Operation Indigo Skyfold

originally posted by: ConnectDots

Is it true that all contrails contain chemicals because they're aircraft exhaust?

If it is, then we don't need the term "persistent contrails." Why use two words when you can use one?

Just say contrail or chemtrail.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ConnectDots

Because there is a difference between the two. You don't call a rain storm a hurricane even though they both have rain.

I’ve confused the issue, haven’t I?

Zaphod58,

Difference between which two? Contrails and persistent contrails? Or what?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
What are you saying about cirrus clouds? That by definition they're persisting contrails?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ConnectDots
You have it backwards. Contrails, persistent or not, are cirrus clouds.

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Masses of frozen water vapour floating around in the sky? No, nothing like cirrus clouds at all. Completely different thing altogether.

Who’s right and who’s wrong?

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: ConnectDots
What are you saying about cirrus clouds? That by definition they're persisting contrails?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ConnectDots
You have it backwards. Contrails, persistent or not, are cirrus clouds.

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Masses of frozen water vapour floating around in the sky? No, nothing like cirrus clouds at all. Completely different thing altogether.

Who’s right and who’s wrong?

Contrails are a type of cirrus cloud. It's not rocket science.

Tell us what's being said in this video that's wrong.

Be specific.

Preferably, tell us where it is in the video. If you know how, link to it.

Please do not bad-mouth Dane Wigington. That would be a fallacy of reason.

Here's the Description:

Published on Jan 30, 2014

. . . Planet Earth is under an all out weather warfare assault.
In this video, Dane Wigington gives another presentation in Northern California on the harmful effects of Geoengineering, declaring that there is virtually NO NATURAL WEATHER due to the massive global climate engineering. The very essentials needed to sustain life on earth are being recklessly destroyed by these programs. This is not a topic that will begin to affect us in several years, but is now already causing massive animal and plant die off around the world, as well as human illness.

The debate over whether geoengineering programs are going on is now a moot point. We have more than enough data to confirm it. We have actual footage showing tankers spraying. The materials showing up on the ground are exactly the same materials mentioned in the numerous geoengineering patents and documents. Visit our website for a list of these government patents and documents.

Our skies today are simply not normal or natural. Upon examination and observation, this cannot be denied. Our skies have been filled with grid patterns, horizon to horizon trails, and other forms of sprayed aerosol cloud formations for so long now that most now accept this completely unnatural cloud cover as "normal". Sadly, the fact is that people do not even look up.

To be clear, what we are seeing is not cloud seeding to increase rainfall. These jet sprayed nano particulates of heavy metals and chemicals are designed to block the sun and manipulate the jet stream. Dane explains how this is contributing to the droughts and deluges being experienced around the globe.

Our atmosphere is nothing but a massive physics lab to geoengineering scientists who have no concern whatsoever about the consequences to humanity or any living thing, including themselves. The experiments are literally derailing Earth's climate system and decimating the entire web of life.

Dane Wigington presents hard data which reveals what these catastrophic programs have done to our planet to date and what they will do if they are allowed to continue. Please take the time to watch this video, follow up with some investigation of your own on our site -- www.geoengineeringwatch.org..., and share this information far and wide.

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a reply to: ConnectDots

Yes, contrails and persistent contrails.

a reply to: mrthumpy

First, please understand that I’m not being sarcastic.

Again:

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Masses of frozen water vapour floating around in the sky? No, nothing like cirrus clouds at all. Completely different thing altogether.

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Contrails are a type of cirrus cloud.

Spell it out to me loud and clear.

Were you being sarcastic in your first answer?

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thank you.

I really messed that one up big time.

a reply to: ConnectDots

I don't even have to watch it to point out huge errors.

Grid patterns for example. On a daily basis there are over 20,000 commercial flights over the US alone. Add in general and business aviation and that skyrockets. Show me any possible way to fly that many aircraft anywhere and NOT see them crossing paths and leaving a grid. It can't be done unless every single one of them is flying in exactly the same direction, or parallel to each other the entire time.

Horizon to horizon spraying for another. Even using nanoaluminum, whatever that is, a 747, which is the largest commercial freight aircraft, and it would have to be a freighter, couldn't carry a fraction of the material to spray from horizon to horizon. It just can't be done.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I will digest what you've said later but I respectfully suggest that you don't know what's in this hour long video, do you? I mean this fast after I've posted it?

a reply to: ConnectDots

I've seen quite a few chemtrail videos over the years, this isn't my first rodeo. They all bring up the same points over and over again, regardless of who did it.

a reply to: ConnectDots

Please do not bad-mouth Dane Wigington. That would be a fallacy of reason.

No believing him would be a fallacy of common sense.

You do know most that have been posting in this forum long enough know Dane Wigington well enough to know he is clueless, and he loves to take gullible peoples money.

So would the truth be considered bad mouthing him?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: mrthumpy

First, please understand that I’m not being sarcastic.

Again:

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Masses of frozen water vapour floating around in the sky? No, nothing like cirrus clouds at all. Completely different thing altogether.

originally posted by: mrthumpy
Contrails are a type of cirrus cloud.

Spell it out to me loud and clear.

Were you being sarcastic in your first answer?

Totally sarcastic. My mind was refusing to entertain the possibility that you'd got as far as

Lacy or wispy clouds that form at high altitudes, generally before a change in the weather.

for a comparison and then stopped

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: Zaphod58

I will digest what you've said later but I respectfully suggest that you don't know what's in this hour long video, do you? I mean this fast after I've posted it?

As you say, it's an hour long. Perhaps YOU could be more specific in what you are asking

a reply to: mrthumpy

What do you mean stopped?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Your response is a smear of Dane Wigington in my opinion.

So, basically, I would view it as off-topic.

a reply to: mrthumpy

I am watching the video now and put it on pause to see what's going on on the forum.

I'm not asking anything in particular.

If ATS members who have been debating this topic for several months are not going to watch this video, I guess there's nothing to talk about.

a reply to: ConnectDots

You mean the video that raises the exact same points as just about every other chemtrail video out there?

originally posted by: Thorneblood
Guess we will find out soon enough
Pastbin


"After several years with maintained access to NASA drone servers thanks to the dark army, ..........

Also we want NASA to stop lying and disclose its technological capabilities and accomplishments relating to black project operations for like Operation Indigo Skyfold, Alternatives 1, 2, and 3, Solar Warden, the Earth Defense Force and the Mars Defense Force.

Yeah...I'm not going to hold my breath!

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: mrthumpy

I'm not asking anything in particular.

so you are just spamming then??

What's YOUR point??

Why should anyone watch 77 minutes of video on a topic for which the "pro-" side is well known for spreading disinformation, rumour, speculation and outright lies?

If you cannot identify something in there that is worth my time then why should I bother trying??

a reply to: Zaphod58
I have no idea. I haven't watched all the videos out there. You obviously have. So, end of discussion, I suppose.

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Spamming?

Is that the right choice of words, based on my posts so far?

a reply to: ConnectDots

I haven't watched all of them, but all of them that I HAVE watched raise almost the exact same points. Grid patterns, circling aircraft, horizon to horizon trails, ballast testing aircraft as supposed sprayers, military tankers as supposed sprayers, etc.