Iran's Revolutionary Guard conducts military drill against replica US carrier

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I think the point he's making is that if they had the ability, then they wouldn't hesitate to eradicate the Americans from the map along with Israel. Hence, why try and appease these fanatics in any way shape or form.

originally posted by: big_BHOY
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I think the point he's making is that if they had the ability, then they wouldn't hesitate to eradicate the Americans from the map along with Israel. Hence, why try and appease these fanatics in any way shape or form.

I doubt they're suicidal either

Additionally:

this is the country that obama, kerry and many say wants peace and not hell bent on the destruction of the U.S., or it's allies.

No, this is a country in which Netanyahu is trying to sell a war on, trust him and you're basically signing into a pact with the devil.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: hounddoghowlie

The USA is ALWAYS threatening war. So is Israel.

And if/when the USA does attack aircraft carriers will be the main tool used.

So it seems pretty prudent to me that they practice attacking aircraft carries.



Im sure the USA has done plenty o drills on attacking Iranian targets too!


Or is it another hypocritical case of the saying only the USA are allowed to defend themselves?

Ewok. What they Iranians are failing to realize here is that IF a Carrier attacked them It would not be in the gulf to begin with at first. The US navy knows the difficulties of being in such a confined space. Alot of Irans weapons are short range as in within the persian gulf calmer waters. A carrier attack would happen outside the gulf at first. A combination of Cruise missiles and Wild weasel/bombing missions to disable their defenses.

If Iran really wanted to test their mettle they would let some "terrorist"aka their relgious fanatic army Take some of their ships out to sea and try to sink a carrier. That way they have deniability and a live fire test all in one.

originally posted by: yuppa

If Iran really wanted to test their mettle they would let some "terrorist"aka their relgious fanatic army Take some of their ships out to sea and try to sink a carrier. That way they have deniability and a live fire test all in one.

But the didn't they?

They attacked a mock dummy.

No Americans were hurt.

So who cares?

If Iran want to waste there military budget on silly mock models so what?

a reply to: crazyewok

I know they didnt. Attacking a defenseless mock up is diffrent is what i am saying. If they want a better testthey have to step it up. use prisoners or something and add in defenses to the mock up. install a system that approximates the ciws defenses. Till then its a useless exersise really.

Nice unrealistic dog and pony show.
I see some are unfamiliar with such a show .WE had something in service called the MILLION DALLAR minute where a heavy unit would expend it's ammo over the course of one minute...ITS A SHOW.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I've seen em do that at NTC JUST to get rid of all the tank rounds they had instead of bringing them back!!!

Speed boats and small arms fire is the Iranian plan.......Are these buys really this stupid.? Maybe they should get the flying boats out.

originally posted by: SubTruth
Speed boats and small arms fire is the Iranian plan.......Are these buys really this stupid.? Maybe they should get the flying boats out.

well those dont work on rough seas. the sea has to be smooth for erkanoplanes. also the iranians boats dont have range to hit outside the gulf.

a reply to: HomerinNC

Are there videos of one?

Do you honestly believe that the US currently has no up to date plans to invade Iran, North Korea or even alleged 'friendly' country's like the UK and Canada etc?

I will bet they have up to date plans to invade Mexico.

I do know they had red dawn plans if Russia tried to invade the US through Alaska and Canada.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

I only read your post and a few of the replies, but I had a good LOL over that line of speed boats. I wonder if they think any of the tactics that they put on 'display' would be effective or if they think even ONE of the boats would get with in a few miles of a carrier group.

because I can tell you, they would be blown out of the water in very short order. That one missile I saw do a little pop up maneuver was neat but honestly it was just a fancy fireworks show and would do about as much damage as one.

Unless Iran used ALLLLOT of BrahMos II hypersonic anti ship missile. Or maybe china will give then a DF-21d

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nuclear DF-21D(I think one is just a kinetic/conventional kill warhead)

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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

How dare Iran decide to have a country that is surrounded by US military bases and active military action!

Seriously though, it is not Iran who is the warmonger and this is coming from someone who was in the US Navy.

a reply to: penroc3


The carrier will stay outside of those weapons envelope and eliminates them one by one. what I don't get is why everyone thinks one carrier is a big deal. We lost 11 during ww2 didn't change nothing.

a reply to: Greathouse

The DF-21D nuclear version is a IRBM. it has a very long reach. You might think losing 'only' one carrier is not a bog deal but allot of sailors work on them and if they use a nuclear warhead it will wipe out allot of the carrier group. If it's one boat or 10 boats is still a act of war.

this is not world war 2, China needs the US way more then we need them.

The DF-21D has a range of 1,500 miles. A carrier can stay 3000 miles away and still pound the # out of them.

"I just get tired of watching some people sit around here and bang their drums. When they don't have any ideal what song they're even playing."

( The quote is not directed at you)

a reply to: Greathouse


this is very true. Does China have missile subs? I would think you should attach the DF-21D's warhead(s) for greater reach?

I'm no China fan boy, but the DF-21D is a neat missile tech.

Seeing as Iran is backed up by Russia do you think that Russia would help field some of there own(Russia) cutting edge defensive/offensive stuff if the US did invade Iran? I don't think Russia would let Iran fall because if it did we(USA) would be on there door step. How far do you think Russia would go to help there friend?

this is the country that obama, kerry and many say wants peace and not hell bent on the destruction of the U.S., or it's allies.
for those fan boys that are more than likely to come in and defend them. please are you that ignorant.

was that really necessary?
you don't think its within a governments best interests to practice drills against mock enemy positions? an enemy that has many a time threatened you and parked his ships on your coast?

for crying out loud, grow up! its the real world....

the thing is the US has no plans or reason to invade Iran. Air strike at one point maybe but absolutely no Imminent invasion plans.

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A6 Intruder loaded with Rockeye cluster bombs vs Boghammar speed boats is like watching a carnival game.

On 18 April, the U.S. Navy attacked with several groups of surface warships, plus aircraft from the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, and her cruiser escort, USS Truxtun. The action began with coordinated strikes by two surface groups.
One surface action group, or SAG, consisting of the destroyers USS Merrill and USS Lynde McCormick, plus the amphibious transport dock USS Trenton and its embarked Marine Air Ground Task Force and the LAMPS (Light Airborne MultiPurpose System) Helicopter Detachment (HSL-44 Det 5) from USS Samuel B. Roberts, was ordered to destroy the guns and other military facilities on the Sassan oil platform. At 8am, the SAG commander, who was also the commander of Destroyer Squadron 9, ordered Merrill to radio a warning to the occupants of the platform, telling them to abandon it. The SAG waited 20 minutes, then opened fire. The oil platform fired back with twin-barrelled 23mm ZU-23 guns. The SAG's guns eventually disabled some of the ZU-23s, and platform occupants radioed a request for a cease-fire. The SAG complied. After a tug carrying more personnel had cleared the area, the ships resumed exchanging fire with the remaining ZU-23s, and ultimately disabled them. Cobra helicopters completed the destruction of enemy resistance. The Marines boarded the platform, and recovered a single wounded survivor (who was transported to Bahrain), some small arms, and intelligence. The Marines planted explosives, left the platform, and detonated them. The SAG was then ordered to proceed north to the Rakhsh oil platform to destroy it.
As the SAG departed the Sassan oil field, two Iranian F-4s made an attack run, but broke off when Lynde McCormick locked its fire control radar on the aircraft. Halfway to the Rahksh oil platform, the attack was called off in an attempt to ease pressure on the Iranians and signal a desire for de-escalation.
The other group, which included guided missile cruiser USS Wainwright and frigates USS Simpson and USS Bagley , attacked the Sirri oil platform. Navy SEALs were assigned to capture, occupy and destroy the Sirri platform but due to heavy pre-assault damage from naval gunfire, it was determined that an assault was not required.