What "American Sniper" Was Really About

originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Prezbo369
What was the wrongdoing that you can pinpoint with Kyle's service? If you ramble on about TPTB and being a puppet for a master and all of that crap, save it. If you have something intelligent to say about it, then by all means, please continue the discussion.

Right, ignore all the points I raised and then act asthough you're an authority on this thread......funny, you're not in the military here son.

The man was a proven liar and yet is heralded as a hero due to his tales, and anybody fighting for anyone else should always be held accountable for their actions. By saying that they shouldn't be held accountable or put under any kind of criticism is part of the problem, and by association, so are you.

I think we need to make a distinction between the film and Kyle. As the director, Clint Eastwood was entitled to make the film of his choice and, in my opinion, it should be judged as a film. DId it work as a film? Yes, it did. It was a reasonably compelling story reasonably well told. Was it a great film? Not in my opinion. It was a middling good film. Again in my opinion, it was not Oscar nomination worthy. It would have been far better had it been about a full human being with complexity rather than about a killing machine with a heart of gold. I don't think it glorified war, but it certainly did glorify the main character which is, of course, the director's right.

As for Kyle, the actual person, that's another matter.

originally posted by: Tangerine
I think we need to make a distinction between the film and Kyle. As the director, Clint Eastwood was entitled to make the film of his choice and, in my opinion, it should be judged as a film. DId it work as a film? Yes, it did. It was a reasonably compelling story reasonably well told. Was it a great film? Not in my opinion. It was a middling good film. Again in my opinion, it was not Oscar nomination worthy. It would have been far better had it been about a full human being with complexity rather than about a killing machine with a heart of gold. I don't think it glorified war, but it certainly did glorify the main character which is, of course, the director's right.

As for Kyle, the actual person, that's another matter.

I personally didn't enjoy it that much, the set pieces were awful (the hordes of mordor descending on his building after his long shot), the antagonists were like game bosses or comic book characters and the love story was contrived.

It really did feel like a fisherman's tale, so to speak.

originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: Tangerine
I think we need to make a distinction between the film and Kyle. As the director, Clint Eastwood was entitled to make the film of his choice and, in my opinion, it should be judged as a film. DId it work as a film? Yes, it did. It was a reasonably compelling story reasonably well told. Was it a great film? Not in my opinion. It was a middling good film. Again in my opinion, it was not Oscar nomination worthy. It would have been far better had it been about a full human being with complexity rather than about a killing machine with a heart of gold. I don't think it glorified war, but it certainly did glorify the main character which is, of course, the director's right.

As for Kyle, the actual person, that's another matter.

I personally didn't enjoy it that much, the set pieces were awful (the hordes of mordor descending on his building after his long shot), the antagonists were like game bosses or comic book characters and the love story was contrived.

It really did feel like a fisherman's tale, so to speak.

I agree. It simply wasn't engaging. I didn't care about the protagonist. He simply wasn't interesting enough to care about. His sniper counterpart was also a blank slate. We've seen far too many people shot on TV and in the movies to have that engage us.

The EU through its MKULTRA manipulation has orchestrated the assassination of Chris Kyle in the US. The stigmatization and misrepresentations of Sharpshooters in the US is also the result of EU propaganda and EU subversion against the US after the Vietnam war and thereafter.