UK Government child stealing exposed by EU

a reply to: Shamrock6

See that's the crux of the problem. I don't really think the woman in question knows which set of figures she is presenting which begs the question how accurate is said information in the first place?

To be quite frank she seem to me to be rather confused and out of sort, if the information does have any creditability someone with more experience regrading these matters should have presented said info because the lady in question does noting regarding the addition of credibility to the argument.

originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: paraphi
What is the point of this thread. The first video has no context. What is the woman railing about?

The second video was posted by yourself in another thread.

Regards

Quite - he seems to be trying to shoehorn some debate about UK Family Courts (and all that comes with them) into the Paedophile conspiracy doing the rounds at the moment.

THE TWO ARE NOT RELATED and if the OP knew anything about them, he'd know this.

How do you know the 2 aren't related? You seem 100% sure that they aren't related. Please can you tell me how you acquired this factual 100% true information?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TechUnique

Not saying people or children are not going missing but if there were indeed 100,000 or even 1000 children being disappeared or abducted by our government every month im sure we would notice.

1,000 or 100,000 thousand, they're not being "abducted" or "disappeared". They are being removed from their homes by Family Courts as a result of Social Services being involved to prevent harm and this woman is talking about that and the way Family Courts work in the UK..

THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PAEDOPHILES AND IT IS DISINGENUOUS, IF NOT OUTRIGHT MALICIOUS, OF THE OP TO TRY AND PAINT IT AS SUCH

a reply to: TechUnique

Because each one of those Children is traceable and they have been brought to the courts by Social Services for their protection or are involved in Family break ups. I myself have been through the Courts and dealt with Social Services both as a Child and as a Parent.

You're the one making outrageous claims, why not try to back it up? While the Family Courts system is secret from outsiders, it isn't from the Parents or Social Services involved - it is certainly not to feed children to some sick group of paedophiles.

a reply to: stumason

I tend to agree with you in this instance Stumason.

a reply to: TechUnique

What has that got to do with me?

originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: TechUnique

What has that got to do with me?

When did I claim this had anything to do with Peadophiles? I may have suggested it with another video I posted in a separate post than the OP but I didn't claim anything like you are suggesting. The way you are going on is as if that was the main theme of the thread and it was in the title and OP.

YOU are making wild claims. Literal claims. This has nothing to do with you, I posted an irrational response to your irrational post.

originally posted by: and14263
Another good thread OP - I hope this doesn't go the way of the last.

I wonder why the thread was abducted?

We need to get as much info about his out as possible.

Because he is repeatedly posting BS, that's why. The one with the Video with the kids recanting their abuse was actually nothing to do with "paedophiles in power" and more to do with paedophiles in their own home.

This thread, he is trying to paint a debate in the EU parliament about the UK Family Courts system as evidence of state sanctioned child abduction to feed to paedo rings.

a reply to: TechUnique

Jesus christ, mate. You did it in your second post in this thread!! You pulled this stunt in that other thread that got binned - went after Paraphi because he called you out on the video then you acted like you hadn't claimed it was anything or made up your own mind, when in actual fact you did it in the first AND second posts of that thread!

originally posted by: stumason
While the Family Courts system is secret from outsiders, it isn't from the Parents or Social Services involved - it is certainly not to feed children to some sick group of paedophiles.

Yeah, that would not be very secretive at all.

More likely to me that any pedo rings in existence would be supplied via human trafficking. Plenty of people go missing without a trace and they aren't all runaways or the like.

originally posted by: TechUnique
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See above - second post in the thread (after making the "evil" comment in the OP) and it's about Paedophiles in power.

You were clearly trying to establish the link

originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: TechUnique

See above - second post in the thread (after making the "evil" comment in the OP) and it's about Paedophiles in power.

You were clearly trying to establish the link

Oh well I'm sorry for daring to suggest something. I'm sorry for daring to even try and suggest something conspiracy related on a conspiracy forum.

Thank God you were here to set the record straight. Now people can just move along, nothing to see here.

In both threads - such vehement denial that what is being suggested is true or possible.

I'm not saying it is true.

It strikes me as odd that people would post in such a way that can lead to dismissal of the subject in hand.

I don't know, something just doesn't feel right.

Should we not be working together amiably to find sources and information rather than putting each other to task over evidence and information?

a reply to: and14263

It is probably because the same people have so vehemently attack the catholic church for the same reasons and now that it has come to light that the people that they voted in to run their country is doing the same perverted things they can't handle it. Just a guess.

a reply to: TechUnique

Nah, you're not slipping out of this one. You have knowingly tried to conflate two separate issues to garner attention and when called out on it, flat out deny you tried to as much. But when evidence is presented of you doing exactly what you denied you were doing, we get a half-arsed apology as if you were just trying to "inform us" as if you're some sort of bloody public service..

You knew full well what you were doing but have been caught in the lie.

a reply to: stumason

Ah ok - Sorry Stu, I thought that Police and Social Services were mentioned in those other videos.

Oh wait, they were.

a reply to: and14263

It's because on both threads the "evidence" presented was nothing of the sort, but because it's what you "want" to hear, you don't even bother checking it.

First thread, with the kids telling their story about abuse, was nothing to do with "people in power" and more to do with their own bloody father!

This thread, the OP has nothing to do with "stealing kids" for "people in power" and more to do with some left-wing do gooder MEP getting shorty about the UK Family Courts system.

originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: TechUnique

Jesus christ, mate. You did it in your second post in this thread!! You pulled this stunt in that other thread that got binned - went after Paraphi because he called you out on the video then you acted like you hadn't claimed it was anything or made up your own mind, when in actual fact you did it in the first AND second posts of that thread!

You do chat some complete and utter bull. The people on this website never cease to amaze me. The thread you are talking about got binned for entirely different reasons than you seem to be suggesting too mate.

Straight up T&C violation.


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See the bolded part. That also applies to kids giving somewhat detailed, or even non detailed accounts of sexual molestation they've been subjected to.

It's simply not the kind of content ATS allows.

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Further..

There are plenty of threads about child abuse that remain. What we don't allow, is the discussion what specifically happened to this children. As in discussion sexual acts with minors. Be it by an adult, or by a minor themselves. ATS does NOT allow sexual discussions like that.

There are hundreds of other websites and places that can be used to have these sorts of discussions. ATS is not one of them. As stated, you can discuss the topic, without the videos. It's not like we don't think the issue is important, it's just not the kind of content ATS allows.

Much like we don't allow Gore, or Porn, or whatever else is specifically in the T&C as a violation.

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a reply to: and14263

And if you read further into it, that couldn't have been further from the truth. Shame the thread got binned, really, but you seem to only read what you want to read.