What if ISIS is controlled opposition?

originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: PraetorianAZ

Why does the nwo have such a fixation with syria,iran and iraq?

Because there's no Rothschild banks there?

perhaps its the bank thing....

I think it has more to do with the Seleucid Empire... out of which the 'Beast', the final Anti-Christ will come... read the prophecy in Daniel

look at the map of the 4 Kingdoms which came about upon the death of Alexander the Great...
in what Empire do present day Syria/Iran/Iraq/Kuwait/parts of Turkey & ersatz-Kurdistan lie ?
(hint the purple empire where the AC comes from) Seleucid !

en.wikipedia.org...:Seleucid-Empire_200bc.jpg

dang, the wiki file. jpg will not display... but there is a small box of the territory you can click to enlarge on the Selecuid page

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: St Udio

I would probably agree it could very well have something to do with the location of ancient city sites, but most people refuse to mix the political with the esoteric.

a reply to: Eunuchorn

I don't think it's so esoteric.... the NWO deliberately links itself to Lucifer, the progenitor of the antichrist...
and the book of Daniel states that in the End Times the 'despicable, evil king' will arise to conquer even the holy and Saints & cast truth-to-the-ground...
The NWO desires to be the method that God is defeated, they come to replace the Deity with an AC

it is all pretty straight forward and not lost in murky symbology or metaphors... the NWO aids and Abets the AC to come into power to rid the Earth of both Christians, Jews, Hindi et al including most of the Muslims

the "Syrian" is another moniker for the future AC who comes out of that land, the former Seleduid empire/kingdom lands


good night

I would call it uncontrolled opposition

I thought everyone knew the "Free Syrian Army" and ISIL are one and the same.
We are funding the terrorists, always have been, along with a host of other countries.

People lack critical thinking skills these days and are easily led from one lie to the next.

I always felt like ISIS was some sort of safety valve, to get the jihadi's out of western nations and into the middle east so that we could fight them over there and not here type of thing.

This has turned into a mess, it was supposed to be a reply to someone who said that more controlled opposition was unlikely due it's redundancy. it didn't include my response, just his qoute. wtf..

Reduntant? Do any other of these threats seem like something American people will get on board with? They know the cost that would come with challenging Russia, etc. They can easily dupe us into taking out these desert barbarians though. It's a fine line, they have to be threatening enough to warrant aggression but not enough to assure significant resistance. That said, I'm far from convinced ISIS is controlled opposition

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
What if ISIS is controlled opposition? What if the DoD could wipe them out easily but they instead wait until the atrocities accumulate to build public furor against the insane jihadist barbarians?
Very clever scheme if true. This wouldn't be the first time "MIC-ie" manufactured a foreign threat to scare the western world into supporting a war.

More problem reaction solution?

Get the american public against pacifism and for a new major war on iran and syria.
Listening to MSM news seems like softcore 1930's communist/fascist pro-expansion propaganda.

The last penny dropped.

I couldnt verify the following though so take it with a grain of salt.

moroccantimes.com...

rasoolurrahmah.wordpress.com...

In the age of the internet the last defense of the agencies seem to be denial.

Bothe the soviets and the Americans have been arming factions for decades so it aint like they do not have experience. The only difference is there arent American or Nato troops in heavy combat in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq, so the focus of the press is on the current big thing.

What if ISIS is controlled opposition?

Opposition to what, women and children or the elderly. Why would they be opposing someone that has no effect on their way of life. I can tell you why, they are murdering miss guided barbarians that can't see past their own ideology to know they are punks trying to be "the man". When in the end all they will see is death after all most mid eastern countries want them dead as well.

As for the US DOD they don't move unless the POTUS said move, or did you believe that he killed bin ladin. He is the man with the fury balls, his foreign policies in that area a joke region. You can't stop evil with harsh language, in my honest opinion, we as in the US, should of pounded IS asses into dust when they crossed into Iraq no more no less. I'm wondering what the dead soldiers of faluja or Mosul are thinking, they died fighting one evil there just so the current POTUS can hand it back to some that are even more vile and evil than the ones they died fighting against.

a reply to: swanne

Sorry It took so long to reply but the reason I say its the US Gov is because Russia and the USA are in this together. Russias banks are controlled by the Federal Reserve just like our banks. Sure we might end up at war with Russia but thats part of the plan. Kill off as many youth of both nations that you can and not many will be left to fight the NWO when the time comes. Its all a puppet show going on right now keeping all eyes looking at the puppets and not the puppet masters.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman



The reason the NWO is so interested in Syria and Iran is because they are unchecked countries with no ties to the federal reserve bank. They also have massive amounts of natural resources that are not controlled by the NWO.

Thats the same reason we are so interested in North Korea and Cuba they dont have banks controlled by the Federal reserve. Unfortunatly for NK and Cuba they dont have as many natural recourses so we wont invade them until after Iran and Syria.

ISIS are paying their guys $ 400 a month double what the going rate is

ISLAMABAD: Yousaf al Salafi – allegedly the Pakistan commander of Islamic State (IS) or Daish – has confessed during investigations that he has been receiving funds through the United States.

tribune.com.pk...

a reply to: PraetorianAZ

But your logic has a flaw: Russia is with Iran.

Therefore if Russia is NWO, it follows that Iran is accomplice in some way. Who do you think is feeding Iran nuclear material?

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman



ISIS is the first proclaimed 'Islamic group' active in the middle east that doesn't care about Israel.

a reply to: swanne

Iran itself ...
That the main problem about the Iranian nuclear program is that they have local sources of Uranium and the scientific know-how.
For both civilian and militiray uses of course.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: swanne

Iran itself ...
That the main problem about the Iranian nuclear program is that they have local sources of Uranium and the scientific know-how.
For both civilian and militiray uses of course.

Russia build 8 more nuclear plants in Iran

Sure seem to me they prefer asking comrade Russia for nuclear stuff.

The iranians flex their muscles in front of the broken sink but they end up calling the plumbers in Russia.

originally posted by: douglas5

ISLAMABAD: Yousaf al Salafi – allegedly the Pakistan commander of Islamic State (IS) or Daish – has confessed during investigations that he has been receiving funds through the United States.

Blame the US when US starts to fight back, and provide no solid evidences. Classic.

Who funded and brought up ISIS? One side, the mainstream American side, points the finger of blame at private donors and al-Qaeda affiliates in Syria, the al-Nusrah Front.

This finger pointing is being done by former U.S. Navy Admiral and NATO Supreme Commander, James Stavridis, amongst other Washington officials. He stated to NBC News that, “these rich Arabs are like what ‘angel investors’ are to tech start-ups, except they are interested in starting up groups who want to stir up hatred.” He goes on by saying, “groups like al-Nusrah and ISIS are better investments for them. The individuals act as high rollers early, providing seed money. Once the groups are on their feet, they are perfectly capable of raising funds through other means, like kidnapping, oil smuggling, selling women into slavery, etc.” [1]

The continuation of blame follows down the path to the individuals who are reported to solicit funds for ‘humanitarian causes,’ only to hand off the proceeds to ISIS and like-minded affiliates. US intelligence prefers to call them ‘rich patrons,’ noting their contribution to the development of the Assad regime in Syria.

An interesting turn of events occurred during a gathering for the Council of Foreign Relations, which Iranian Foreign Minister, Mohammed Javad Zarif, attended. He accused the assembled Paris conference on fighting ISIS of being a “coalition of repenters,” insinuating that it was they who have “created a monster.” The Council of Foreign Relations heard Zarif’s condemnation of those who sought pretense. “It [ISIS] has been supported, it has been provided for in terms of arms, money, finances by a good number of U.S. allies in the region.” [2]

It isn’t the first time that the western front has been accused of setting up ISIS and other affiliates financially, and militarily. In 2014, Zbigniew Brzezinski, former counselor and advisor to the likes of Lyndon B. Johnson in the 1960s, and President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s and early 1980s, spoke with NBC on the matter of national security and ISIS.

When prompted with the matter of combating ISIS without strengthening the Assad regime or Iran, he responded that the US backed the weakest link in Syria. “I think it was a mistake, in fact, to give such a free hand to the Saudis and others in organizing some sort of an internal self-promoted conflict within Syria,” Brzezinski said. “And we have to be very careful how we become engaged.” [3]

This comment may be in hindsight for the support of the mujahideen during the Cold War between Afghanistan and the Soviet Union. The Afghan War was eventually won over by the mujahideen rebels with the military aid of the US, however, it now remains controversial. Since 1992, various rebel factions have appeared, decreeing an Islamic republic.

1992 is also the same year in which the CIA permitted Pakistani ISI allies (Inter-Services Intelligence) to recruit Muslim extremists, most passing under mujahideen-CIA assisted training. It was from here that some 35,000 Muslim radicals trained and fought together, giving birth to an Islamic radicalism, along with one of its first official recruits, a civil engineer and businessman, Osama bin Laden. [4]

The history is there. Lead advisors, though cautious in their words, err a noise of regret on their involvement. Others take the forum and announce their blame at Council, for the world to hear. University professors write essays and some mainstream media journalists, true to their writing cause, raise queries, but who will put the genie back in its proverbial bottle? Or is the bottle already too broken?

SOURCES:

[1] Windrem, R. (2014, September 21). Who’s Funding ISIS? Wealthy Gulf ‘ Angel Investors,’ Officials Say. [NBC News]. Retrieved from www.nbcnews.com...

[2] Ibid., Windrem, R.

[3] Landy, B. (2014, October 9). Zbigniew Brzezinski on ISIS, Ukraine, and the future of American power. [MSNBC]. Retrieved from www.msnbc.com...

[4] Gasper, P., Prof. (2001, Nov-Dec). Afghanistan, the CIA, bin Laden, and the Taliban. [Internationalist Socialist Review]. Retrieved from www.thirdworldtraveler.com...

a reply to: lucifuge

"These rich Arabs" act at the behest of America. We can shut off the financial flow of whole countries when we want to. If the would not fund terrorism on the explicit wish of movers and shakers within Nato they would be sanctioned like everybody else or worse.

Also if they know whom it is funding terrorism why don't they hold them accountable? Yes, it is controlled opposition of course the funding has to be rationalized somehow. Saudis are sufficiently ethnically dressed that some of those can be sold as sponsors and enablers of terrorists to the public although none of them does a step unobserved.

The Islamic State has put female sex slaves from the Iraqi ethnic minority on sale and has also released the age wise price list. According to a document issued by the ISIS, Christian and Yazidi girls, aged between 1 and 9, are up for grabs for $172. Girls that are 10 to 20 are sold for nearly $129, while those aged 20 to 30 are sold for about $86. ISIS sex slave price for women that are 30 to 40 is about $6 and for those aged 40 to 50, it is $43. Slaves are not listed as women – they are labelled as Merchandise.

Price List–Sale of Booty

We have been informed that the market for sale of women had been witnessing a reduction in price which effects the needs for the Islamic State and the funding for the Mujahideen. For this, the commerce department had decided to set a fixed price regarding the sale of women. Therefore, all auctioneers are to abide by this and anyone who breaks the rules will be executed.

PRICE (in Dinar) MERCHANDISE

200,000 age 1-9/Yezidi/Christian

150,000 age 10-20/Yezidi/Christian

100,000 age 20-30/Yezidi/Christian

75,000 age 30-40/Yezidi/Christian

50,000 age 40-50/Yezidi/Christian

Limit to 3 Sex Slaves with exception to foreign sales to Turks, Syrians and Gulf states.

The shocking revelation comes after an appalling video showed Islamic State fighters bargaining over Yazidi women at a slave market.

The terrorist organization, that has full-fledged slave markets in Mosul, Iraq and Raqqa, Syria, has cited Islamic theology to justify its kidnapping of women as sex slaves . In October 2014, the Islamic State, in an article in the fourth edition of the ISIS English-language digital magazine called Dabiq, claimed that Islamic law permits its fighters to take religious minority women as concubines.

“Before Shaytan [Satan] reveals his doubts to the weak-minded and weak-hearted, one should remember that enslaving the families of the kuffar [infidels] and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Shari’ah that if one were to deny or mock, he would be denying or mocking the verses of the Qur’an and the narration of the Prophet … and thereby apostatizing from Islam,” CNN reported.

ISIS’ Al-Khanssaa Brigade, which includes many women radicals from the UK, is in charge of running the brothel in Raqqa. “It is the British women who have risen to the top of the Islamic State’s sharia police and now they are in charge of this operation. They believe militants can use these women as they please as they are non-Muslims,” an unidentified source told the Daily Mirror.

References:

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www.ibtimes.co.in...

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