Fraternities/Secret Societies

You guys in this thread sure believe everything official explanation of everything. lol

You forget that power does not tell you the truth. That's not its job. Its job is to control you.

To the Masons here:

- Why did FDR, a Mason, put a Masonic symbol on the back of the dollar bill? That is NOT a secular symbol at all.

- Why are Masonic symbols all over Washington DC, London and the Vatican, if the Masons have no power? Even the Statue of Liberty is.

- Wasn't there a film in 2000 about Jack the Ripper being a Mason? He was played by Anthony Hopkins I think.

- Have you heard of Jordan Maxwell or Michael Tsarion? They have a ton of proof about the Masons' connection to the Illuminati. They are the world's experts on this subject. Have you read any of their work?

Here is a groundbreaking book that proves that secret societies do control the top levels of government in the world:

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280615851&sr=8-1

Let me get this straight.

Members of a secret society here are telling us that it has no secrets? lol

Is that the most believable statement in the world? lol

Or an oxymoron?

If there's nothing wrong with secret societies, why did JFK speak out against them before he was assassinated?


[edit on 31-7-2010 by WWu777]

Of course it's secret, if anyone wants to figure it out just do the search and anyone can figure it out on his her own. Don't ask for it, search for it as nothing is for free.

My view on the NWO it's on, happening, they want order(not a bad thing at times) except that who does not want this order is "WRONG" and a "MONKEY" sometimes monkeys are lively just like any other creature on this earth, playfull. (not a bad thing at times)

It's the law robot VS the monkey, the robot going into the jungle to force the monkey obey.

It's the obsesion of some to control others because they can not control their selfs.
Why control others when you have bliss, unhappy because you cannot feel ? then who told you to eat from the tree ? Was it god ? What if there was no one to rule ? what then ? Who would they play with ?

It's happened before, going to other countries other regions to impose a system or the system even if they don't want it. People that are doing this are clean on the outside and dirty on the inside, so what if you got a clean white shirt. YOU ARE FAKE.
They fake kindness, they give to others because they know they have to give, unatural monsters, they forgot to be human. I pity them, masons and so on, all the kind.

Ohh let's behave nice "just make pretend" because we can't do it for real so we need laws. Let's fake it.

What a bunch of monsters.

Originally posted by WWu777
- Why did FDR, a Mason, put a Masonic symbol on the back of the dollar bill? That is NOT a secular symbol at all.

It's not a Masonic symbol either. In fact that combination of symbols didn't exist ANYWHERE prior to the design of the Great Seal of the United States. That's what it is, and that's all that it is. Masons never used it. Illuminati never used it. It's purely a symbol of America.

- Why are Masonic symbols all over Washington DC, London and the Vatican, if the Masons have no power? Even the Statue of Liberty is.

DC? Because Masons have been popular there in the past. London? Same. Vatican? You won't see anything Masonic in the Vatican. The Catholic church excommunicates Masons on sight...

- Wasn't there a film in 2000 about Jack the Ripper being a Mason? He was played by Anthony Hopkins I think.

Ian Holm, not Anthony Hopikins. Asked & answered in a different thread.

- Have you heard of Jordan Maxwell or Michael Tsarion? They have a ton of proof about the Masons' connection to the Illuminati. They are the world's experts on this subject. Have you read any of their work?

For world experts, they couldn't find their ####s with both hands. They can't even prove the Illuminati exists, much less any connection to the Masons. So no, I don't think much of them. Or Icke, or Alex Jones. Bunch of crackpots.

Originally posted by WWu777
If there's nothing wrong with secret societies, why did JFK speak out against them before he was assassinated?

You mean two and a half years before he was assassinated? He didn't. In fact, he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, the Catholic equivalent of the Masons. Read the full speech... really read it, not the chopped up youtube clips that butcher what he really said. He was actually telling the press to keep more secrets in time of war. He would have been against this whole wikileaks thing. Read the full speech.

[edit on 7/31/2010 by JoshNorton]

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by WWu777
If there's nothing wrong with secret societies, why did JFK speak out against them before he was assassinated?

You mean two and a half years before he was assassinated? He didn't. In fact, he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, the Catholic equivalent of the Masons. Read the full speech... really read it, not the chopped up youtube clips that butcher what he really said. He was actually telling the press to keep more secrets in time of war. He would have been against this whole wikileaks thing. Read the full speech.

[edit on 7/31/2010 by JoshNorton]

But he said in the speech "We are opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths".

What could be more clear than that?

reply to post by WWu777

FDR didn't put a Masonic symbol on the back of the One Dollar Bill. All he did was had the Great Seal (already in place for over a century) put on the back. Out of the four committees created (one after another) that had a Freemason on it was the first and that Mason was Ben Franklin. And Ben had a very different design in mind. He wanted something like the scene where Moses parted the Red Sea with a Latin inscription going around it that said "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God". Ben also suggested that the US adopt the Turkey as the national bird and not the Eagle.

Which symbols are you talking about? You can't just charge us to defend such a general or vague statement as we could charge back that there isn't. Are you talking about the cornerstone dedications? Buildings that have specific symbols?

Hollywood movies are not indicative of truth. There are many theories about who was Jack the Ripper, but alas no one knows for sure nor would Freemasons embrace such an appalling act.

Never heard of either men.

reply to post by WWu777

I love to see JFKs words twisted.

You realize he was a member of the Knights of Columbus. A fraternal organization within the Catholic church that held private meetings just like the Freemasons.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by KSigMason]

Originally posted by WWu777
But he said in the speech "We are opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths".

What could be more clear than that?

He's saying nobody like secrets, but guess, what, I'm asking you the press to keep more secrets because of the cold war.

In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

and

I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

If JFK was part of a secret society, then why did he say in that speech "We are opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths" etc.?

Why didn't his secret society protect him from assassination?

Why did JFK want to pull out of Vietnam, against the wishes of the military industrial complex, and take action against the CIA and Federal Reserve? Didn't he serve the cabal too?

Originally posted by WWu777
If JFK was part of a secret society, then why did he say in that speech "We are opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths" etc.?

See Josh's posts

Originally posted by WWu777Why didn't his secret society protect him from assassination?

Why did JFK want to pull out of Vietnam, against the wishes of the military industrial complex, and take action against the CIA and Federal Reserve? Didn't he serve the cabal too?

So are you saying the Catholic Church and the Knights of Columbus had prior knowledge of his assassination?

Originally posted by WWu777
If JFK was part of a secret society, then why did he say in that speech "We are opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths" etc.?

Why didn't his secret society protect him from assassination?

Because those "secret societies" are boys clubs for grown men who like to dress in funny costumes are create an air of mystique around themselves to disguise the fact that they're boys clubs for grown men. How are those secret clubs supposed to save anybody from assasination?

I am not worried about being assasinated! Freemasonry is not a secerat society although if a non member was to come to a regular communication and get in he wouldnt realy no what is going on. So even if everything is revealed you just have to ask and want to learn. You could say being a medical doctor is a seceret society I certainly couldnt operate on anyone but after recieving knowledge and practice I could operate. Nothing is seceret its all in plain site you just have to ask.