When Police Arrest Little Kindergarden Kids & Take Them To Jail For Insane Reasons

((sarcasm on)) isn't it great to see our tax dollars hard at work? ((sarcasm off)) The list of people on tax dollars that fail dose not just stop with the police or the teacher. There is a long list of people be for and after something like this happens. If we want to stop things like this all on the list need to be addressed. The list does shrink or grow depending on the kid, so bare that in mind please.

originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
you know what the worst part is? in america especially, you should say thank god they were only arrested.
that's a miracle in itself.
Ask Tamir Rice.
Oh you can't, because a lunatic cop basically did a drive-by and shot him dead.
Really all you can do is be happy they did not die in the process.
That's what america got itself into. and the police are really not to blame.
the people are. Take back your country, if you are not pleased with how it's run.
people seems to be caught up in this thought process:
"I will be vocal online and on social media on how much i hate this so people will approve of my moral compass, but i rather not do anything real about it because i got it good and don't want to spoil it"
i don't live in america, thankfully, but you guys need to get your sh@t together and go back to the combative, strong minded people you were before 9/11

Well said.

originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
you know what the worst part is? in america especially, you should say thank god they were only arrested.

that's a miracle in itself.

Ask Tamir Rice.

Oh you can't, because a lunatic cop basically did a drive-by and shot him dead.

Really all you can do is be happy they did not die in the process.

That's what america got itself into. and the police are really not to blame.

the people are. Take back your country, if you are not pleased with how it's run.

people seems to be caught up in this thought process:

"I will be vocal online and on social media on how much i hate this so people will approve of my moral compass, but i rather not do anything real about it because i got it good and don't want to spoil it"

i don't live in america, thankfully, but you guys need to get your sh@t together and go back to the combative, strong minded people you were before 9/11

It will be a cold day in hell before that day ever arrives, most are just waiting to give up the few rights they think they have left. When the time comes all will roll over in despair.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

So if the kid is out of control, the district enforces a hands off policy, the parents won't come get the kid.. What do you want the school to do?


I am on a phone so did not watch the videos, and no I do not support tazing or using mace on kids.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I've heard and read about these insane arrests and suspensions of kids, not just in the USA but also in the UK where it's not as bad however. In the topic about the 9-year-old being suspended I said I literally cannot believe it and I still feel somewhat incapable of doing so. The videos you posted are nauseating even though probably most of them are scare tactics. Like with the last boy, the black 7-year-old, I clicked on the YouTube link and read in the comments that it was to prevent him from stealing in the future. Viewing it shocked me but luckily that at least wasn't an actual arrest. (or attempt to, I don't think such young children can be arrested anywhere in the USA... right?)

There're several mentions of absolutely horrible and insane events but I wonder... these things don't happen over here and it's not like American people suddenly had a wholesale drop in IQ to that of a potato, nor have they suddenly become insane. How is this possible?

If this is not grossly exaggerated I really wonder what the heck is going on. Unfathomable. And when such things happen at schools,how come parents still send their kids there after something like that happened. I'd be worried about my child's personal safety, be it psychological or physical. Such schools and teachers prove to be a danger for your kid's well-being.

It's scary that it appears that police work is now an unskilled job. Probably should take away the guns and hand cuffs.

a reply to: roadgravel

They don't need them against kids anyway

a reply to: Pitou

UK is a bit different as I have seen it first hand.


Fact is there are some kids that have problems, big problems.

One kid started throwing chairs and heavy objects at other pupils and teachers.

No way to stop him.

Police were called but he was not tazed, maced or put under arrest. They just take the kid off to a safe place until the parents can retrieve them.

Unfortunately that is a necessity for public safety of the other kids. Or in one case adults too when one had a knife they picked up off a kitchen work top before they came to school.

I got a question, but sadly I'm sure there aren't any statistics on this sort of thing.

Cops' families ought to have the same sorts of issues any other families do, as far as having special needs children.

So...

...how often are the children of LEO's maced, tased, frogmarched, arrested, beaten or shot? Do the teachers, security guards or police who are called to respond find it in their hearts to deal with them in a less brutal manner?

I'm going out on a limb here, but I'll bet that in cases where it's known who the kid IS, the beaten/maced/handcuffed tally closely approximates to zero for the children of LEOs, politicians, judges, prosecutors and others in the "family".

OK, what I really don't understand is why this is a thing nowadays.
In primary school, early 70s [Germany], we had 30 kids to a class and 6 classes in a year. We all knew each other and each others 'quirks' yet NOONE EVER lost it, as in being completely weird, not listening, hitting teachers etc.
Then in Comprehensive school, we had 2000 kids in this enormous modern school. Nobody was allowed to hit us or restrain us, yet NO KID EVER in the 7 years I was there 'lost it'. If they had, it would have been a story going round faster than a forest fire.
In my own class, we had kids, some from very bad backgrounds. They came in dirty, smoked, swore during breaks etc but NEVER EVER did one of them misbehave in class, not so much as got up or said anything bad to a teacher.

Yes, we could be an unruly lot in different ways [putting up teen sex pictures all around the classroom], made spitting guns from hollow pens and spat paperballs at the blackboard, put superglue on the teacher's seat, slid the blackboard all the way in front of the teacher's room so they couldn't get out...etc. No police was ever called as the parents would have gone apes!t with the teachers for overreacting.

Yet all was sort of normal, we got told off as a whole, at one point the headmaster came down to tell us off but basically it was all just 'what kids do'.

Why are so many more 'disturbed' kids around, kids that seem to not be part of the whole, that seem to display strange behaviours with no boundaries or respect or shame?

I have seen kids react badly to certain sweet fizzy drinks which we didn't have. Maybe it is something in their food?
There is certainly some responsibility with the parents [but as I said, we had kids from problem families and they still didn't get crazy].

What is it, this is a new phenomenon IMO.

originally posted by: ZeussusZ
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Crazy vids.
If your a teacher and need to call the cops as backup to take on a 5yr old, you pretty much have failed at being a adult.

That's the thing now. Sometimes the teacher isn't the one doing the calling. One example, my daughter is special needs. She had permission to calm down under the stairs in the hallway. That was her cooldown spot across from the guidance counselors office. The teacher went to check on her, so far, no problem. She was still in frustration mode (She was 12 at the time and operating on a 6 yr old level due to autism and brain damage.) It was in her behavioral therapy plan to NOT say the word handcuffs around her as this would really make her angry, as cops put her in cuffs once before causing her to wet herself. (She was in karate class, she went to show a female officer a karate kick not knowing this obviously is not allowed, they put her to the floor, hands and feet behind her back for about an hour till she wet herself and had a seizure. Needless she was scared of them by this point now.) Anywho, it was in her behavioral plan to NOT mention handcuffs. Her jerk of a principal walked by, saw her on the floor, she was thisclose to going back into hr classroom and being calm. He said, and I quote word for word, "If you don't stop your crap, I'll have the security officer give me his cuffs and I'll put you in them myself and kick you out of here!"



BOOM! Started her right back up, only this time she began kicking, when she did, her teacher was right above her because she was about to help her stand up to go back into the classroom. When she kicked, she accidentally kicked her teacher in the va-jay-jay. They were going to expel her for kicking the teacher, but the teacher told the Super that the principal violated the behavioral plan for one, and for two, if the principal had not violated the plan, while the child was calming down and about to go into the room, and the teacher was where she was, she would not have been in the way to have been kicked. So the Super set it to a 10 day suspension. Needless to say the principal was a HUGE jerk after that using any and every excuse for an out of school suspension, in school suspension, after that. Believe it or not, he was my Vice-Pincipal growing up and he was NOT a creep then. Apparently times change.

originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
a reply to: Anyafaj
I understand the fear-it's legitimate, the threat is pretty real.
But then what can you do? submit or leave the country, those are the two options you have left.
But if you could organize a nation wide protest, literally millions of people, what's going to happen? are they all going to get shot? all arrested? Mind you, the protest does not have to be violent, because then you are automatically wrong. I speculate, if millions of people, of all races or genders actually moved to protest in some way things would change, just imagine, get a few million people in new york to just stop their cars, in the middle of the road, and just sit there. for days if necessary. What will they do? bomb the cars? shoot everyone?
I know it's easier said than done, but if nothing at all is ever done, then yeah, bow your head of head for greener pastures i guess.

Trust me when I say I agree. I think they've gotten it to a point where even I'm ready to move, and now all of it is over cops. A majority of my reason is how they treat children and adults with autism and brain damage, and not only in schools. Cops as well. They treat it as if it is a crime to be different. Period. More and more autistic adults are getting shot by cops. Or even getting locked up in jail. Heck my daughter spent 2 weeks in jail and in those 2 weeks she never once showered, brushed her hair or teeth, and when she started her cycle for the first time ever in her life, not one nurse I the jail would show her how to put a pad on her underwear. Seriously??? You can't take the time to do that? "Not my job." The jailers wouldn't. "Not my job." And it's not like they wouldn't let her caregiver in there to show her. (Me.) You know who showed her? The dang prisoners! She operated on an 8 year old mind and had NO clue what was going on in her body even though I had explained it numerous times in the past. Heck, even the warden agreed she did NOT belong there. It has gotten worse in some states here because they consider autism to be, and I love this one, MENTALLY ILL. Isn't that awesome? They don't know what to do with kids and adults with autism, so they put them in psych wards. And even better, they consider 14 to be an adult. So no, it is not unusual to see a child in an adult jail ward. That's where my daughter was. Not juvie. Adult jail. It's great, isn't it? And if you think that's awesome, wait till they throw your kid in a mixed psych ward with vets returning from war. Just what every kid with an 8 yr old mind needs to hear, someone talking about their body parts being blown off and someone talking about shooting up other people. These states are well and truly messed up. Try living it.

originally posted by: ZeussusZ
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Crazy vids.
If your a teacher and need to call the cops as backup to take on a 5yr old, you pretty much have failed at being a adult.

when I was that age teachers had paddles, and the kids attitude was changed quickly....and....the parents backed up the teacher, none of this "you can't touch my innocent baby" crap, you got your fanny whacked, and there wasn't even a thought toward suing the school. in fact, I personally, was punished again when I got home for embarrassing my folks in front of the teacher, when they had to go down there and explain my behavior.

originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Some times the police do this, with the consent of the parent, to scare a kid. The scared straight tactic.

My stepmother pulled that BS!

You know why? I found her pantyhose and put it in my room. Oooooooooo, I'm a baaaaaad kid! I spent 8 hours in a cell with a shower curtain for a blanket.

do we all feel safer yet?

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Why is it the parents are never to blame? Their child is basically going ballistic in school yet it's the teacher, the administration or the fault of the cops who came. Why are they hammering this message that somebody other than the parents is responsible for the behavior of these kids?

I've run in to some of these kinds of kids personally and they just might make you believe in demonic possession. They respond to nothing positive or negative - they just do their thing and explode like tiny nuclear bombs. it's easy to sit here and criticize how adults on scene handled the situation but try dealing with some of these hellspawn yourself, it might change your opinion somewhat.

I agree, some of these kids are just demon spawn but to those folks they are Wittle ittle angels! I remember reading one article about a kid got a D on a test. Instead of telling the kid to crack down, what do Mom and Dad do? Beat the crap out the teacher. Way to teach little Johnny!

originally posted by: Irishhaf
If a teacher lays a hand on kids they get sued, if the principal can't calm the kid down they call the parents, if the parents won't come get them, the only option they have left is to call the cops.

Or the Principal can break the law like one we had at one school. They would call me Every. Single. Day! 5 minutes after the bell rang for school. You need to come pick her up. She ripped up her paper. Seriously? You can't give her a new one? Teach her! You need to come pick her up, she threw her crayon on the floor. For pete's sake! You need to come pick her up, she broke her pencil on purpose. (This is the principal that was trying to kick her out over every offense.) I was getting dropped by doctor's offices for cancelling last minute because of the school's games. Finally I said that's IT! No more. TEACH HER! You refuse to put her in an autistic school because "You can handle her", so handle her! Next thing I know, I get a call from the principal, I'm dropping her off at your house. I NEVER GAVE YOU PERMISSION FOR THAT!

Isn't breaking the law awesome! They can do it, but you can't.

originally posted by: Pitou
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I've heard and read about these insane arrests and suspensions of kids, not just in the USA but also in the UK where it's not as bad however. In the topic about the 9-year-old being suspended I said I literally cannot believe it and I still feel somewhat incapable of doing so. The videos you posted are nauseating even though probably most of them are scare tactics. Like with the last boy, the black 7-year-old, I clicked on the YouTube link and read in the comments that it was to prevent him from stealing in the future. Viewing it shocked me but luckily that at least wasn't an actual arrest. (or attempt to, I don't think such young children can be arrested anywhere in the USA... right?)

There're several mentions of absolutely horrible and insane events but I wonder... these things don't happen over here and it's not like American people suddenly had a wholesale drop in IQ to that of a potato, nor have they suddenly become insane. How is this possible?

If this is not grossly exaggerated I really wonder what the heck is going on. Unfathomable. And when such things happen at schools,how come parents still send their kids there after something like that happened. I'd be worried about my child's personal safety, be it psychological or physical. Such schools and teachers prove to be a danger for your kid's well-being.

In some counties you do not have a choice. Some counties refuse to allow you to switch schools because there is only one school per specific grade levels. For example, our town, where my daughter attended at the time where we went through the worst of it there were 2 schools for Pre-k, one school for Kindergarten (the other 2 were closed due to budget), one for 6-8, again 2 were closed for budget, and one for 9-12, the other was closed for budget, but there was one Catholic, but it was quite expensive. I had been trying to enroll my daughter in an autistic school, but the board kept turning it down claiming she was fine where she was. I had a recommendation from her psychiatrist, her therapist, and her pediatrician. The board told me that those were medical recommendations and doctors only know what goes on in a medical setting, not an educational setting, so really all they could do were to take those under advisement. It wasn't until the jerk principal tried to remove my daughter from my home and have her put in foster care I was able to get a ball rolling to get her into the autism school. I had legal counsel by then. The principal wanted my daughter in a Juvie school setting which was illegal to do in the state with special needs, something I knew our rights on and it ticked him off! So, technically, thanks to him, I was able to get her into Autism school and the town had to pay for busing because it was 2 towns over, which ticked them off as well.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Why is it the parents are never to blame? Their child is basically going ballistic in school yet it's the teacher, the administration or the fault of the cops who came. Why are they hammering this message that somebody other than the parents is responsible for the behavior of these kids?

I've run in to some of these kinds of kids personally and they just might make you believe in demonic possession. They respond to nothing positive or negative - they just do their thing and explode like tiny nuclear bombs. it's easy to sit here and criticize how adults on scene handled the situation but try dealing with some of these hellspawn yourself, it might change your opinion somewhat.

Okay. I am so tired of hearing this "it's the parent's fault" crap. Pardon the caps. I don't normally do this but...

YOU CAN'T DISCIPLINE YOUR CHILD IN THE UNITED STATES!!!

If you do, you run the risk of having your child removed from your home or being arrested (and then having your child removed). People are calling the cops to supervise a spanking to cover their a$$es for chrissake. Get a grip. They are raising "hellspawn" because they can't raise their kids; not won't, CAN'T. Go ahead, pop me for language. I give a crap. I'm so sick of people pointing their fingers at parents that are usually just trying to do their best in a system that WON'T ALLOW THEM TO PARENT.

Get it through your thick heads.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Dude parents arent to blame for loser cops arresting kindergarden kids. . .

Dude, cops aren't to blame for kids that act out so badly the teachers request back up.