Operation Indigo Skyfold

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Are you saying that it's okay to execute someone based on witness testimony, but not to discover the answer to the question of the existence of chemtrails?

Another post ignoring the questions and going off on unrelated tangents....

Who has been assassinated because they testified about the existence of chemtrails?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
.... that science and academia is brought to you compliments of the powers that be - the shadow government - who are professionals at manipulation and deception to further their agenda, not the agenda of we the people.

And that's where you are quite wrong. Science is a process that you can apply yourself! Did you watch the video above where a water gun is filled with boiling water and fired into sub zero outside temperatures to see if it creates a contrail..... AND IT DOES. how did the shadow government influence that particular experiment?

That you think this way says everything about why you believe what these fringe websites tell you. And no, that's not sarcastic or derogatory in any way. It's my observation of this thread.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: payt69

The citizens hearing on disclosure is about UFO's though, right? We know governments lie about thing, and UFO's could very well be one of those subjects. But that doesn't mean that chemtrails suddenly are true.. or unicorns, or Nessie, or anything else.

If you could begin to eliminate sarcasm, such as I underlined in your quote above, it would facilitate civil debate.

Here is the reason the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure is important and very relevant.

Whistleblowers are ridiculed and brushed off by people who believe they have science and academia on their side. However, that science and academia is brought to you compliments of the powers that be - the shadow government - who are professionals at manipulation and deception to further their agenda, not the agenda of we the people.

Project Camelot is vilified and ridiculed by the same people.

So, in order to break out of that mindset, people need to start somewhere.

The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure should be something that people can open their minds to.

Once the mind is opened, miracles can happen.

having been a bit of a UFO enthusiast (and I still am, to some extent), I did listen to the citizens hearing on disclosure as soon as it was available online, back in the day. I thought it was quite interesting, and do have an open mind regarding UFO's.

The thing is that there actually is some pretty compelling evidence regarding UFO's. The same cannot be said of chemtrails however. My experience is that the main pushers of chemtrails are dishonest, Dane Wigington being a case in point.

I'm open to evidence for chemtrails, but it does seem to require a miracle to actually get any.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: payt69
How does that contribute to the discussion?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: payt69
How does that contribute to the discussion?

What are you referring to?

Maybe you can contribute some evidence to the discussion?

Or maybe it's time for you to admit that there's nothing tangible you can present to make your case?

a reply to: ConnectDots

So did a Thai 747 NOT have a flap problem, dump fuel and land at Munich? Was this NOT filmed with time date and location all corresponding with said incident?

Did Dane NOT then put this up as a chemtrail video?

Is it NOT still there despite check able corrections being sent to him?

Time to take your blinkers off dude.

Whilst you persist in defending this behaviour as "the truth as he sees it" you can have no credibility yourself in this discussion.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: payt69
How does that contribute to the discussion?

The same way that your countless off-topic posts do.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

The whistleblower AC Griffith said people have died over this. He was not being interviewed on assassinations so he did not elaborate on the names.

Additionally,

originally posted by: ConnectDots
During the interview, Griffith mentions that one of the key people who designed the barium salt aerosol was set up by people in the Reagan administration and is now sitting in a federal penitentiary, and they still go to him to ask him questions.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Tit for tat, huh?

Do you believe ridicule is a valid debate technique?

a reply to: ConnectDots
And another post ignoring the requests for evidence, and instead going off on unrelated tangents about assassinations...Do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion or not?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

The whistleblower AC Griffith said people have died over this. He was not being interviewed on assassinations so he did not elaborate on the names.

Additionally,

originally posted by: ConnectDots
During the interview, Griffith mentions that one of the key people who designed the barium salt aerosol was set up by people in the Reagan administration and is now sitting in a federal penitentiary, and they still go to him to ask him questions.

So what? Are we simply supposed to take his word for it? I'm sorry, but I'm not very much of a cult guy. Even his own son Charles has stated that his dad was liar.

You make it seem like we're supposed to cling to every word Griff had to say.. If he'd told us that the moon is made out of apple pie, are we just to take his word for it?

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

The whistleblower AC Griffith said people have died over this. He was not being interviewed on assassinations so he did not elaborate on the names.

Additionally,

originally posted by: ConnectDots
During the interview, Griffith mentions that one of the key people who designed the barium salt aerosol was set up by people in the Reagan administration and is now sitting in a federal penitentiary, and they still go to him to ask him questions.

And there you have it. You believe it's true because someone you really want to believe said so, despite not supporting the claim with ANY specific information whatsoever, and here you are taking us to task over every little thing we say.

Your viewpoint is way to narrow and biased to have any meaningful discussion. Lord knows we've tried. At least my viewpoint is based off ten years research, not a vague claim from a guy on the Internet!

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
Do you believe ridicule is a valid debate technique?

Nope, which is why I've refrained from ridiculing you (despite really, really wanting to). Do you believe ignoring valid questions in favor of incessantly going off on unrelated tangents about assassinations and UFOs is a valid debate technique?

originally posted by: waynos
And that's where you are quite wrong. Science is a process that you can apply yourself!

I agree with you there, and it's the best science there is, in my opinion.

The shadow government influences university education by funding it and controlling it. Peer review has turned into tyranny which virtually eliminates alternative views in science. That's why mavericks have to take to the internet. The shadow government also controls medical schools and medical journals. They implement their agenda slowly but surely in this way.

a reply to: ConnectDots

Another tangential post unrelated to chemtrails. Quit playing games. If you have any evidence of chemtrails, post it. If not, admit it, and let's move on.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: waynos
And that's where you are quite wrong. Science is a process that you can apply yourself!

I agree with you there, and it's the best science there is, in my opinion.

The shadow government influences university education by funding it and controlling it. Peer review has turned into tyranny which virtually eliminates alternative views in science. That's why mavericks have to take to the internet. The shadow government also controls medical schools and medical journals. They implement their agenda slowly but surely in this way.

So umm are we going back to the subject of chemtrails anytime soon?

Even if all of the things you just stated are true, you still haven't provided evidence for chemtrails.

a reply to: payt69

And you must not be listening.

Or, are you simply digging in your heels?

As in us and them?

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I have posted it.

You just refuse to look at it.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, please pay me the courtesy of scrolling the thread to seek to understand first, before replying again.

originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I have posted it.

You just refuse to look at it.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, please pay me the courtesy of scrolling the thread to seek to understand first, before replying again.

You've posted no evidence whatsoever of chemtrails. All you've posted is random statements claiming chemtrails exist, without offering anything of substance to back them up. We've been over this. More than once.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

If you are going to understand what I'm talking about, instead of repeating your demands, you're going to have to listen:

originally posted by: ConnectDots

For anyone new reading this post, here is a link to an interview of whistleblower AC Griffith:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

During the interview, Griffith mentions that one of the key people who designed the barium salt aerosol was set up by people in the Reagan administration and is now sitting in a federal penitentiary, and they still go to him to ask him questions.