I like David Icke

originally posted by: TrueMessiah

originally posted by: AthlonSavage
You know common sense tells you that people who go missing are by human intervention, not by Reptiles who have travelled light years. The point im making is that the reptilian story is a convenient cover story. Im not suggesting hes part of a conspiracy to cover up, im suggesting his storys of reptiles are muddying the waters of common sense, where the origin of strange happenings will not be a reptilian it will be human.

No, just to be clear, research and study would tell you that Ickes theory centers around the reptilians being interdimensional parasites with shape shifting abilities who exist outside of human perception, not the reptilians being the abductors. The Greys are presumed the culprits for a percentage of abductions along with the U.S. military.

Why is the reptilian story a cover? Muddying the waters for what? Why can't he just be "adding on to the water" which already exists?

sigh! this is why he makes money with reptile theories, and make no mistake hes making a comfortable living from this stuff.

a reply to: Gh0stwalker I do like david icke. Take out some of his more wild theories and he actually does make a lot of sense in some of what he says. Although many do not believe in reptilians i do, however i do not believe it is as simple as the queen or most of the presidents being shape shifting reptilians,however the shapeshifting reptilians can take thier form but they are not the original human entity. These entities have powerful hypnotic abilitities and can control humans and others (greys ,mantids and other reptilians with these abilities) It would make sense that these entities would try and control those in leadership positions through mind control and that these leaders would also have several clones made of them. It is probable that these entities would need original dna samples of the person that they were to imitate. It is also probable that it would prevent significant difficulties for these entities to hold human form for long and it would be almost impossible for them to carry life on as a human being especially a human being in a very public position. With much of the material out there (and there is a lot more than just Ickes stuff)( just look at some of the bases stuff if you want to have your head spun right out ) it is fairly clear that these entities exist and that there is very clearly a highracky Within them. The draco reptilians that Icke is describing are supposubly the rulers over the native reptilians ( lacertans reptilians ) and there is quite a bit of alien information that indeed does back this up. The draco reptilians coming from dragons are probably satans race and the bible actually confirms this when it calls satan a dragon. The Bible mentions reptilians in several other places and tells us that they are very smart (be wise as serpents)( a dragon being a flying serpent )
As the animal reptiles on this planet are not wise then the bible is clearly refering to other entities
The other question that you have to ask yourself is why is there so much in folklaw, myths and stories that seem to describe these entities in detail with a considerable amount of descriptions matching among cultures from around the world that probably did not know about one another.

a reply to: onequestion

When I came to ATS and saw how badly shills attacked Icke

I knew there was something to the guy

originally posted by: AthlonSavage

sigh! this is why he makes money with reptile theories, and make no mistake hes making a comfortable living from this stuff.

Ahh....the old lets attack him making a living (just like everyone else) cop out rebuttal.

I paid nothing but learned a lot just from reading free books like Children Of The Matrix, Tales From The Time Loop, and The Biggest Secret.

Knowledge and awareness are priceless.

originally posted by: onequestion
Ok so when I first came into Icke's philosophy I immediately reject it. What stood out the most for me was the reptilian idea. Now fast forward nearly a decade later and I love his work. The idea of repitlians in the way that he uses doesn't even seem that far fetched to me now. There has been more traction lately to the elite pedophilia rings we and they have been talking about. I agree with his premise on the elite royal "blue" bloodlines, and almost everything he says actually now.

Heres a video where Icke is interviewed by Red Ice Radio where he talks about the perception deception. I reccomend you watch it, if for nothing other than perspective. I realize hes worth 10 million according to Celebrity Net Worth. Honestly I don't see a problem with making money off of good ideas. Im not totally against people using their ideas as a way to make money.

I still think the reptilian idea is a bit far fetched.

I do, however, think that he has some deep insights or awareness of mysticism and spirituality. I like him, even though I'm not sure I buy all of his reptilian ideas.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Yeah, he watched The Matrix and "What the Bleep do we Know" Maybe read some "Robert Anton Wilson" might have spent a whole week putting a bunch of stuff he got at Barnes and Noble together because he realized his "reptilian" crap was too Retarded to keep making him money and someone would eventually have him shot in the face for accusing them of crazy bs...

I admit his stuff is better now, but it's mainly regurgitated stuff other people did, not more than a book report.

"I am the son of God" ... he said when going through a transformation and in a state of confusion ...

I think only small minded people would condemn such a statement ...
God knows how many people have uttered such "Heresy" whilst "Away with the fairy's" on some hallucinogenic.

Actually there is mileage in his statement if we considered ourselves as sons and daughters of "God" ...

originally posted by: SprocketUK
As time goes on, have come to see more and more truth in what David Icke says.
I always git stuck on the reptilian thing, but as the bard said "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio..."

I don't buy the line that he's a charlatan or a money grubber or similar.

I'm the same. I get hung up on this wilder theories. But I also have a fairly strong intuition. As you say, I don't get the feeling he is insincere. Also, he does have a strangely good vibe in his philosophy talks.

a reply to: onequestion
The video seems to have been removed or made private.

I like David Icke too.

The funny thing is, is that the first book I read about
reptilians was not a book written by David Icke, but
rather it was a Christian book I picked up at the
salvation army and it was a kind of what the heck
kind of reaction book.

I didn't even hear of David Icke and his book
The Greatest Secret never told (or whatever
the title was) in which I've heard he was the
first to talk about humanoid reptilians.

I never read the book but I have watched numerous
lectures he's given over the years, and I have noticed
that around 2005 or so, he was referring mostly to
reptilians, that later changed to reptoids.

His story was that he was going to be a guest on
some T.V. show I think, and he was in the rooms
where they powder your face and all that, and
another guest of the show was in the same room
and Icke actually saw his reptilian self and the
reptilian guy was completely unaware that David
was able to see his true form.

Back then he described them as actually physical
shape shifters, however I have never encountered
anyone like Icke who claims they can see them
in their reptilian form when they have not in
fact shape shifted, that is to say everyone else
apparently does not see them in their reptilian
form except for special people who can.

Now, he refers to them as reptoids, and that the
reptilian part of them is actually an entity from
another dimension.

I think this is when so many Christians grabbed hold
of the idea because it fit their paradigm of demons
and possession.

In spite of all this, and I have not concluded whether
or not reptilians or reptoids actually exist,
and in spite of how Icke's reptilians have evolved
into reptoids, I still like Icke.

To me, Icke is an incredible intelligent man, and much
of what he speaks about (this incredible tapestry, its in
the tapestry mate) I agree with.

There are symbols everywhere that seem to be pieces
of some kind of tapestry.

I don't know if anyone here has experimented with EVP,
but I took recordings for years, and heard thousands of
EVP "voices", and I could separate them into three kinds,
one sounded absolutely human (men, women, children),
the second were noises, and the third category were what
sounded to me to be non-human, reptilian.

Just my two cents.

Rebel 5

His forum mods have multiple ID's and one, who has left now read PM's between members. If Icke wishes his name to be associated with that, then let the cards fall as they may, after all,It's in his name, maybe he might want to take a controlling hand.
As for TPV, utter fiasco, pleaded for financial donations, went to pot in a couple of months. Somebody ended up with the broadcasting equipment though didn't they?
Forecast a paedo? Most folks in show business knew that already, ask the Royal family, especially Prince Charles. Big deal.

a reply to: onequestion

With regards to reptilians, my issue is a simple one: How is it that we never, ever, see any real evidence? I mean, surely, doctors would notice...undertakers...dentists...nurses. The list goes on.

I find it incredible that reptilians are in our midst, and yet only people with deep seated (generally speaking) paranoia and conspiracy issues knows this?

"Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, mainstream media destroys information and religions destroy spirituality" ~ David Icke


A common misconception about Icke's reptilians is that he calls them such because many ancient texts and manuscripts describe these entities as being reptilian in appearance, though in recent times they have been given different names ranging from Demons to Djinn.



In this video about Satanic Ritual he somewhat explains how the elite are contacting these entities and become influenced by them, which ties directly into the high-profile pedophilia cases in the UK right now.


"What we perceive as miracles is just a greater understanding of the true nature of reality. Until we expand our consciousness we cannot be aware of the true nature of freedom, because it's not even what we perceive in this world"

People dont like him because he calls out the elite at every turn! He is a noble warrior against the dumbing down of the masses and exposes the big corporate companies like Monsanto which are pretty much run by super villians like the red skull lolz.

a reply to: onequestion

I started to take Icke more serious after Jesse Ventura assassinated his character over the reptilian stuff. I began to think he was on to something to warrant such a smearing. I dont buy the lizard morphing in to humans per say but think of it as a metaphor. I can entertain the idea cant I ?

And I take fringe topics with a grain of salt. If he believed in the Easter bunny does that mean he is a shill? He is accurate about the Rothchilds and the royal family. That must rock the boat. Because you dont see him getting smeared about it. Hence he is always attacked over the reptilian idea. They want him discredited imo.

David is a cardholding member of the Paranormal Money Machine.
As such, the conflict of interest overwhelms any of his claims. To me, anyway.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: onequestion

I like him as well. And the world is run by snakes figuratively
speaking whether or not they shapeshift. So what does it matter?
A snake is true to it's nature either way. So in my mind why not
make shapeshifting reptoids out of 'em.

SnF

So true.

a reply to: PeterMcFly

It's not though.

He's being serious about it, so are the supposed abductees, see this theory is partially based on abduction accounts, occultism and mythology.

I also adore David Icke, and I've read two of his books.
They are great, but they sorta say the same thing.
So if you've read two books, I wouldnt recommend reading more - he sorta brings up the same things again.

But I like David Icke - and I was really hoping his new Radio/TV/Internet show would really kick-off, but I havent heard much about it lately.

I guess ATS majority thinks Icke is a nutter. Well, he is not.
Even if he believes in something you do not - and even if he cannot back it up with actual evidence - it doesn't mean what he is saying are lies. It just means that HE feels he has enough evidence or "feeling" or whatever - to believe what he believes.

And upon examining his personality, in both books and his shows - it is clear he is not insane.

And by the way, even if you disagree about the whole Reptilian thing - he still has a phonomenal insight into the human spirit, consciousness, society, power structure, and some of it is pretty "out there" and purely speculative - but in the future when we as humans advance more - he just might be proven right.

He was right about the Elite Paedophelia - way before it was even discussed on a international scale.
He seems to actually have in possesion alot of information; that to many - seems absurd and ludicrous - but he might just be ahead of his time.

He might be right about all his "whacky" theories of "the matrix", "the holographic universe", and - perhaps even the Reptilians.

I give him two thumbs up.