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originally posted by: Shakawkaw
originally posted by: maxzen2004
Jonathan Cahn scary prediction
this guy is very credible.
How so?
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Oujia boards are just toys. There's nothing real there. Nothing. You buy them in Toys R Us for God sake. a reply to: ketsuko
originally posted by: ketsuko
That's just it - You can disbelieve or what have you, but his reasoning goes that at the time, most of the people living in this country were Christian so the ritual and symbolism surrounding the Founding and dedication used that symbolism, the symbolism found surrounding the founding and dedication of Biblical Israel/Judea. You may not take it seriously, you might even take the position that the Founders might not have, but if there is a God (I believe there is), He did. And so long as the majority of the people who lived here lived in a way mostly in accordance with Him and His Law, He was content to bless this country.
God is slow to anger, but once His anger is roused, it is not easily turned aside. So we have reached the point where we are being warned. Cahn's position is that we are receiving the same warnings in the same patterns as Biblical Israel/Judea received them before God humbled them as a nation. And he also sees that we are following the same pattern of arrogance they followed.
It's the same reason you don't play with an Ouija board. If supernatural forces exist, you are opening yourself to trouble even if you think you are playing a game. You simply don't mess with things you don't understand.
But, no matter, it's easy enough to wait until September.
originally posted by: ketsuko
That's just it - You can disbelieve or what have you, but his reasoning goes that at the time, most of the people living in this country were Christian so the ritual and symbolism surrounding the Founding and dedication used that symbolism, the symbolism found surrounding the founding and dedication of Biblical Israel/Judea. You may not take it seriously, you might even take the position that the Founders might not have, but if there is a God (I believe there is), He did. And so long as the majority of the people who lived here lived in a way mostly in accordance with Him and His Law, He was content to bless this country.
God is slow to anger, but once His anger is roused, it is not easily turned aside. So we have reached the point where we are being warned. Cahn's position is that we are receiving the same warnings in the same patterns as Biblical Israel/Judea received them before God humbled them as a nation. And he also sees that we are following the same pattern of arrogance they followed.
It's the same reason you don't play with an Ouija board. If supernatural forces exist, you are opening yourself to trouble even if you think you are playing a game. You simply don't mess with things you don't understand.
But, no matter, it's easy enough to wait until September.
but if there is a God (I believe there is), He did.
As spiritualism had grown in American culture, so too did frustration with how long it took to get any meaningful message out of the spirits, says Brandon Hodge, Spiritualism historian. Calling out the alphabet and waiting for a knock at the right letter, for example, was deeply boring. After all, rapid communication with breathing humans at far distances was a possibility—the telegraph had been around for decades—why shouldn’t spirits be as easy to reach? People were desperate for methods of communication that would be quicker—and while several entrepreneurs realized that, it was the Kennard Novelty Company that really nailed it.
In 1886, the fledgling Associated Press reported on a new phenomenon taking over the spiritualists’ camps in Ohio, the talking board; it was, for all intents and purposes, a Ouija board, with letters, numbers and a planchette-like device to point to them. The article went far and wide, but it was Charles Kennard of Baltimore, Maryland who acted on it. In 1890, he pulled together a group of four other investors—including Elijah Bond, a local attorney, and Col. Washington Bowie, a surveyor—to start the Kennard Novelty Company to exclusively make and market these new talking boards. None of the men were spiritualists, really, but they were all of them keen businessmen and they’d identified a niche.
But the real question, the one everyone wants to know, is how do Ouija boards work?
Ouija boards are not, scientists say, powered by spirits or even demons. Disappointing but also potentially useful—because they’re powered by us, even when we protest that we’re not doing it, we swear. Ouija boards work on a principle known to those studying the mind for more than 160 years: the ideometer effect. In 1852, physician and physiologist William Benjamin Carpenter published a report for the Royal Institution of Great Britain, examining these automatic muscular movements that take place without the conscious will or volition of the individual (think crying in reaction to a sad film, for example). Almost immediately, other researchers saw applications of the ideometer effect in the popular spiritualist pastimes. In 1853, chemist and physicist Michael Faraday, intrigued by table-turning, conducted a series of experiments that proved to him (though not to most spiritualists) that the table’s motion was due to the ideomotor actions of the participants.
The effect is very convincing. As Dr. Chris French, professor of psychology and anomalistic psychology at Goldsmiths, University of London, explains, “It can generate a very strong impression that the movement is being caused by some outside agency, but it’s not.” Other devices, such as dowsing rods, or more recently, the fake bomb detection kits that deceived scores of international governments and armed services, work on the same principle of non-conscious movement. “The thing about all these mechanisms we’re talking about, dowsing rods, Oujia boards, pendulums, these small tables, they’re all devices whereby a quite a small muscular movement can cause quite a large effect,” he says. Planchettes, in particular, are well-suited for their task—many used to be constructed of a lightweight wooden board and fitted with small casters to help them move more smoothly and freely; now, they’re usually plastic and have felt feet, which also help it slide over the board easily.
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: ketsuko
That's just it - You can disbelieve or what have you, but his reasoning goes that at the time, most of the people living in this country were Christian so the ritual and symbolism surrounding the Founding and dedication used that symbolism, the symbolism found surrounding the founding and dedication of Biblical Israel/Judea. You may not take it seriously, you might even take the position that the Founders might not have, but if there is a God (I believe there is), He did. And so long as the majority of the people who lived here lived in a way mostly in accordance with Him and His Law, He was content to bless this country.
God is slow to anger, but once His anger is roused, it is not easily turned aside. So we have reached the point where we are being warned. Cahn's position is that we are receiving the same warnings in the same patterns as Biblical Israel/Judea received them before God humbled them as a nation. And he also sees that we are following the same pattern of arrogance they followed.
It's the same reason you don't play with an Ouija board. If supernatural forces exist, you are opening yourself to trouble even if you think you are playing a game. You simply don't mess with things you don't understand.
But, no matter, it's easy enough to wait until September.
Poor Christians really never get to have any fun, do they?
I was playing with Ouija board just last night and nobody has possessed me y-gadh;ruandfjkhasdg;jkasdgaGRRRAHHH ALL GLORY TO SATAN UPON HIGH.
originally posted by: stosh64
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: ketsuko
That's just it - You can disbelieve or what have you, but his reasoning goes that at the time, most of the people living in this country were Christian so the ritual and symbolism surrounding the Founding and dedication used that symbolism, the symbolism found surrounding the founding and dedication of Biblical Israel/Judea. You may not take it seriously, you might even take the position that the Founders might not have, but if there is a God (I believe there is), He did. And so long as the majority of the people who lived here lived in a way mostly in accordance with Him and His Law, He was content to bless this country.
God is slow to anger, but once His anger is roused, it is not easily turned aside. So we have reached the point where we are being warned. Cahn's position is that we are receiving the same warnings in the same patterns as Biblical Israel/Judea received them before God humbled them as a nation. And he also sees that we are following the same pattern of arrogance they followed.
It's the same reason you don't play with an Ouija board. If supernatural forces exist, you are opening yourself to trouble even if you think you are playing a game. You simply don't mess with things you don't understand.
But, no matter, it's easy enough to wait until September.
Poor Christians really never get to have any fun, do they?
Its a tough life being a Christian Joking aside be careful with that Ouija bored eunicorn, I enjoy your posts and would miss them if you get possessed. Or....maybe that's why I like them? hmmm......
originally posted by: maxzen2004
Jonathan Cahn scary prediction
I would like nice useful comments, this guy is very credible.