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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: redhorse
I've raised 4 kids and yes you can discipline them!
If you don't you'll end up with these kids they call they cops for.
Even with discipline a few of them are impossible, I know.
I got lucky by having kids that never did anything worse than get tossed from school for making bomb threats.
Haha! Got you!
having a tantrum, spraying herself with perfume, burping in class, being strip searched for having 200 bucks, aressted for doodling I love my friend such and such, tasering a kid in the nuts multiple times, arrested for sexual assult for playing tag, a kid arrested for throwing a paper airplane, bringing lunch to school with a paring knife to cut your apples, raising thier hand when thier not supposed to, another kid arresed for a plastic butter knife, peper spraying a special ed kid in the face for climbing on funiture, and the list goes on and on.
originally posted by: Anyafaj
I think they have people so afraid to "take back their country" for fear of being shot! I know you're not here as you said, but just look at the Posse Comitatus board. Heck, even protesting you run the risk of getting shot at by cops, and that's when it's peaceful! Imagine what they do when protestors are violent and looting!
originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
you know what the worst part is? in america especially, you should say thank god they were only arrested.
that's a miracle in itself.
Ask Tamir Rice.
Oh you can't, because a lunatic cop basically did a drive-by and shot him dead.
Really all you can do is be happy they did not die in the process.
That's what america got itself into. and the police are really not to blame.
the people are. Take back your country, if you are not pleased with how it's run.
people seems to be caught up in this thought process:
"I will be vocal online and on social media on how much i hate this so people will approve of my moral compass, but i rather not do anything real about it because i got it good and don't want to spoil it"
i don't live in america, thankfully, but you guys need to get your sh@t together and go back to the combative, strong minded people you were before 9/11
originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I think you guys are failing to realize that most likely these children have had previous issues. I highly doubt any of them are having these episodes for the first time warranting this kind of action. Add to that that the parents will probably not blink an eye they will file a lawsuit so fast if one of these teachers or faculty members were to physically restrain their children; And god forbid someone gets seriously injured during the act, I am sure there is liability or insurance issues.
I am not condoning any of these actions, just reminding that there are probably extenuating circumstances in each case. Of course the news isn't going to report it because that lessens the stories effect.
http://_national_report_dot_net_/police-taser-multiple-children/
(Sherwood, ND) – Hundreds of horrified and enraged parents stormed through the halls of Calcutta elementary school in Sherwood North Dakota demanding justice after two police officers burst into a classroom Friday morning and began tasing random children.
The officers, Hugh Roark and Darren Engen were detained shortly after the incident and remain in custody pending investigation, which senior officers describe as “heinous and unforgivable”.
Meanwhile, parents are left struggling to understand what would motivate the two “peace” officers to pull such a stunt. Officer Andrew Bergman who is working closely with investigators has reported during a press conference that the officers were apparently “bored” with the absence of crime in the tiny North Dakota town. They were also seeking somewhere to practice shooting their newly acquired tasers that the department had issued just a few weeks earlier. A handful of townsfolk had reported seeing the officers in a field along the highway shortly before the incident, firing their tasers at a herd of grazing cattle.
Several parents of children whom had suffered a tasing at the hands of Roark and Engen gathered outside the Sherwood Inmate Detainment Center demanding the perpetrators be handed over for a little dose of street justice. “Why don’t they give all of us parents some tasers so we can practice on those b*stards!”, screamed Holly Bradshaw before she spat in the face of another officer leaving the building.
None of the children tased attained any permanent physical injuries, but it is likely the incident will leave them scarred mentally and foster a lifelong hatred of law enforcement.
The police department has apologized profusely for the attack, stating that they are unsure how the two mentally unstable officers were able to pass the mandatory psychiatric evaluations but say they intend to look into the matter.
edition.cnn.com...
The girl's mother says the police used "excessive force" when they used a Taser
on her 8 year old girl.
www.policestateusa.com...
PIERRE, SD — The use of force on a child sparked controversy after an 8-year-old girl was tased following an apparent suicide threat.
The incident occurred when a babysitter phoned police on October 4, 2013, saying the young girl she was supervising wouldn’t put down a knife and was threatening to hurt herself.
Four Pierre police officers arrived and confronted the girl, identified only as L.M.J. She was holding a 4.5-inch paring knife found in the kitchen.
The force used to quell the situation has drawn varied reactions, and has prompted a lawsuit to be filed against the Pierre Police Department by the girl’s mother, Dawn Stenstrom.
Officers only spent “seconds” trying to reason with the 70-pound girl, according to the complaint, before putting her “into high voltage submission” by firing the sharp prongs of a taser weapon into her chest from roughly 5 feet away.
“The force of the electricity shot through her body, lifted her, and threw her against a wall,” the suit alleges.
The defendants named in the lawsuit are the city of Pierre, South Dakota; former Pierre Police Chief, Robert Grandpre; and the four officers who were at the scene.
Officials backed the officers’ use of force, and the South Dakota Division of Criminal Investigation ultimately ruled that the police had acted appropriately and found no wrongdoing.
But Ms. Stenstrom did not appreciate that finding, and described the incident as “excessive force.”
“How much harm could she have done?” Ms. Stenstrom asked, according to CNN.
She and her attorney, Dana Hanna, argue that the police could have used other means to remove the knife from her hands.
“One [officer] distracts her, another grabs the girl’s arm. That’s what they should have done,” Hanna said. “She had a kitchen paring knife, but hadn’t cut. She was a kid throwing a tantrum. They should have made an attempt to grab the kid, not use a weapon to throw her into a wall. A Taser’s not meant to kill, but it does kill. Many people have died after being hit by a Taser by cops. It never should be used on a little child. She certainly wasn’t presenting a danger to officers.”
The mother describes the girl as suffering in pain the entire night from the Taser shock and being punctured by the sharp probes. She was not wounded by the knife.
originally posted by: dr1234
Condoning, no. Minimalising? Absolutely.
originally posted by: sputniksteve
originally posted by: dr1234
Condoning, no. Minimalising? Absolutely.
No I am not minimalising anything either. I am rationalizing and thinking critically like a mature responsible adult instead of demonizing the people that are trying to be the solution to a problem. Instead of watching a bunch of videos in a row meant to make me think with my emotions instead of my brain and I am seeing it for what it is and trying not to jump to conclusions. Thanks for your spot on assessment though, I'll surely remember to look for your advice in the future.
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Wassup with cops tazing of 8 year old little girls?
And wassup with cops busting into kindergarden tasing random boys and girls just kids yes 5 and 6 year olds? Mind you they were tasing random cattle shortly before the incident.