way, you are the only one that could present it.

It wouldn't be a problem because the "proof" you cite is irrefutable. As soon as the switch was thrown they would realize it.

Problem is there is no such proof either way. No one has ever reported seeing "God".

Sorry...no, no, no. YOU control the distribution of this information...only you.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

That's silly. Look I'm a Christian, I believe in and love God. I have plenty of personal proof that he exists.

However if you(as in the scenario) had concrete proof that I'm living a lie, I would want to know.

I love my life, but like I said, the truth shall set you free always and regardless where it may lead.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Happy people living in their fantasy worlds. Just take a look at the cults.. outside happy, inside not so happy. That would set them free only if they choose to go that way, but there is a lot of mind control going on. Plant the seed and let it grow...

originally posted by: wasaka
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Faith is real, even if the object of faith is not.

Faith has positive effects on human physiology.
It can make people happy and healthy.

Would I knowing take that way from anyone?
No, I would not.

Having said that, proving that a persons object
of faith is a fiction would not diminish the positive
effect of their misplaced faith.

For this reason, I doubt my “proof” would change
the views of true believers in am significant way.

Understood. But addressing your last sentence...if you show them...they WOULD believe it.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

As a humanist, I would have to (continue) to tell people to value humans above memes.

Eat and drink for tomorrow we die
Of course you tell the truth, that is what God requires of us.

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

That's silly. Look I'm a Christian, I believe in and love God. I have plenty of personal proof that he exists.

However if you(as in the scenario) had concrete proof that I'm living a lie, I would want to know.

I love my life, but like I said, the truth shall set you free always and regardless where it may lead.

If I believed in God and lived my life as my Grandmother did...very religiously. I don't think I would want to know. Maybe back when I was in my teen years. But now that I'm 50...I would rather live in my happy fantasy until the end.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Are children happy to think Santa is real?

Why destroy that illusion?



If you can answer those questions then you know my answer to the god delusion.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Sorry...no, no, no. YOU control the distribution of this information…only you.

Then share it. Why the hell not?

Like Platos Cave, the Matrix and all. It would be selfish otherwise, not waking people up.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Are children happy to think Santa is real?

Why destroy that illusion?



If you can answer those questions then you know my answer to the god delusion.

OK then...someone in my camp. I'm not sure I would be able to take away someone's happiness just to prove a point or to educate them. If they are at peace and happy, who am I to destroy that.