War on 3/21/2015?

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

When I was in holiday back home in November 2014, one saint also informed me while chatting that there is a possibility of WWIII in later of March 2015. But bad that you are receiving the dream news from the guy in Jan 2015 to interpret.

TO be very frank, I do believe in certain things, but not with this one.
WWIII does not start without any smoke. Have you seen any smoke for conflicts yet? No right.

Even attack on Iraq for 9/11, how long did it take to plan and go to war? Months and weeks right.

So, we just live and enjoy and lets dont ever think about war.

a reply to: ketsuko

Well as far as predictions go I don't believe any of them. So I just read the thread title which says "War on 3/21/2015" so if no war happens on March 21st, then the OP is wrong with his prediction regardless of all the rapture nonsense.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

FYI : Israeli elections taking place on 17th March ... St Patrick's day.

According to your scheme, what were the key dates of 2014 ?
And which events do you relate to this pattern ?
Thx.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Then again, you didn't pay attention.

He related this prediction as separate from the chain of events he has mapped out. He found it interesting because it fell so closely in line with events on his own chain. He also admits he doesn't know what if any significance it may have. In short, it could be nothing, but he is passing it along because it does fall so close to his own chain of events - in this case a solar eclipse.

So really, whether or not this one prediction means anything or not has nothing to do with the OP's own predictions. Just for the sake of this one post, I wish the dream had fallen out slightly ahead of the OP's chain of events so that I could tweak your nose since the failure of the world to erupt into WWIII obviously would not invalidate a solar eclipse, something everyone knows WILL happen.

originally posted by: DYepes
BELIEVERpriest, everyone here pretty much knows the only war that is going to happen in March are the battles already raging at this time. Now if some new militant group pops up in a flash point somewhere or another unstable state is subject to a coup, I dont want you taking credit as that being your prediction. You need to understand that people like you have been making these prediction on ATS since it was created over a decade ago with a similar made up number theory, and it is ALWAYS just nonsense.

Why do you wish to burden us with nonsense? I reply out of genuine concern of the ignorant who lurk here that take predictions like yours at face value and end up screwing themselves financially because they are too stupid to understand your numbers theory can go i any direction, with any date, at any point in time.

Damn you DaVinci code and Nostradamus for starting these trends.

Why do you decry a thread which has presented you a venue to express your opinion on the matter? Odd. And if the ignorant lurkers screw themselves financially, then they will learn a valuable lesson: Take all predictions with a grain of salt. They should adopt the boyscout motto to ALWAYS be prepared, prediction or not.

a reply to: hdash

TO be very frank, I do believe in certain things, but not with this one. WWIII does not start without any smoke. Have you seen any smoke for conflicts yet? No right.

Even attack on Iraq for 9/11, how long did it take to plan and go to war? Months and weeks right.

How about this...



www.abovetopsecret.com...

And this is going on for a while now. Also why do you and others keep trying to put USA in the conflict? If I recall correct wars started before the so named "World War". WW1 and WW2 both started in Europe, before USA entered the conflict.

a reply to: ketsuko

Solar eclipses are known events that we actually know why and how they occur to the point that we can accurately predict them. Predicting WWIII or the rapture is nonsense.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

And you are free to believe that, but where I am annoyed with you is that you clicked in and basically said, "Oh, Christian crap!" Didn't bother to read any of it beyond that and assumed that the predictions are part and parcel of each other. In other words, that the WWIII prediction and the Rapture prediction all came from the same person.

They didn't.

But you said, "If the March 22 prediction doesn't happen, then it's all crap!"

No, one in this case does not invalidate the other. They are not part of the same chain of events made by the same person.

You made the assumption they were. You know what they say about assumptions.

a reply to: ketsuko

Meh. Whatever. A prediction thread is a prediction thread. It's all crap based on that premise alone. I don't even need to drag Christianity through the mud to think it is crap. These prediction threads are ALWAYS wrong and regardless of what I read or didn't read in the OP, I will be right here. Nothing the OP is claiming will happen (except the solar eclipse, but that will only happen on a select point on Earth, it's not like the whole planet will see it or anything). If that ticks you off, too bad.

The fact that the prediction is based on Christian mysticism is just the cherry on top for me.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I'm still up in the air on it, but it does confuse me how scripture says that "He hath not appointed us to wrath" and then turns around and pretty explicitly calls the Tribulation His wrath.

If we aren't appointed to wrath and the Trib is his wrath ... either it means we are gone or dead. Which is it?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ketsuko

Meh. Whatever. A prediction thread is a prediction thread. It's all crap based on that premise alone. I don't even need to drag Christianity through the mud to think it is crap. These prediction threads are ALWAYS wrong and regardless of what I read or didn't read in the OP, I will be right here. Nothing the OP is claiming will happen (except the solar eclipse, but that will only happen on a select point on Earth, it's not like the whole planet will see it or anything). If that ticks you off, too bad.

I'm just saying for someone who clearly prides themselves on being so mentally accurate and such a deep thinker, at least disagree for the right reason - because you took the time to read the post. Otherwise, don't even bother if you think it's all crap.

a reply to: FlyersFan

In most scenarios I've seen, that happens regardless. There is a case to be made that there will be good people left on earth right up until the end even if there is a rapture. There are cases that call for pre-, mid- and post-Trib rapture and no rapture at all. Only God knows and we can only be ready in soul.

a reply to: ketsuko

Well here's the thing. 100% of all prediction threads of this nature (predict doom and supply some dates) have turned out to be untrue. So as soon as I see a thread that predicts an event and gives a date, it is IMMEDIATELY discount as valid. I don't have to read the whole thread to come to this conclusion.

Question, do YOU believe that the OP's prediction will come true?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do I believe there will be a Solar Eclipse? Yes.

As for the rest, I think there will be the events he describes. Will they occur on the specific dates he sets? That I don't know. As for the WWIII thing, I think it's sketchy to call it WWIII based on an image of trees on fire.

In my own dream dictionary, trees are symbolic of people or nations. The Church is also depicted as a tree. Since we are talking apparently about many trees, I would lean toward people or nations. The fire is more problematic. It can symbolize the word of God, a raging problem in your life, or things like fire, brimstone and scorching winds are symbolic of judgments against the wicked. So depending on the context of the dream and the emotions of the dreamer, this could mean one of several things to see burning trees. Obviously the dreamer came to a conclusion, but there is no way to know if they came to the correct one. We have to trust their interpretation.

But on its face, it could be a spiritual revival as much a judgment against the nations.

I think the OP sees an interesting correlation with the solar eclipse because such things are signs to the gentiles. However, it is important to understand that a sign is just that - a sign, a marker. Things that are marked by a sign are rarely going to happen concurrently with the sign that marks their imminent occurrence. It's like the exit signs on the freeway. You see sings that mark your exit starting several miles away, not just right there at the exit itself. So is it likely the eclipse is a sign to warn of the outbreak of WWIII the very next day? Possible I suppose, but I don't think it's highly likely. I think it more like the eclipse is pointing to something further down the line.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I agree. I think it's interesting to note that the idea of "the Rapture" as we know it today was not formed until the 1830s...I would say the majority of Christians do not agree that "the Rapture" will take place, and would agree that it is not Biblical and a misunderstanding of the 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

a reply to: ketsuko

OR it's all just a dream since dreams don't predict the future.

There is nothing magical or markerish about eclipses. They happen at regular intervals every now and then when the moon passes the wobble point and perfectly blocks out the sun (or the Earth blocks out the moon in the case of a lunar event). Also, about 2-3 solar eclipses happen a year; so saying something will happen on a solar eclipse is like saying that bad things happen when the moon is full. It's superstition based on cyclical events.

Heck, you mention that this eclipse is pointing to something further down the line. Well how far down the line is it pointing? It can't be outside of 2015 since there will be one more solar eclipse occurring this year. Though I guess you could argue that the next one will only be a partial one, but the next total eclipse will be on March 9, 2016. So that gives this eclipse a little less than a year to "point to something further down the line".

The last total solar eclipse happened on Apirl 29th, 2014, why didn't that eclipse point to anything? What is SO special about this eclipse that we need to hold it in higher regard than all the others?

So as a caveat, on March 10th, 2016 when nothing has happened related to the rapture, can we thoroughly debunk this prediction? Or are we going to move the goalposts back again like you are trying to do here?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You can debunk the OP if nothing has happened by Sept. 17, 2016. He has set dates.

As for Biblical prophecy. It has no dates. Just because the OP set dates to it, doesn't mean anything unless you can somehow prove that God directly spoke to him.

Does it debunk all of Quantum Theory when one scientist gets his equation wrong?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You can debunk the OP if nothing has happened by Sept. 17, 2016. He has set dates.

If we allow for the prophecy to still be valid after March 9. 2016, what is the point of bringing up the solar eclipse? If something did happen between March 9 and Sep 17 of 2016 what is the point of signifying this event during the total eclipse in 2015? Wouldn't it make more sense to mark it on March 9?

As for Biblical prophecy. It has no dates. Just because the OP set dates to it, doesn't mean anything unless you can somehow prove that God directly spoke to him.

Yes, but Biblical prophecy falls for the OTHER fallacy trap that seers like to use (which in my opinion is the worse of the two). Vagueness. By keeping things vague and undefined, it allows you to push the goalposts back indefinitely. There could only be two humans left on earth and one could be saying to the other that the rapture is imminent and he wouldn't be wrong because we don't know exactly what that means.

Does it debunk all of Quantum Theory when one scientist gets his equation wrong?

I have different reasons and arguments for debunking biblical prophecy.