Swamp Ape/ Bigfoot... Some compelling video taken in Jan 2015.

a reply to: HarryJoy

Its well made suit if its a suit. Then adding what you said to it? That is costly. That would cost a lot of money just to shoot a very vague, yet semi compelling hoax video.

I think it is his right hand dangling


a reply to: Vasa Croe

"a suit" is the same ubiquitous response as "Chinese lanterns"


a reply to: Bloodydagger

a reply to: bottleslingguy

Or swamp gas...venus.....mars.....lol

These are hail mary last ditch efforts that armchair skeptics always use when trying to debunk these things.

Im not going to make an opinion as to what the thing is, however im not convinced that whatever it is, has a tail.
I think what we're seeing is its fur being drawn from the water. When fur gets wet it will naturally gather to a point for the water to drain from it, any sudden movement will then give the fur an almost swooshy appearance and I think its that what we're seeing and mistaking for a tail.
Its definately an interesting clip, all the same.

originally posted by: HarryJoy
Dudes!! You gotta admit that Mark M is just too cool. I mean no ordinary person would be canoeing around in a swamp by themselves and see even a bear and not let some sound slip out of your mouth.

I have encountered bears etc. at close range while alone and just watch quietly. I just like to watch those kind of things and react as little as possible to extend the experience. It wouldn't occur to me to open my mouth when nobody is there to listen. That's just me. Honestly I tend to react less, the more crazy something gets (car crash, tree fall, etc). It's just a personality thing.

Some people react differently, but I wouldn't use his silence as any kind of indicator of hoax. In fact, it appears that he attempts to put the oars away as quietly as possible (though fails somewhat since a canoe is basically a sounding board).

originally posted by: Catch_a_Fire
Im not going to make an opinion as to what the thing is, however im not convinced that whatever it is, has a tail.
I think what we're seeing is its fur being drawn from the water. When fur gets wet it will naturally gather to a point for the water to drain from it, any sudden movement will then give the fur an almost swooshy appearance and I think its that what we're seeing and mistaking for a tail.
Its definately an interesting clip, all the same.

Or whoever was in the suit stood on a stick and it whipped up out of the water.

a reply to: GArnold
Was that Matt Moneymaker off Bigfoot hunters????

a reply to: TXRabbit

You have a point about the Youtube channel. I would just put it on my own channel and get all the hits myself. Overnight stardom.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
a reply to: bottleslingguy

Or swamp gas...venus.....mars.....lol

These are hail mary last ditch efforts that armchair skeptics always use when trying to debunk these things.

Ironically, I have never seen one video that wasn't debunked. Just saying.

originally posted by: Insidedaheart
a reply to: GArnold
Was that Matt Moneymaker off Bigfoot hunters????

Matt Moneymaker is the founder of the BFRO. Its a strange coincidence huh?

a reply to: Vaedur

Or perhaps debunked in a way that sits well within your belief system.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Catch_a_Fire
Im not going to make an opinion as to what the thing is, however im not convinced that whatever it is, has a tail.
I think what we're seeing is its fur being drawn from the water. When fur gets wet it will naturally gather to a point for the water to drain from it, any sudden movement will then give the fur an almost swooshy appearance and I think its that what we're seeing and mistaking for a tail.
Its definately an interesting clip, all the same.

Or whoever was in the suit stood on a stick and it whipped up out of the water.

I don't know why people keep saying it was a stick...the thing clearly bends and whips in a flexible way.

originally posted by: TheJourney

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Catch_a_Fire
Im not going to make an opinion as to what the thing is, however im not convinced that whatever it is, has a tail.
I think what we're seeing is its fur being drawn from the water. When fur gets wet it will naturally gather to a point for the water to drain from it, any sudden movement will then give the fur an almost swooshy appearance and I think its that what we're seeing and mistaking for a tail.
Its definately an interesting clip, all the same.

Or whoever was in the suit stood on a stick and it whipped up out of the water.

I don't know why people keep saying it was a stick...the thing clearly bends and whips in a flexible way.

Like a wet stick then.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Very possible also, as well as the snake arse bite theory, again very possible.
One thing ive learned from ATS is we cant rule anything out.

After I watched it the first time I was very intrigued. I have seen it a few more times and Im convinced its fake now.

Picture this when watching it again. A man wearing a mesh ghillie suit made of synthetic fiber. They weigh next to nothing and look just like this. When I watch it with the preconception of a man in a ghillie, it doesnt strike me as anything else. Whereas I thought ape before.

Matt M.....
Why wouldnt he post his second name?

Unless it is mr. Moneymaker, i cant think of any other reason.
For annonymity? Dont think so..

Another thing, when it stands up look at the size of its back its huge.
Also when it brushes off the tree, look at how much the tree moves. Quite a bit, some strength there.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

no way can that be mistaken for a wet stick,,but it could be a rubber toy snake prop.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
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edit on 28/1/15 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: Soloprotocol

no way can that be mistaken for a wet stick,,but it could be a rubber toy snake prop.

I know one thing....It's a Guy or a girl in a dark ape suit, in fact it could be a ill fitting Armani suit for all we know. Another crap video for the deluded to fall for... Bigfoot is a Myth and so are deep water diving 12 foot Gator battling Skunk apes for Christ sake.