Are All Terrorists Muslims? It’s Not Even Close

a reply to: Kali74

An agreement won't come without a great loss of life.

a reply to: peck420

PLEBIANS is a sociological term associated with the Burgouis if you are a Commie. HE means the EVERYMAN.
WHICH I cannot claim to be as I am a warrior in heart and soul.

originally posted by: FlySolo
So how do you propose to solve it?

Vote in leadership that is more concerned with resolution than their pocket books.

Hell, a good start would be forcing the House of Saud to return Mecca to Islam.

Islam will always be at the behest of the extremists as long as the extremists control Islam's seat of power.

It would be no different for Christians if some crazies like the Westboro bunch controlled the Vatican.

a reply to: cavtrooper7
The term 'plebs' is far older than that.

Pleb(ian)s originates from Ancient Rome. It was used to describe every free Roman that was not patrician (ruling class).

a reply to: FlySolo

Well that right there tells me that the biggest threat we face isn't terrorism let alone Islamic terrorism but our own lack of logic and humanity.

Sigh

Another Muslim-apologist trying to excuse Islamic terrorism and paint Muslims as the true victims.

The fact is that there are currently 65 million Islamists out of the 1.2 billion Muslims on the Earth. This is a disproportionate amount of violent fanatics compared to other religions. People excuse Islamist terror attacks by saying "oh but the Westboro Baptist Church has fanatics too"...hmm a few hundred.. at best and I am not aware of any people that have been killed by one of their followers?

"But what about the KKK?" Last year more people were killed by terrorists in the name of Allah than in 50 years by the KKK.

If you don't understand the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist please I emplore you to look it up. Get educated because moderate Muslims are peaceful, civilized people.

Fact is that the Quran sanctions such violent acts and proposes death for apostates/moderate Muslims just as much as for non-Muslims.

I studied the Quran at College and yes, I have read it.

61% of the Quran is hate speech inciting violence against non-believers.

In fact apologists complain about the number of negative news stories about Islamic terror - this isn't even a quarter of the true statistics of people killed in the name of Allah: terror attacks are committed DAILY around the world and it is only through sites such as islamwatch.org jihadwatch.org etc that you can see a running list of terror attacks - the news simply isn't long enough to include a bite about the 3 people who were killed by a bomb in bagdad or two people shot to death in a synagogue we only hear about the hundreds of people killed in one act.

I wish I had the time right now to reread over this and fill in the points that I've missed. But ce la vie.

For all you Muslim apologists on here: No one important or credible denies that people other than Muslims can be terrorists. The point they we are trying to make that you are to blinded by your own ignorance to see is that right now, MUSLIM TERRORISTS are the biggest threat right now out of all of them. You cite a few abortion clinic bombings then try to tell everyone that is the exact same as ISIS objectifying women, publicly executing kids for watching a soccer game and beheading and crucifying their enemies, they are not the same, no matter how you want to try to twist it, a few unorganized bombings based on a belief half the country holds is not the same as an Organized, well funded group cutting peoples heads off ritualistically with dull hunting knives and putting guns in the hands of a child to execute men who got no due process.

If you think these are the same thing you are completely lost and I will no longer debate this. The world is a broken car, ISIS is a bad head gasket and other terrorist groups are dents and scratches.

You would rather have the dents buffed and spend your money on a new paint job than fix the gasket just so everyone think a your car looks good (religiously tolerant diverse utopia!!!!)

The variables keeping Islamic terrorism alive and growing:

1). Proxy wars in the Middle East meant to destabilize the Iran, Russia and China nexus
2). Western support of Arab dictatorships because of oil and military alliances
3). Lack of knowledge about geo-political issues by the mainstream media and public
4). The silence of Muslim countries
5). Racism, social segregation and the ghosts of colonialism

a reply to: Mehmet666Heineken

COLONIALISM that is A DEAD giveaway there...

All muslim governments hate Israel.Not all muslims are terrorist.A lot of muslim governments hate jews and hate the U.S.Once again not all muslims are terrorist.All muslim governments hate anyone who supports Jews or Israel.They hate Canada and Great Britian.They hate Australia and many others who support Israel.
Now ask yourself what is realy going on here?

a reply to: Jobeycool

A bunch of posters HATE the military and love Obama.



AT a guess.

originally posted by: Jobeycool
All muslim governments hate Israel.Not all muslims are terrorist.A lot of muslim governments hate jews and hate the U.S.Once again not all muslims are terrorist.All muslim governments hate anyone who supports Jews or Israel.They hate Canada and Great Britian.They hate Australia and many others who support Israel.
Now ask yourself what is realy going on here?

Most of those "Mooslum" governments have oil and are in power because of the West. Go get a degree before spewing spewage.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I want you to answer this question I asked.

You do realize that everything in world works like dominos hinged around the ME right? What do you think the end game is for ISIL? Are ok with the the 'old Iraq' middle east region becoming new state to welcome aboard global affairs with its own economy and military? Think they would stop there?

Why does it matter what they are ok with or content with? It's all about ability. Do they actually have the ABILITY to expand outside of their region. Right now, all they can do is exist in destabilized countries. That have demonstrated ZERO ability to expand outside of these areas. So I don't really care what they WANT to do. I care about what they are ABLE to do.

originally posted by: StalkerSolent
What? Do you have any evidence or reason to believe this? (Where I am in the US) Christians aren't safe from criticism–in fact, they constantly complain about being unfairly attacked by the media. In fact, at least one of the Christian media organizations in the United States, WORLD Magazine, actually aggressively investigates wrongdoing by Christian organizations for the purposes of holding them accountable. (I happen to be familiar with them, it might or might not common among Christian media at large–I really don't know.) I'd hardly say the media is sweeping stuff under the rug.

It certainly isn't getting the same amount of coverage as Muslim terrorism is.

Now I think THIS makes some sense. I'm not saying we shouldn't defend ourselves, but I'm fairly confident that part of the problem to begin with was European (and later American) intervention in the affairs of Islamic nations around the world. I'm also fairly confident that continuing to intervene will not make things better.

Correct, western violence in the middle east is the terrorists best recruitment strategy. We fuel the war on terrorism by blowing them up.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

Who knows? I'm just trying to even the playing field here and show that most Islamophobic rhetoric is just that, rhetoric.

Now here is a classic case of protesting to much.

How in the *&^% are you going to even the playing field? How could anyone that could do basic math even up the score on this one?

Are you going to compare one crazy "army of god" nut running lose in the woods to thousands of Islamo butchers? Thats not evening up thats stretching things thin to the point of hilarity.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I want you to answer this question I asked.

You do realize that everything in world works like dominos hinged around the ME right? What do you think the end game is for ISIL? Are ok with the the 'old Iraq' middle east region becoming new state to welcome aboard global affairs with its own economy and military? Think they would stop there?

Why does it matter what they are ok with or content with? It's all about ability. Do they actually have the ABILITY to expand outside of their region. Right now, all they can do is exist in destabilized countries. That have demonstrated ZERO ability to expand outside of these areas. So I don't really care what they WANT to do. I care about what they are ABLE to do.

What we are seeing here is the eye of the hurricane inversed with the torrent in the center.

I fully applaud this thread as it is frankly about time we ended the hatred. Apart from anything, the hatred is what people from the extremist elements (whichever denomination) actually want.

And really, who cares about people's religious beliefs? The important aspects to a person are their character and how they carry themselves in society. Whichever deity they may or may not worship should be completely irrelevent.

As to the denominations, hell you even get Buddhist terrorists (Myanmar). Not really sure how that works but they exist!

I fully applaud this thread as it is frankly about time we ended the hatred. Apart from anything, the hatred is what people from the extremist elements (whichever denomination) actually want.

And really, who cares about people's religious beliefs? The important aspects to a person are their character and how they carry themselves in society. Whichever deity they may or may not worship should be completely irrelevent.

As to the denominations, hell you even get Buddhist terrorists (Myanmar). Not really sure how that works but they exist!

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

Who knows? I'm just trying to even the playing field here and show that most Islamophobic rhetoric is just that, rhetoric.

Now here is a classic case of protesting to much.

How in the *&^% are you going to even the playing field? How could anyone that could do basic math even up the score on this one?

Are you going to compare one crazy "army of god" nut running lose in the woods to thousands of Islamo butchers? Thats not evening up thats stretching things thin to the point of hilarity.

No I'm comparing all the xenophobic nuts saying that Muslim is the religion of evil and all Muslims are terrorists to the reality that only a small minority are fundamentalists. But if we are talking about score. America and the west of have killed FAR more innocent civilians than the terrorists have with our drone bombings and military occupations. So how about that scoreboard?

a reply to: Logarock

If you say so. Good thing they can't do anything outside of those destabilized countries. You can scream and cry all you want, but at the end of the day, that is the truth. ISIS is just a regional threat and despite all their grandstanding and posturing, they will ALWAYS be a regional threat. That is unless you think a group of crazies with small arms can take on the 1st world and all its technology head on.