Christianity is a death cult

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Yet Islam still teaches eternal life. By your reasoning, they are not a death cult.

How can god blame those born into Islam? If they were indoctrinated into the religion, made to believe a lie through no fault of their own, why do they deserve to go to hell? God sending them to hell is unfair, they didn't choose to be born into the religion.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Like I said I know the Jew's come around because it's been prophesied I hope all come around, perhaps it's all part of the plan and you make the choice before you come and take your stand...

And also how could you create any new religion that would teach anything other than eternal life?

hey join my church of earth only good for this life!
Any takers?

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

you don't want to know what I think about Islam and the false prophet with the mark of the beast filled with wrath that will take your head should you fail to convert...

Please please me; I want to know?

Another interesting fact is why people worship a Jesus they don't know. A Christian cannot know a Jesus of the gospels because he doesn't exist. He died 2000 years ago. The only Jesus a Christian can now know is a risen Christ...one who sits in power, authority, wealth and honor. One who calls believers brothers which makes them sons of God. Yet millions worship what he was...not who he is. Odd aye!

originally posted by: SanitySearcher
Another interesting fact is why people worship a Jesus they don't know. A Christian cannot know a Jesus of the gospels because he doesn't exist. He died 2000 years ago. The only Jesus a Christian can now know is a risen Christ...one who sits in power, authority, wealth and honor. One who calls believers brothers which makes them sons of God. Yet millions worship what he was...not who he is. Odd aye!

Why do people align themselves with other ideologies where a figure head is presumed to have lived yet are long dead, Mohammed, Buddha (Siddhartha), Joseph Smith and his pet Salamander, any Krishnas BECAUSE ITS SAFE, as you would (out of respect) never speak ill of the dead as they cannot assert or defend their authenticity (as they are dead) and not walking dead zombies actually; just plain dead and if someone could prove it finally (that they lived before my time and are actually dead) would be appreciated by me; a 'not dead yet' person still living.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Nochzwei

Jesus had to die on the cross and be raised up again, for if He did not ascend into Heaven, The Holy Spirit would not be in this world

Hehehe- you dont know your bible much. So when did the holy spirit come down - was it already in the pre-existing Triune god at the formation of the world out of chaos as per Genesis or did it come down many years after the death of Jesus in Acts 2: 5-13? Seems like according to you Jehovah was a different god than the New Testament one. The Holy spirit also seemed to descend on Mary impregnating her with the immaculate conception

Mary conceived of the Holy Ghost, does not mean she was born again.
I am talking of the Holy Ghost that was sent to save mankind

a reply to: Nochzwei

The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נפילים‎) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.


Luke 1:28 - And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, [thou that art] highly favoured, the Lord [is] with thee: blessed [art] thou among women.


This stands to reason that Jesus was also a Nephilim as he was the son of Gabrial.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

are calling Jesus a liar???

Did Jesus, supposedly, incarnate here on Earth for the purpose of dying?

Did the birth of Jesus cause the death of 1000's of Jewish baby boys, according to the Bible?

Did Jesus tell his followers to "pick up their cross and follow him, even unto death?

Did Jesus die for you?

Do you claim your salvation through the death and sacrifice of Jesus' life?

Will you have to die first, in order to claim your reward?

Does the Bible promise that Jesus will come back someday and destroy the world as we know it?

Death cult!

a reply to: rom12345

This stands to reason that Jesus was also a Nephilim as he was the son of Gabrial.

That's what I say too! Jesus had to have been a Nephimim, because he was the result of "The Angels".

It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels.

Pesky angels!

Nephillims were the offsprings of fallen angels. I might be a nephillim, but Jesus was certainly not a nephillim, as He was conceived of The Holy Ghost.
a reply to: rom12345

a reply to: Nochzwei

Isn't it fair to assume that the "Holy Spirit" is one in the same as the "Angel of the Lord" from the Old Testament?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Nochzwei

Isn't it fair to assume that the "Holy Spirit" is one in the same as the "Angel of the Lord" from the Old Testament?

No not really. Trinity is Father God. Jesus God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Angels are God's creation, so are not God themselves

a reply to: Nochzwei

Angel of the Lord [S]
(Heb. mal'ak yehwah). Supernatural being who bears a message on behalf of God. In many passages in the Old Testament, the angel of the Lord is identified with God, while in other instances a distinction is made between the Lord and the angel. In general, however, the terms "the angel of the Lord, " "the Lord, " and "God" are interchangeable.
www.biblestudytools.com...

So, if not the Holy Spirit, who WAS the "Angel of the Lord" from the Old Testament?

a reply to: yuppa

You do know having faith there is something after death isnt worshipping or wanting to die right?

having faith that there is something after death undermines the basis for making the most of our life here on earth.

DEath is the way out for us ALL though cause no one gets out alive.

which is why you do the right thing before the reaper comes.

One more thing. Arent people who are religious and follow the moral in the 10 commandments generally good people? You should answer that question if you answer anything.

it depends on why they follow those commandments. some very bad people did very good things because it furthered their agenda. and vice versa.

a reply to: TzarChasm

How does having faith in a afterlife sabotage what we do on earth? If anything it seems it would help you not feel hopeless that when you die everything you were ceases to be. As i f you never were even there. Also seems to me that it would free your mind up to pursue other things if you do not have that worry.


And doing the right thiing before the reaper comes. Easy to do IF you knew when you were going to die i guess right?

ANd if you are talking about the crusades those were in response to islamic incursions in reality,but th epopes took advantage of the actions at the same time. SO yes some people mis used those and twisted the meaning to fit their narratives but for th e most part many dont mis use them.

a reply to: yuppa

The majority of people part of "modern" culture (as in modern at the time) have believed in some sort of afterlife, a good majority of these "modern" people have believed in the Christian version of afterlife. What have these "modern" believers in afterlife helped to build? The world we have today. Their belief that this life doesn't matter has sabotaged our world due to complacency. Complacency about war, genocide, deforestation, pollution, etc. They have believed that this world doesn't matter, it's the one that comes AFTER that matters.

That's how belief in afterlife (in the context of religious afterlife) has sabotaged this life/world.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: yuppa

The majority of people part of "modern" culture (as in modern at the time) have believed in some sort of afterlife, a good majority of these "modern" people have believed in the Christian version of afterlife. What have these "modern" believers in afterlife helped to build? The world we have today. Their belief that this life doesn't matter has sabotaged our world due to complacency. Complacency about war, genocide, deforestation, pollution, etc. They have believed that this world doesn't matter, it's the one that comes AFTER that matters.

That's how belief in afterlife (in the context of religious afterlife) has sabotaged this life/world.

Anyone who believes that way that this life dont matter is wrong. Thats part of where you spend your afterlife is your actions in this life.

a reply to: yuppa

Not to Christians. All they need is faith, not works.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: yuppa

Not to Christians. All they need is faith, not works.

wrong. Doing unto others as you would do yourself IS a work actually. Loving someone takes work to keep that love as well.
Works dont have to be grand gestures or huge deals either. Faith without works isnt faith at all and vice versa.

a reply to: yuppa

The poster boy of Christianity says works are not required though.

Romans 4
5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

Paul promotes faith without works.

Romans 7
20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

He even says that one who believes is not the one sinning, it is the sin within them doing the sinning.

Romans 7
16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.

He further justifies this thinking by saying the one who does evil is showing that the law is good.