Do You See What This Police Officer Saw? Her Superiors Didn’t — So Now Police Are Apologizing

originally posted by: butcherguy
Imagine how many arrests they could make at a golf course.

lol....

ID

a reply to: ItalianDressing

Ah yes, the fight it in court stance.

In order to exercise your right you need to go through the burden of taking time out of your life which will most likely cost you money and possibly even have to obtain a lawyer which ain't cheap.

No, fight it on the street. We do not need to lick the boots of the cops cause that is the easy thing to do.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

My interpretation of this is that she is saying the man swung the club at her at a different intersection, if you listen to her saying something about swinging the club at her at 11th and polk maybe??? seemed a bit of overkill to me, but when two hard heads get together there's bound to be something going down.

reply to: ItalianDressing

Thanks for the compliment.

Yes there may be another side but the problem is that she can't prove anything. Her camera magically works when confronting him but somehow is blank when looking for the instance she is claiming where he waved the club so no evidence is forthcoming. Too convenient so that even the chief puts out an apology. He knows that her story is inconsistent with the evidence.

Peace

There is a couple things here that seem stupid;

First the Cop has had multiple issues in the past so she is no Commissioner Gordon, but her complaint is that the guy pointed the golf club at her when she drove by him (at least that's the standpoint of the Police Union). This explains how she knew about the golf club, but that doesn't warrant she conducting a stop.

Stupid thing here is that a Cop with a known history of stupid behavior still acts stupid even when a camera is on her while she's on patrol (she should have been mandated to wear a badge cam while on duty. Those are being tested in Seattle Wa which is where this happened)

Why (or should I say who) uses a golf club has a walking cane? I mean really? He should have placed the club down, but I get why he might be confused by the request.

Stupid thing here is the golf club. I mean really walking around a major city with a golf club isn't going to raise the suspicion flag? The guy looked well dressed so being a homeless guy with a prized find is out of the question, and so is the idea that he was just playing through. It's a city street not a golfing green.

This was just a recorded case of stupid.

Why could he not just listen and put it down?

When the police go to golf courses and force golfers to drop their clubs. Looks like some people are already used to obeying unnecessary demands from the police.

a reply to: jude11

Gotta say...that's pretty weird. He obviously didn't swing the golf club. And since when is a golf club a weapon? And we seem to be hearing more and more of reports like this, i.e., over zealous police randomly asserting authority.

I've thought about this and I have to wonder if we don't have the proverbial dog chasing its tail problem going on here. More and more civilians seem to be resistant to assertion of police authority and I posit that's causing the cops to get ever more assertive in projecting that authority. They're nearing the point of daring people to not comply with what are obvious BS demands to justify escalation of the situation.

I don't know about Seattle and would never to visit there, but in Texas, this phenomenon has been aggravated in the cities by the fact that anyone can buy police uniforms, complete with badges and insignia at the local flea markets. And people do! And then they go on home invasion crime sprees. That's been particularly popular in Houston and Dallas. And of course, they can buy the old used cop cars.

As a result, no one anymore knows who their dealing with in a uniform. The obvious solution is to avoid places where the cops are going to be...like the cities.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

I fully agree, out of control cop, the guy should look into a lawyer and sue her butt.
He was doing nothing wrong, therefor no reason she should have stopped in the first place.
Cops are getting out of control with things like this, they were in the wrong, not him.
Good thing she did not roll up on me, the golf club would be the least of her worries since i always carry when i leave the house, im sure once she saw the butt of my pistol poking out she would have lost her mind and either pulled her tazer or pistol, either way i would have to defend my self.

a reply to: FatherStacks

again I thin there needs to be some type of consequence or compensation if someone is being falsely arrested and there time and freedom is being taken away. Like you said that might be the problem that officers are beyond reproach. ofcourse officers still need to have their authority but there needs to be some balance for the good citizen who is being taken advantaged of.

a reply to: jude11

The lying bitch.

In my opinion, that man gets a free swing at her head.

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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ItalianDressing

Ah yes, the fight it in court stance.

In order to exercise your right you need to go through the burden of taking time out of your life which will most likely cost you money and possibly even have to obtain a lawyer which ain't cheap.

No, fight it on the street. We do not need to lick the boots of the cops cause that is the easy thing to do.

So when your on the street, tell the cop, no you will not drop your weapon and to fk off..If you make it back here to post great but most likely I will hear about you on the evening news. Being gunned down for dumbness.

ID

a reply to: ItalianDressing

We are already in a police state. You have to pick and choose your battles. Fighting a cop in this day in age one on one physically will get you nowhere.

ID

a reply to: ItalianDressing

But we don't need to address the other side of that?
The cop gunning you down for you standing up for your rights.
So instead of coming in withe dribble of "just do what the cops tell you" how about come in with "why are cops doing this"


Ya, it's it the dumbness of the person not obeying you are correct.... /sarc

I have nothing nice to say, that is my comment.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ItalianDressing

But we don't need to address the other side of that?
The cop gunning you down for you standing up for your rights.
So instead of coming in withe dribble of "just do what the cops tell you" how about come in with "why are cops doing this"


Ya, it's it the dumbness of the person not obeying you are correct.... /sarc

If you stop and look at what I said, as far as the whole story and the fact that the cop went directly to that stop to that guy without having to search or anything..... And the fact that you cannot see the club..... She did not target him for the fking club! She went RIGHT THERE to where he was. My only logical guess is because she got a CALL and a DESCRIPTION. This man MADE someone call for whatever actions he did.

ID

a reply to: American-philosopher

I would agree. There does need to be some form of compensation and/or consequence. What that is, I don't know. Is the apology enough? If nothing, it is a step in the right direction and an inference of wrong doing. Is the man entitled to $750,000? Again, perhaps. How do you place monetary value on something like your freedom to travel at will, right to peace of mind, and the right to mind your own business? Is $700k enough, too little, too much? If he receives that amount, I'm ok with it.

You're right that the citizen-police power dynamic needs rebalancing. As you say, cops need the authority to handle people who are truly breaking the law and disturbing the peace, yet there needs to be solid repercussions when they over step that authority and kill someone, harass someone, or violate their god-given civil liberties. Too many are getting a free pass...which goes back to my point that police culture needs fixing and society as a whole needs to wake up and take a stand against such injustices.

a reply to: ItalianDressing

Did you watch the video?

Cause what you describe goes against almost everything she said.

The PD she worked for issued and apology, what do you think that means?

After reviewing the incident — the video does not seem to show the old man swinging his cane like a weapon — police determined that they were in the wrong.

So again, no need to fight this in court if you know you have done nothing wrong.

Yep they already admitted guilt. Look at them clowns escalating it so they can do what gun him down on the streets? People walking their dogs going by everything is calm except the guy that's pissed he got pulled over for nothing. See how they play on that. Let's see how far we can make this go. Notice how they pull him away from the cop cars camera and sound. Classic tactic when you got something you want to hide. Then she even stops the camera to rewind it because she second guesses herself if he swung it or not. These guys a criminal predators with a badge. I mean wth is the world coming to?? If you steal a piece of penny candy and you might wind up dead on slab in the morgue.

a reply to: jude11

Her knowing that he had the club as soon as she arrived is evidence of her having knowledge of it prior to the video, and she was saying he swung the club at some location. I assume her stating the location he swung the club at is in reference to some other location, since you wouldn't say at "blah and blahblah street" unless it was a reference to a different location.

Now what happen prior to the video... who knows - can't say if she was lying or not - the video doesn't show that.

eta: Sorry, had I seen Rusty's post I wouldn't have posted.

originally posted by: rustydog
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

My interpretation of this is that she is saying the man swung the club at her at a different intersection, if you listen to her saying something about swinging the club at her at 11th and polk maybe??? seemed a bit of overkill to me, but when two hard heads get together there's bound to be something going down.

Apparently we are the only two that actually listened to the vid. What's with the lynch mob mentality? If you listen, she talks about the man swinging the club at her at 11th & Pike. This is obviously NOT 11th & Pike or the footage of that intersection. Who knows what he actually did without seeing that video, if in fact there is a video of his alleged swinging of the club.

Typical Of the Blaze to spin a story.