White House REFUSES To Call 21 Beheading Victims CHRISTIANS In Statement Against ISIS Attack

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
I find this to be an odd thing not to mention considering that the whole reason they were chosen for the beheading was their faith. Would the reason have been brought up if it was 21 gays or women that didn't cover themselves properly being victimized?

Of course it would have.

Remember the threads about tossing gays off the rooftop, and how all of us talked about how horrible that was?

Remember the threads after the Charlie Hebdo attacks that dug up every Muslim victim of the incident just so we could point out how it wasn't really Islamic terrorism?

But see how it's no appropriate at all to call it out when it is Christians who are beheaded.

Oh yes, I even remember talking about how awfully the Yazidis were and are treated. You know the ones who haven't yet been massacred.

Nope it's only wrong if you talk about it happening to Christians.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

And the fact that they're picking one religion doesn't make someone having their head lopped off any worse. That's my point. They're people, and they died a horrible death. So what if they were Christian.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

And the fact that they're picking one religion doesn't make someone having their head lopped off any worse. That's my point. They're people, and they died a horrible death. So what if they were Christian.

Hear no evil. See no evil. Say no evil.

Evil doesn't happen to Christians. Only to "people."

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That is a hope we both share but in reality until they are gone the us needs to pick up the pace.

Standing by and letting this continue out of some sense of fairrness so the whole world can share the burden is just a stall tactic.

History tells us that we need to get involved beyond the pres setting up failure options through legislation.

a reply to: ketsuko

I couldn't care less what religion someone is. It didnt matter when the Jordanian pilot, a Muslim was burned, it didn't matter when the two Japanese men were executed, and it shouldn't matter now.

But all everyone gives a crap about is Obama not calling them Christian.

a reply to: IAMTAT

It would matter that there were twenty one people slaughtered like farm animals. What matters the affiliation? Does it somehow become more gruesome? Horrible?

There are twenty one people dead. ...and it's time, and past, for something concrete to be done.

I, frankly, don't give a flyin' [self-censored] to the fact they were Christians, Coptic or otherwise. I wouldn't give a rip if they were Muslim...and oh by the way IS has killed quite a few Muslims along their bloody path to a caliphate, as well. Hopefully you are as outraged about that as you are this.

As for the White House statement neglecting, for whatever reason, to mention the fact that these poor people were Christian?

That's way, way, way down the list of the problems, IMHO. Should be for you, as well.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That is a hope we both share but in reality until they are gone the us needs to pick up the pace.

Why? Looks like the problem is taking care of itself. America just screws things up in the Middle East. If they've become such a problem that even other states we consider terrorists are blowing them up, we shouldn't be happier.

Standing by and letting this continue out of some sense of fairrness so the whole world can share the burden is just a stall tactic.

Fairness? Who said anything about fairness? I'm talking about how America doesn't need to finance a war halfway around the world when others that are much closer can take care of it. We got enough problems at home to deal with.

History tells us that we need to get involved beyond the pres setting up failure options through legislation.

History only tells us that we screw EVERYTHING we've ever done in the Middle East up, starting with founding Israel. So I don't know what history books YOU are reading, but the ones I read say that we would be better off letting that place work out its differences for a while.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: TinfoilTP

That specific demographic being "anyone who isn't ISIS, even the ones who aren't ISIS enough for our liking!"...


That specific demographic?

Quit being silly.

Look at every single one of the 21 beheaded that this thread is about.
They are all Christian.

They chose the 21, they killed them, they filmed them, they attached specific threats against Rome which is the figurehead of Christianity. Yet you deny their simple one target message.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

And the fact that they're picking one religion doesn't make someone having their head lopped off any worse. That's my point. They're people, and they died a horrible death. So what if they were Christian.

If they weren't Christian they would still be alive.
You don't see a problem with persecution?
Here in the US people are so afraid someone might as much as sneer at a Muslim to make them feel uncomfortable yet deadly persecution that is real gets glossed over?

Hypocricy.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: deadeyedick



Dunno where you got that idea.







Anyways, who isn't an "Infidel" in the ISIS ideology?

Anyone willing to submit when confronted is not an enemy.

Why do you ask questions you know the answer too?

I am quite sure you can tell us why better than i can.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

So the fact that twenty one people were slaughtered is less important than twenty one Christians being slaughtered?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
If ISIS says they had just beheaded a large group of people because they were members of ATS...don't you think it would matter to ALL members of ATS?

If the president of the US made a statement about it, I wouldn't be offended if he didn't mention ATS, but instead called us US citizens. I wouldn't say he REFUSED to say that we were ATS members. If I did, I would appear to be an entitled brat.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

And yet the Jordanian pilot was a Muslim. He's quite dead. They've executed and murdered hundreds of Muslims that didn't go along with them, at least. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and say if they weren't Muslim they'd still be alive?

And you want to talk about hypocrisy?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ketsuko



I couldn't care less what religion someone is. It didnt matter when the Jordanian pilot, a Muslim was burned, it didn't matter when the two Japanese men were executed, and it shouldn't matter now.



But all everyone gives a crap about is Obama not calling them Christian.

Completly false statment.

It mattered much when the pilot was burnt because it caused his country that was sitting idly by to realize they have a reason to fight. It made it personal to them specifically.

That is why it is wrong for obama to not call an orange an orange.

If we just look back hussian has used this tactic of changing words many times to try to lessen the impact his brothers are having on the usa

originally posted by: deadeyedick
It is interesting to learn that you are inside the minds of isis members.

Well, a lot of people here seem to think they're inside the mind of the president... (or whoever wrote the White House Statement).

Does anyone think these poor souls are now up in Heaven saying "thanks Obama", because they weren't labeled as Christians? ISIS says they slaughtered them because they follow the Cross but they've killed other humans of every flavor now, including other Muslims of their particular brand. So does it even matter what ISIS says anymore when it's clear they have no clear intentions on anything but murder? Seems they're desperately trying to give everyone a reason to paint them with bulls-eyes.

The Muslims in the Egyptian government bombed the crap out of ISIS in retaliation... why did you refuse to mention that?

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Yep, they killed Christians for that exact sort of response.


Same way they want to rile up Yazidis when they kill them.

& Jordanians when they kill them.

& Japanese people when they kill them.

& Muslims when they kill them.

& Kurds (whatever Faith) when they kill them.

& Americans when they kill them.

& Gays when they kill them.

& Syrians when they kill them.

& they want each and everyone of us riled up...


Well they've been successful...

Now...

What do we do?

Fight on seperate fronts... As they want?

Or combine as Humanity to exterminate this scourge?



Quit being silly?

Sure, when you do the same.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So the fact that twenty one people were slaughtered is less important than twenty one Christians being slaughtered?

The fact that real persecution is being swept under the rug is the problem.
We go out of our way passing laws protecting minorities of any type, race religion, what have you, but can't accept at face value what real persecution is. Persecution requires tougher response than plain ordinary criminal behavior.

The picture being painted is rotten to the core.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Fool just because you do not identify with christians does not mean you are ot identified with christians.

I will tell you what.

All of you in support of sticking our thumbs up our rears give us a number of how many lives they will have to take before you get distracted from the sensations you get from sitting around.

The numbr can be anywhere between 1 and 8 billion

you decide

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Of course. It's not persecution for them to slaughter other Muslims, or women and children. But harm a hair on a Christians head and it's persecution.