The era of Aletheia, a place I would love to live in..

The era of Aletheia, a place I would love to live in..

There shall be full transparicy regarding everything the goverment, companies, media, organisations do. When it comes to personal information, all information exept the part you choose yourself shall be non public. There would be more interactions between humans this way and the human mind would be more mysterious and willing to explore new things, like it should be.

The following fields of research must be owned by the government and every study shall be voted upon before further work by citizens of the society;

- Genetic engineering; animals, humans, crops
- Geo engineering.
- Cloning; animals, humans
- Cognitive science; cognitive enhancement, mapping of the brain.
- Space exploration.
- Probably more:/ come with suggestions..

Aletheia will also ban the subliminal and behavioral changing aspects of public relations and marketing. Humans should only decide something based on their own head whiteout any influences based on profitable agendas.

Full transparity is important to integrate the citizens in the striving of the human race. We need to be informed of the real situation to feel the urge of improvment, to feel we are a part of something bigger and more important. This is also the factor that's going to change the idea of money from something to strive for, something you need - to something that is necessary. In Aletheia the soul idea of money have to represent a mean of convenience. We need it for transactions to be easier but we could do without it.

Your salary shall be equal to the amount of work hours you put in. The salary gap between professions and titles within companies shall be drastically tightened. There shall also be a max ceiling on what a vd, boss and employee can earn in a particular field of work.

Capitalists will say that there no longer is a initiative to work harder, grow or start something new. But there is, instead of having money as a reward and the illusion of wealth you will have gratitude. If you accomplish something that will make society better you will be giving more chances to pursue your own goals within your company and the society will know about your accomplishment through the media. Another psychological aspect is the feeling of belonging and having a more comparable wealth among citizens will enhance that.

The law of limitations on profit and wealth of companies will result in more companies and this will eventually lead to more ideas, closer personal connections and a better and more fast growing society. The same logic goes for citizens, the more people having the ability to pursue their ideas and personal goals, the better the human race will be, and become.

The transition between Aletheia and the society we are living in now have to happen gradually. When a max limit has been set in the world for both companies and individuals the society needs time to adapt. A reasonable time for this to happen should be three years for individuals, with gradual lowering of income. Companies will have more time to adapt, and every case will be evaluated based on the market and situation. If a company earns more than the limit and if the market allows a new branch a new company will be started.
The competition for money, growth and power between companies will be swapper for pride and the hunt of success for the human race.

We need a few global agreements for Aletheia to function, these are some of them (feel free to contribute):

1) Governments need to be more observed/evaluated by objective institutes to ensure full transparency.

2) The government/politicians/committees have to be fluid, one person can’t be in a position for ten years. This is done because we want new ideas and hinder the possibility of bribery. It should be a privilege to work within the government.

3) The salary for officials/politicians/committee shall be equal to vice directors or bosses of companies and they should not be a goal for a good income.

4) Ceilings for income in different professions and fields.

5) A maximum ceiling on wealth for a company.

6) A maximum ceiling on wealth for a individual

7) All the excess wealth shall be be transferred to the government.

8) There has to be a global committee that evaluates each country and makes sure the human race reach our next democratic goal.

9) There has to be global voting system regarding important matters.

10) All patents have to be open for the public.

11) Companies that is deemed ”bad” for the new society will be terminated and the employees will be given new jobs.

12) Full transparency in all aspects except personal information.

13) The gradual reduction of military forces aimed at conflicts on earth.
The employees shall be given new jobs in a different field and the equipment shall be converted into better means.

14) Strict laws against gangs/maffia and secret organizations must be enforced. There shall be a global plan for the disappearance of this problem. (10 years?)

15) Corruption, murder, tax freud, affiliated with a gang, shall be considered equal when convicted. The amount of years must be great to deter future people from doing it. (20 years?) All other crimes should be as they are today or logically based and voted upon by the citizens.

16) Both alcohol and drugs shall be legal. And their symptoms and effect shall be well taught. This is one things that will lead to the fast disappearance of gangs, corruption and criminal networks. You shall be allowed to buy a certain amount and use it how you like. But if you are influenced when committing a crime, or in public (to some extent) the punishment will be a lot worse. You also have to deal with your job based on what is stated in your employment agreement. If you behave badly when influenced in public or at work, you can lose this privilege.

17) A country's wealth need to be based on the amounts of people living there, their natural resources and the overall situation.

18) When a country have reached it's goals and they have money to spare, Aletheia will help other countries to complete their goals. The global goal (within a certain time) shall be to exterminate homelessness, poverty, hunger and criminal activity, so we as a species can reach our next evolutional step.

19) All information regarding our world, history, religion, inventions and so forth shall be uploaded to a "world database" This database will function as a arc of knowledge available for all citizen on earth.

To keep the society growing and to inflict the feelings of passion and belonging there will be at least one big competition each year. This competition will involve every countrie and it will contain the worlds most important challenges at the moment. Competitions will be a great way of creating excitement, laughter, belonging and creativity. On top of the global competitions each country will arrange their own based on their present challenges and goals.

Through our history as a species vast parts of our legacy has been kept from us to benefit certain people but after Aletheia has been call upon the citizens of this world will know the total truth. This problem will be dealt with in the same way as companies, it will change gradually so people can take in and analyze our contradictory and unbelievable past. In 10 years all the availably information shall be located in the "world database"

The reason behind this post is to tickle the mind regarding a new kind of society, a society you would want yourself and others to live in. This society should represent: love, transparency, security, opportunity and growth.

Feel free to comment on the society and please enrich this idea with better solutions or approaches to improve it.

a reply to: Crowdpsychology

I agree with this plan.

I have suggested all of these things. And it's honestly what the whole of the Earth needs.

Why use money at all? Why not let resources be free as they naturally are (water, fruits, wood/trees). Instead of having countries divided by imagined borders ? Why not just see everyone as "human" and the nation as "Earth"?

This will inspire unity and help people to see the reality that we are just human beings
sharing this planet together.

The rule of war is "divide and conquer" (divide and dominate others).

So the rule of peace must be "unite with acceptance" (unity / respect each others free-will).

a reply to: arpgme

There has to be a transition to a resource based economy.

People arn't going to give up the idea of money just yet.

a reply to: arpgme

Humans are given time to fix their own problems, Or their problems will be fixed for them by force.

Right now we are observing the transition of electrical power and technology with the advancements in Societies collective consiousness.

It is a transition that is rough not smooth. Humans struggle the most out of this because we are the ones physically dying and struggling with technology and philosphy.

But if we veer to far from the track make no mistake we will be realigned by force. If aliens were to raign over this planet tomorrow a resource based economy would develop almost instantly. I believe in some way. The system we live in the present is being preserved the way it is as to allow a maximum acceptance of this new system that will either come from us directly through influence with E.T or by E.T enforcing it upon us. I believe secret societies are waiting for the avatar that will direct first contact for all of humanity and chaparon humanity and E.T to make the transition seemless. This is where the messiah story would of originated from if that is the case.

It may very well be the case we are being prepared for something many of us would find unfathomable. And we are simply expericing the worst of the worst to remain as lessons of conciquences once we reach beyond the level of testing and growing into the space faring species we should be.

a reply to: Crowdpsychology

We need a few global agreements for Aletheia to function, these are some of them (feel free to contribute):

At least you are up front about pimping One World Government.

1) Governments need to be more observed/evaluated by objective institutes to ensure full transparency.

And who observers the observers?

2) The government/politicians/committees have to be fluid, one person can’t be in a position for ten years. This is done because we want new ideas and hinder the possibility of bribery. It should be a privilege to work within the government.

If they know they only have ten years, they will grab as much as they can as fast as they can.

3) The salary for officials/politicians/committee shall be equal to vice directors or bosses of companies and they should not be a goal for a good income.

"Should not" is not "would not." See below.

4) Ceilings for income in different professions and fields.

And who determines these ceilings? The officials/politicians/committees who know that they are setting their own salaries as they do this.

5) A maximum ceiling on wealth for a company.

Leading to the creation of shell companies and other workarounds.

6) A maximum ceiling on wealth for a individual

You yourself have admitted that this would remove incentive. Gratitude doesn't buy a sailboat.

7) All the excess wealth shall be be transferred to the government.

In other words, the government can set an arbitrary cap on wealth in order to seize private property. You realize this has been tried before, with unpleasant results.

8) There has to be a global committee that evaluates each country and makes sure the human race reach our next democratic goal.

I see no evidence of democratic goals in this world of yours!

9) There has to be global voting system regarding important matters.

The importance of matters being determined by...?

10) All patents have to be open for the public.

Then they are not patents! What you mean to say is that all intellectual property belongs to the State. That, too, has been tried.

11) Companies that is deemed ”bad” for the new society will be terminated and the employees will be given new jobs.

New jobs? Where? All the companies that could employ people have been robbed of their wealth. Oh well, there's always room on the collective farms.

12) Full transparency in all aspects except personal information.

A politician's wealth would be very personal information, certainly.

13) The gradual reduction of military forces aimed at conflicts on earth. The employees shall be given new jobs in a different field and the equipment shall be converted into better means.

This means that all conflicts would need to be resolved first. I suppose if people can't cooperate, they can be liquidated, right?

14) Strict laws against gangs/maffia and secret organizations must be enforced. There shall be a global plan for the disappearance of this problem. (10 years?)

Who defines what a " gang" is?

15) Corruption, murder, tax freud, affiliated with a gang, shall be considered equal when convicted. The amount of years must be great to deter future people from doing it. (20 years?) All other crimes should be as they are today or logically based and voted upon by the citizens.

Again, who determines what the laws are?

16) Both alcohol and drugs shall be legal. And their symptoms and effect shall be well taught. This is one things that will lead to the fast disappearance of gangs, corruption and criminal networks. You shall be allowed to buy a certain amount and use it how you like. But if you are influenced when committing a crime, or in public (to some extent) the punishment will be a lot worse. You also have to deal with your job based on what is stated in your employment agreement. If you behave badly when influenced in public or at work, you can lose this privilege.

I see you regard everything as a privledge, not a right.

17) A country's wealth need to be based on the amounts of people living there, their natural resources and the overall situation.

That is the situation now! Too bad that poor countries tend to have a large population.

18) When a country have reached it's goals and they have money to spare, Aletheia will help other countries to complete their goals. The global goal (within a certain time) shall be to exterminate homelessness, poverty, hunger and criminal activity, so we as a species can reach our next evolutional step.

Which is?

19) All information regarding our world, history, religion, inventions and so forth shall be uploaded to a "world database" This database will function as a arc of knowledge available for all citizen on earth.

In other words, one centrally controlled " official story." Would anyone really want to live in your world?

a reply to: arpgme

"Why use money at all? Why not let resources be free as they naturally are (water, fruits, wood/trees). Instead of having countries divided by imagined borders ? Why not just see everyone as "human" and the nation as "Earth"?"

I believe that currency is greatly important to ensure a smooth transition between our society and Aletheia. Money is also s very convenient form of payment. Its hard to swap fruits for a chicken if the other person doesn’t like fruits, and you cant really take a cow or a wooden log on a plane when going on a vacation. I think money is important for a global society to function and strive.

I also believe keeping borders and countries intact are important for our society to achieve this new transformation. We as different people of this earth have different backgrounds and traditions and we need these parts to keep the human legacy alive.

Im all for the "unite with acceptance” "respect each others and free-will" aspects, but for us humans to achieve future goals we need global guidelines. Free-will work to some extent and should be encouraged as much as possible. But Aletheia shall mainly be based on logical laws voted upon by the committees and society of this earth.

Another aspect that will inspire unity is the transparent society Aletheia will uphold, as well as all the historical knowledge which previously has been kept from us.

a reply to: Crowdpsychology

Im all for the "unite with acceptance” "respect each others and free-will" aspects, but for us humans to achieve future goals we need global guidelines. Free-will work to some extent and should be encouraged as much as possible. But Aletheia shall mainly be based on logical laws voted upon by the committees and society of this earth.

Yes, "free will" would definitely interfere with your Committee's ability to impose its agenda on the world.

Another aspect that will inspire unity is the transparent society Aletheia will uphold, as well as all the historical knowledge which previously has been kept from us.

Yes, you will need to invent an entire new history for the world to believe in, as other Leaders have in the past.

a reply to: Crowdpsychology

And forcing them to use money will protect their native cultures/traditions?

And voting doesn't work with money, corperations/business groups always find a way to buy multiple parties to control and take the freedom away from the people.

originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: Crowdpsychology

And forcing them to use money will protect their native cultures/traditions?

And voting doesn't work with money, corperations/business groups always find a way to buy multiple parties to control and take the freedom away from the people.

Forcing them to use money is the least of his dictatorial demands!

The amount of ignorance and absence of intelligence in DJW001 comments sure is a bottomless pit. I hope this behavior will do you good in life. Like I said before, feel free to comment and especially come with your own ideas. But please base your questions on knowledge and logic instead of silly assumptions based on nothing but your own shattered mind.

The bottom line is, don't make any comment before reading and fully understanding my first two posts.

a reply to: arpgme

I dont understand why you use the word forcing, when we already is using money as the prime way of payment. But If you feel like money is such a bad thing, please comment on the things I replied you with before:

"Money is also s very convenient form of payment. Its hard to swap fruits for a chicken if the other person doesn’t like fruits, and you cant really take a cow or a wooden log on a plane when going on a vacation"

Do you really believe that going from our current society to Aletheia would be possible if we took away currencies all together and started swapping fruits around the world? Should people get paid in logs and stones?

"And voting doesn't work with money, corperations/business groups always find a way to buy multiple parties to control and take the freedom away from the people"

If the laws provided is strong enough to deter people from secret organizations, clandestine deals, corruption and the punishment for these crimes would be formidable, it would surely work. The fact of the matter is, your statement or idea wouldn't work with that mindset either - they would only use gold instead of paper money. So you see, its not the currency itself, its rather the laws and transparency that will make this possible.

The aim of this thread is not to challenge each other and compare beaks to see who’s coming out short. This thread is about collectively providing ideas, structures and improvements to the society of Aletheia. If you believe that any of the things mentioned regarding Aletheia is wrong or could be made better and you want to comment on it, you have to provide a better solution of the situation or problem according to your own belief. You are not allowed to solely remark information already stated regarding the society. If the majority believe your improvements regarding the society is better, they will replace the old solutions. New improvements of problems or situations not yet mentioned will also be be added to Aletheia as long as they are supported by the majority and follow the main cornerstones of Aletheia which are; Love, Transparency, Security, Opportunity, Growth.

Please respect this.

originally posted by: Crowdpsychology
The amount of ignorance and absence of intelligence in DJW001 comments sure is a bottomless pit. I hope this behavior will do you good in life. Like I said before, feel free to comment and especially come with your own ideas. But please base your questions on knowledge and logic instead of silly assumptions based on nothing but your own shattered mind.

The bottom line is, don't make any comment before reading and fully understanding my first two posts.

Rather than engage the valid critiques I have made of your political philosophy, you attack me personally and imply I am somehow inferior. You treat your enemies in the same way your heroes did. Question for the floor: can anyone else identify what political philosophy Crowdpsychology is propounding here? Note that it involves planning by a small central committee that is empowered to seize private assets, arrogates itself the power to limit the rise of individuals, has global ambitions while enshrining the importance of "national cultures...." There are hints that there is a "hidden history" to be revealed, so it is both revolutionary and extremely traditional. Come on, anyone, what is that political system called? It has a name, you know.

a reply to: DJW001

Like I wrote in my previous comment, this is not a competition, I understand that you are a person that has to disprove other people solely so you can "win" the debate and feel good about yourself. But his thread isn’t about that, its not a contest regarding who is right and who is wrong. I'm sorry if you took my reply in a bad way, that was not my intention. But the questions you asked was mainly based on personal assumptions, hate and ignorance.

Some of your questions were indeed logical and understandable and Im going to reply them here. But before I do, remember this is nothing I am obligated to do this is rather something everybody in this thread should be a part of including yourself.

1) And who observers the observers?

People who work in these institutions will like the politicians be replaced after a certain time to reduce the risk of corruption and bribery. And also, who needs to observe anyone if everything regarding work is transparent and easily accessed by society?

2) If they know they only have ten years, they will grab as much as they can as fast as they can.

This is a very cynical point of view. You would maybe feel entitled to do so, but you would unfortunately not clear the job interview with that mindset after a psychological inspection. If a individual in fact do this, that individual will be greatly punished and all people of the society will know what he have done. The combination of ceiling of income and high penalty for these crime will together reduce if not eliminate the risk of this happening.

4) And who determines these ceilings? The officials/politicians/committees who know that they are setting their own salaries as they do this.

What is your solution to this, who will decide this and how will it work in whole?

If I may contribute, I think there should be global guidelines regarding salaries, and the society need time to adapt to these rules after they have been voted upon by society. I also believe that there should be a well executed evaluation surrounding which job is more important, dangerous, knowledgeable etc before the society votes, and this statistic should also in some form influence the ceiling. When the salary for different jobs is set they will be final (at least 10 years) and until this topic rises again. The politicians and committees will absolutely not set their own salaries and ceilings.

9) The importance of matters being determined by...?

The society.

15) Again, who determines what the laws are?

The society.

Yes, you will need to invent an entire new history for the world to believe in, as other Leaders have in the past.

Very ignorant and childish reply, but I will do my best to deepen this point.
Aletheia will merely collect All the information on this earth into a "world database" Including all the information from; secret orders, think tanks, libraries, museums, privately or state owned archives, etc..

a reply to: Crowdpsychology

I'm sorry if you took my reply in a bad way, that was not my intention. But the questions you asked was mainly based on personal assumptions, hate and ignorance.

How did you unintentionally accuse me of having a "shattered mind?" Hate and ignorance are also pretty unambiguous accusations. You use the words "love" and "reason" a lot, but I see no evidence of them in what you say.

Some of your questions were indeed logical and understandable and Im going to reply them here. But before I do, remember this is nothing I am obligated to do this is rather something everybody in this thread should be a part of including yourself.

Thank you for your condescension.

1) And who observers the observers?

People who work in these institutions will like the politicians be replaced after a certain time to reduce the risk of corruption and bribery. And also, who needs to observe anyone if everything regarding work is transparent and easily accessed by society?

How can there be transparency if personal information can be kept secret? One man's corruption is another man's personal information.

2) If they know they only have ten years, they will grab as much as they can as fast as they can.

This is a very cynical point of view. You would maybe feel entitled to do so, but you would unfortunately not clear the job interview with that mindset after a psychological inspection. If a individual in fact do this, that individual will be greatly punished and all people of the society will know what he have done. The combination of ceiling of income and high penalty for these crime will together reduce if not eliminate the risk of this happening.

It is not cynical, it is realistic. There is a reason why resource rich countries have high levels of poverty. As soon as an individual or junta achieves power, they salt away as much wealth as possible, so that when they are overthrown they can retire in comfort elsewhere. This is an obvious fact; implying that it is in my nature to be corrupt is an underhanded bullying technique unworthy of someone who claims to be rational and loving. Make a personal accusation like that again, and I will inform the Mods.

As for the job interview, who would give it? The administrator must be highly observant and above corruption him or her self. Who interviews the interviewers?

At least you are not trying to hide the fact that severe punishment is inherent in your loving little system, despite the fact that draconian punishments have never eliminated crime. If someone thinks they can conceal their corruption as "personal information," the thought of punishment will not stop them.

4) And who determines these ceilings? The officials/politicians/committees who know that they are setting their own salaries as they do this.

What is your solution to this, who will decide this and how will it work in whole?

In a free market economy, there are no caps. In practice, modern societies generally adapt progressive income taxes to dis-incentivize greed. In a Liberal Democracy, these tax rates are generally set by an elected, representative body. Since these representatives are generally wealthy, they are loathe to impose too great a burden on themselves, but the weight of popular opinion, which has the power either to renew their term or drive them from office, forces them to make some gesture in this direction. It is not a perfect system. No system is.

If I may contribute, I think there should be global guidelines regarding salaries, and the society need time to adapt to these rules after they have been voted upon by society. I also believe that there should be a well executed evaluation surrounding which job is more important, dangerous, knowledgeable etc before the society votes, and this statistic should also in some form influence the ceiling. When the salary for different jobs is set they will be final (at least 10 years) and until this topic rises again. The politicians and committees will absolutely not set their own salaries and ceilings.

Under a Free Market economy, wages are determined by negotiation between the laborers and the "consumers" of that labor. The consumer knows what value the task provides to them, and the laborer knows what reward they are willing to accept for providing this labor. Unpleasant tasks therefore pay better than pleasant task; tasks requiring higher skill and training pay higher than lower skilled tasks. This is much more efficient than deliberation by a committee. Trade unions have evolved to counterbalance the advantages that capital has in these negotiations.

9) The importance of matters being determined by...?

The society.

A vague, abstract word. Who is part of your society? Are people with "shattered minds" allowed to participate?

15) Again, who determines what the laws are?

The society.

Again, who determines who is or is not a member of society?

Yes, you will need to invent an entire new history for the world to believe in, as other Leaders have in the past.

Very ignorant and childish reply, but I will do my best to deepen this point.

I'll let this insult slide, but you have been warned.

Aletheia will merely collect All the information on this earth into a "world database" Including all the information from; secret orders, think tanks, libraries, museums, privately or state owned archives, etc..

Even if this information includes "personal information?" If you make the Vatican Archives public, there may be information based on things told in the "sanctity of confession" that would embarrass perfectly upstanding individuals! And what use is to be made of all of this un-curated information? How are members of society to process it? Are the ravings of a group of occultists to be regarded as no different in kind from the data collected at CERN? Or would some form of organization be imposed upon it? Who would organize it?

We already have such a vast repository of conflicting and, often, incorrect or fabricated information; it is called the Internet. What skills do people need to make the best use of the internet? In your opinion, have people in general developed those skills? If not, how would you go about helping them to develop those skills? Or would you prefer them not to have those skills?

In order to further this discussion, allow me to ask the people who starred to OP to air their opinions on other quotations that reflect Crowdpsychology's political philosophy. If you agree with a quotation, star the post. Let's begin.