i was laughed at few years ago on ATS about computer spying

This was before snowden, I was made the biggest fool of ATS, I don't blame you guys, every day people are called fools on ATS by active posters even when they are telling verifiable truth, human nature I guess

This was few years ago, I don't even remember my exact nick nor would I be able to remember the password for that account

Few years ago I made a thread on ATS how even if you have the most paranoid firewalls and operating system functioning on FREEZE AND COMMAND. Government agents will simply walk into your home and office when you are in store or something and install Trojans, which is what happened to me at the time

Yup, they will actually walk in, do the job, and walk out and lock your home behind them

Forgot to say

They don't do this to everybody, only if you are interesting to them for whatever reason

If you are activist of some sort

In my case I made at the time biggest mistake of my life and applied for intelligence type work, and then found out about building 7, and told government screw this, that's how it started, but in a way it empowered me to speak out on many issues

Yeah, ATS for a conspiracy themed site, doesn't seem to in general tolerate conspiracy talk much anymore. It's allmost like the plan is to migrate into a general chit chat type forum. Pretty much anything posted is gang debunked. Not much room here these days for discussion on far out subjects.

Kind of a bummer really

I strongly believe, that a totalitarian system, or one world order if you wish, is the way to go.
Total control will require chips in everyone to monitor etc. Cameraes on every street, etc.
How else will they cope with more and more people? It's just not possible with 10 billion + people in the world, all with EVERY truth that exist.

50 years ago it was easy, just lie to people, how would they ever find out. Today you see the truth/conspiracy about 9/11 everywhere, why aren't people rioting?
It's simple. FEAR.

Why don't people take food from the market, just take it and not pay? Fear.
Why don't people stand up for themselves and kill another man, we are animals right? Fear.

What is this fear? Fear of getting imprisoned.

Now.. What would happen if, say. 3 billion people rioted at the same time? Chaos, the rich would go down, no doubt about it. Anarchy would soon fill the streets, deaths would come shortly after, and we would become alot more primitive.

Now, again, a more controlled society would mean less crime. Who gives a rats ass if they see you watching porn.

Criminals hate cops.

do you have links to your original thread?

a reply to: caterpillage

Yeah I know what you mean

One word.... Let's make it 2 words for fun

Arthurs Shillingtons

No, I'll try to find it
But if it was 404ed at some point once nobody was looking at it, it would be gone for good

originally posted by: SBargisen
I strongly believe, that a totalitarian system, or one world order if you wish, is the way to go.
Total control will require chips in everyone to monitor etc. Cameraes on every street, etc.
How else will they cope with more and more people? It's just not possible with 10 billion + people in the world, all with EVERY truth that exist.

Oh my God, are you serious

Dude, they don't want to just control us for sake of control, they want to depopulate us, change our genes, turn us into subspecies

DESTROY US IN THE LONG TERM

Geesh

originally posted by: PizzaAnyday505
This was before snowden, I was made the biggest fool of ATS, I don't blame you guys, every day people are called fools on ATS by active posters even when they are telling verifiable truth, human nature I guess

I'm not buying this, Snowden only put the rubber stamp on it. No harm meant OP, but there is a need for you to do a reprise.

Just like people laugh at RFID chips to the notion that blood flows through the body, everything seems to be ridiculed before it is accepted. If we told people 40 years ago that everyone would have a box in their kitchen that heats food without a flame but with microwaves, most would have laughed and made a star trek joke. Think people laughed at your computer spying ? Think about in the 17th century how they must have laughed at the idea of a computer, a box with a window that shows you moving pictures of anything , anywhere and anyone you want to see. and naked !!!!

originally posted by: SBargisen
ICriminals hate cops.

I'd been wondering when you were going to say something like that, even had me read your whole spiel.

I've made predictions that came true many times and have been ridiculed. My problems is that those predictions were some 10 to 20 years in the future. Of course, the deniers wold most likely not admit that now that many of those predictions have come to pass. I'm not going to be a "told you so" anyway, I'll just keep looking ahead and realize I'm probably right regardless.

Dude it's been almost 20 years since the general public knows about computer spying.

You never heard about Echelon?
whatreallyhappened.com...

What's this thread about? Trolls telling you you are wrong?


Also I would very much like to know more about these agents installing trojans on your PC. Like what they looked like and why you think the are watching you?

originally posted by: SBargisen
I strongly believe, that a totalitarian system, or one world order if you wish, is the way to go.
Total control will require chips in everyone to monitor etc. Cameraes on every street, etc.
How else will they cope with more and more people? It's just not possible with 10 billion + people in the world, all with EVERY truth that exist.

50 years ago it was easy, just lie to people, how would they ever find out. Today you see the truth/conspiracy about 9/11 everywhere, why aren't people rioting?
It's simple. FEAR.

Why don't people take food from the market, just take it and not pay? Fear.
Why don't people stand up for themselves and kill another man, we are animals right? Fear.

What is this fear? Fear of getting imprisoned.

Now.. What would happen if, say. 3 billion people rioted at the same time? Chaos, the rich would go down, no doubt about it. Anarchy would soon fill the streets, deaths would come shortly after, and we would become alot more primitive.

Now, again, a more controlled society would mean less crime. Who gives a rats ass if they see you watching porn.

Criminals hate cops.

Totalitarianism is defined as "a political system in which the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever possible."

Chips in everyone to monitor us is the only way?

There is so much wrong with what you said I can't even begin to reply. I'm just going to assume your a troll or someone replaced your brain with that of say Joseph Goebbels or Hermann Göring.

/absolute power corrupts absolutely
//oppression isn't an ideal to strive for
///George Orwell's 1984, i'd say read it but you probably consider it an instruction manual for a perfect society

a reply to: PizzaAnyday505


Did your last username have andy in the title?

originally posted by: caterpillage
Yeah, ATS for a conspiracy themed site, doesn't seem to in general tolerate conspiracy talk much anymore. It's allmost like the plan is to migrate into a general chit chat type forum. Pretty much anything posted is gang debunked. Not much room here these days for discussion on far out subjects.

Kind of a bummer really

I agree I miss the good old days also. ATS is a very special place and it still is the best place for fringe topics. I think with the way the word has changed after 9/11 conspiracies have moved mainstream. Many people are questioning the government and the NWO. This is why we see this shift in topics and interest as of late.



People see changes and wonder why...........ATS helps them find out why.

originally posted by: blupblup
Did your last username have andy in the title?

Maybe, I just don't recall, I tried to find the thread to no avail but it doesn't matter you already know what it was about

originally posted by: Develo
Also I would very much like to know more about these agents installing trojans on your PC. Like what they looked like and why you think the are watching you?

There is not much to tell, by today's standards the story is just average

I applied for a legit position within intelligence agency, we all know the name of the main one. And in the process of getting the job I found out that building 7 was imploded, which immediately proved to me 9/11 was black ops

I told the agency that I am no longer interested, and I may have said something like you guys don't even know what your original mandate was, I may have mentioned building 7

And that's how it started, I still have pictures of 2 civilian clothed men coming into my home and leaving locking the door behind them

Later on I was playing with my registry and found a spying program called CASElink which I isolated copied and used an expert to access and disassemble, program is sophisticated upload download Trojan with sections in it for specific reports to CIA FBI even CSIS and other agencies, so in other words a general use Trojan for whoever needs it

I also found my car tampered with, things moved out of place as no doubt agents were in and out installing bugs etc, but nothing stolen, my 500 bucks sunglasses (I don't use cheap plastic sunglasses) was not taken nor small change

This is classical story for anyone being spied on

I am not special in any way

a reply to: PizzaAnyday505

That's what you get for having an opinion not originating from upon high.

a reply to: blupblup

Did your last username have andy in the title?

Not to many that cool!