Finally! A Useful Anti-Christian Bigotry Map!

a reply to: Gryphon66

If you have no further point, I think we're done here.

Indeed we are if you are presenting half truths.

Peace

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Shadow Herder

People have become vile creatures who's sense of vanity claiming to know something when they know nothing.

"People" have always been vile creatures. And yes, their sense of vanity is evinced in their claiming they are "made in God's image".

Hogwash.

Although I have to say I agree with you about the 'knowing nothing' part, and how it relates to the 'religious'. Just saying.

I agree there are some messed religious nutjobs out there. They often take translated bible writing way to literal when it is figurative.
Example would be 6 days of creation is really 6 ages that lasted millions of years.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Okay then.
Thanks for your measured response.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StalkerSolent

Fairly certain ethics professors aren't that different from other professors...

Fairly certain that the discipline in which the person is affirmed a "professor" makes a whole HELL of a lot of difference.

You are asserting that a 'professor' of Phys Ed is the same as a 'professor' of Math? Or a 'professor' of Spanish is the same as a 'professor' of Political Science?

Please.

Nope. Not asserting they are the same, because they aren't. Are you asserting that ethics professors do not write books that contain their opinions?

a reply to: Seed76

I see you still haven't bothered to post a citation for your quote. Using someone else's work without giving proper credit is considered dishonest by many. It's also against the T&C of this site, just for your future reference.

I've already pointed out to you that my comment about Stalin is actually contained within your quote, wherever that came from. Calling out my comment (which was made directly to another member, by the by, in response to something they said and in the context of what they said) as a half-truth is just spurious.

Best,

a reply to: StalkerSolent

I didn't say they don't write books. I objected to the "blogs and such" part. Yes, academics are EXPECTED to write - Journal articles and Books.

I am asserting that professors of Ethics would not limit their syllabi to 'their opinion'.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StalkerSolent

I didn't say they don't write books. I objected to the "blogs and such" part. Yes, academics are EXPECTED to write - Journal articles and Books.

Yes. In which they would presumably have opinions.

I am asserting that professors of Ethics would not limit their syllabi to 'their opinion'.

I never asserted they would. That would be a terrible way to run a class! But that doesn't mean that bringing your opinion into the class is a bad idea (indeed, to not do so is impossible, because the professor's opinion is what picked the resources in the syllabus in the first place...)

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: windword

I do find the twaddle of some fundamentalists entirely tedious.

Being a Christian myself, I often find myself struggling to see the Christian ethic in the actions, statements, and attitudes held by fundamentalists, and I think the main problem is that these fundamentalists are fundamentally wrong about the things in our faith they opt to focus on, and uphold.

They cast aside the love that Jesus taught his disciples, and uphold only the fury and vengence of the Old Testament, and in so doing, they fail entirely to edify and glorify the name of Christ, and glorifying his name by good works and living in love and peace is something that all people who believe in the Lord of Lords, who hold Jesus word as their creed, should aspire to do. It is on not any single one of us, nor any large group, to dictate to those who do not hold our beliefs, about what is right and wrong. We are not permitted, nor are we fit, to chastise those who do not meet OUR approval.

And that is the crux of the problem. These fundamentalists do not understand that their actions are tantamount to replacing the mercy of Christ, with the judgement of the individual believer, and this is frankly heresy in its purest form, a greater heresy in my eyes, than all the buggery, all the Satanism, all the things traditionally associated with Un-Christian behaviour. Of course, my opinion is no more important in the grand scheme of things, than is the weight of a single drop of rain, when compared against an ocean. Moreover, it is no more my right to judge my fellow Christians, than it is for them to judge everyone else.

I just find it very sad, thats all.

Can I ask an honest question? How do you (for lack of a better term) "pick and choose" which parts of the bible you consider true? Why should the old testament be ignored, or downplayed, or whatever, if it's part of the bible? I'm honestly trying to understand your worldveiw, not attacking it.

a reply to: StalkerSolent

because the professor's opinion is what picked the resources in the syllabus in the first place...

No, not really. The professor's syllabus is based on what the university or college that employs them determines overall is appropriate.

a reply to: dr1234

Well I am a CHRISTian. It is literally in the name.

So naturally, I focus on what Jesus said and did in his life, the approach he had toward all people. There are no examples of Jesus Christ being a hateful jerk toward people, and there are many examples of him being astoundingly wonderful, toward persons who were considered pariah in their time. He broke bread with everyone, from whores to vagabonds, from cut purses to taxmen. The only people he delivered wrath toward, were the traders in the temple, when he cast them out, and turned over their counting tables.

If you take the sun total of Jesus' message to humanity through the Bible, you get the sense that what he was driving at was a simple principle of loving people, and not forcing anything on them what so ever.

The Old Testament was what lead to his arrival, from the Christian perspective it was essentially back story to the main event, the arrival of the Saviour. It laid out the groundwork for everything that lead up to Jesus birth, from the beginning, all the way up to the escape from Egypt and the commandments, to the story of David and Goliath.

As I may have mentioned in another thread, I am also very much aware of science, and so I know that the universe coming into being over a period of seven days, not to mention there being no mention of a giant population of megafauna in the Genesis story, is likely to be allegory, designed to replace a complicated reality in the mind of the scribes who first wrote down these stories, with one more suited to their ability to comprehend.

However, reading and obsessing over the Old Testament teaches one little about the way we are meant to behave going forward. Jesus however, had much to say on that topic, and the vast majority of it can be boiled down to "Hey... Don't be a complete jackass to everyone. Love everyone, be kind to people, do right by people, even if it puts you out to do so. Don't judge people either. You aren't perfect, and you never will be, so leave people to it, and help them muddle through when they need it."

a reply to: windword

FINALLY! A useful list of organizations I can sign up for in order to rise through the ranks of the secret conspiracy to kill all of the Christians.

a reply to: SevenThunders

Small typo on your post

Christianity is the most persecuted majority in the entire world.

originally posted by: zackli
a reply to: windword

FINALLY! A useful list of organizations I can sign up for in order to rise through the ranks of the secret conspiracy to kill all of the Christians.

You should be reported to authorities for inciting violence and murder upon a group. You have serious issues.

a reply to: windword

What bugs me is that these nutters get to claim the family values group titles. Otherwise I just ignore their daily drivel and monotonous holy than thou diarrhea.

I know a smattering of good christian folk, and right along side them I know a darn good woman who was gang raped and became a buddhist nun and has done amazing work with families with abused children.
Throw in there gaggle of moral people who happen to be atheists, I number them too amongst my friends.
Two mums that spent a year in hospital with their son when he was born with serious complications and the 20 year old gay who volunteers 14 hours a week to lifeline and I think there are some darn good lovers of family values.

These Yelly - look at me I'm doing it right - People hurt my face and I wish they'd shut their bums. Whiffy nonsense comes out of them.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Words hurt, you know. Also, I know you're talking to the post and not me, but did it ever occur to your post that perhaps maybe it was facetious? At all?

I hope you think very deeply about what I've written. Then, apply the whole thing (particularly the facetious part) to your entire life.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StalkerSolent

because the professor's opinion is what picked the resources in the syllabus in the first place...

No, not really. The professor's syllabus is based on what the university or college that employs them determines overall is appropriate.

That just depends. At my school, we can have the same class, but different readings and textbooks based on the professor.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

NPR gets a non insignificant portion of it's funding from US government grants, something approaching 6 percent. A lot of their funding comes from the usual globalist/leftist sources such as the Ford foundation, Robert Wood Johnson foundation, and a bunch of money from Nazi sympathizer and leftist George Soros.

NPR was outed recently gladly receiving money from gun toting muslim terrorists. It is a well known leftist propaganda arm of the globalists.

However what really alarms me is the vitriol that remains against persecuted christians. You people are no different than the German public during Nazi Germany. You would fire up the concentration camps at the drop of a hat. Absolutely nothing has been learned from history.

They have played you like a fiddle. When the media says hate christians, you ask how much? If the media says support forced vaccinations, you sign a petition to restrict your medical freedoms. When they ridicule someone you join in. Hate Sarah Palin, OK, yup. Call tax protestors and libertarians tea baggers, absolutely. You can't even see it because you are so trapped in the matrix.

May your chains rest on you lightly and may you avoid the coming judgment, if you can.

a reply to: SevenThunders

However what really alarms me is the vitriol that remains against persecuted christians. You people are no different than the German public during Nazi Germany. You would fire up the concentration camps at the drop of a hat. Absolutely nothing has been learned from history.

If that's what you get from reading Buzzy's posts, I think you need to seek professional help, really. Christians are not being persecuted and we're not in Nazi Germany. Your big ole Boogie man, ISIS, is an Equal Opportunity terrorist organization. They hate everybody equally.

You're not getting the reaction of horror and sympathy your seeking because nobody's buying your false martyrdom. But, if you truly believe that you and other Christians are being persecuted by biblical proportions, then you should rejoice, for the end is near!

Why bother with an Anti-Christian Bigotry Map? It's all already been written and ordained, that Christians will be persecuted and then, YEAH!, all Hell breaks loose and your Jesus comes to save the day? Why try to stop it?

Or, are these people trying to ignite a $%*t storm to bring about Armageddon, to "hasten the hand of the Lord"?

Jesus Christ, more bigotry and hatred coming from the christian right..,
Will wonders never cease?

a reply to: windword

Christians are not being persecuted? Whats this then?
www.cnn.com...

O wait it's from that known right wing source CNN.

You leftists are absolutely pathetic.

This site has become rife with Islamic apologists, radical atheists, and Obama loving Marxists. I also feel a lot of you are paid CIA shills, drawn from the aforementioned anti-American and anti-christian groups.